Retail videos of Run and Shoot or Triple Option?

[stylee]

That is, video of the retail copy of the game featuring either offense.

If this is not the place to ask this, I'll be glad to take it down.

[ElroyJetson]

Re: Retail videos of Run and Shoot or Triple Option?

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...tsgameguy.html


CHECK THERE

[Dr Death]

Re: Retail videos of Run and Shoot or Triple Option?

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...tsgameguy.html


CHECK THERE

Whilst I'm sure some people appreciate the link, there is nothing in that link related to the Run & Shoot. Not one video or screen shot. I really am amazed that EA has as their tag line 120 Ways To Win and yet they don't produce any blogs on the Run & Shoot or Air Raid offenses.

Anyone who has the game and can produce some photos or videos of the Run & Shoot there are a lot of people who would sincerely appreciate it. Some screens of the SMU playbook would be really nice.

[ElroyJetson]

Re: Retail videos of Run and Shoot or Triple Option?

Whilst I'm sure some people appreciate the link, there is nothing in that link related to the Run & Shoot. Not one video or screen shot. I really am amazed that EA has as their tag line 120 Ways To Win and yet they don't produce any blogs on the Run & Shoot or Air Raid offenses.

Anyone who has the game and can produce some photos or videos of the Run & Shoot there are a lot of people who would sincerely appreciate it. Some screens of the SMU playbook would be really nice.

My fault I thought there were some run and shoot video's in there. My apologies

[Dr Death]

Re: Retail videos of Run and Shoot or Triple Option?

My fault I thought there were some run and shoot video's in there. My apologies

It isn't your fault. I just wanted to make sure others looking for R&S info didn't go through all the vids and screens like I did. Damn EA... damn!

[TheRunAndShoot]

Re: Retail videos of Run and Shoot or Triple Option?

It isn't your fault. I just wanted to make sure others looking for R&S info didn't go through all the vids and screens like I did. Damn EA... damn!

It shouldn't have come as a surprise. There's really only one team running an effective RnS. Hawaii is struggling though hopefully Rolo and Mouse can bring it back, while I would have loved an accurate RnS I wasn't expecting EA to make an accurate playbook and play style that less than 2% of teams actually use. From what I've read the RnS book isn't much different than the NE or NO playbook in madden, or a slightly updated Hawaii book from last year.

One day, we'll get are playbook. Hopefully 2k steps back into the fold or custom plays/playbooks become available.

[wingowango]

Re: Retail videos of Run and Shoot or Triple Option?

It shouldn't have come as a surprise. There's really only one team running an effective RnS. Hawaii is struggling though hopefully Rolo and Mouse can bring it back, while I would have loved an accurate RnS I wasn't expecting EA to make an accurate playbook and play style that less than 2% of teams actually use. From what I've read the RnS book isn't much different than the NE or NO playbook in madden, or a slightly updated Hawaii book from last year.

One day, we'll get are playbook. Hopefully 2k steps back into the fold or custom plays/playbooks become available.

don't worry, they messed up the Malzahn playbook too. It really isn't much different than any other spread out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjoq6jN5Ej8

[Dr Death]

Re: Retail videos of Run and Shoot or Triple Option?

while I would have loved an accurate RnS I wasn't expecting EA to make an accurate playbook and play style that less than 2% of teams actually use.

What bothers me though is they tout the R&S in their 120 Ways To Win then they give us nothing on the offense. One screen w/ 3 plays... that's it. I don't know if it's accurate or not because I haven't seen anything on it.

If ANYONE has any R&S info you can direct me to please PM me. Reading material or video of the R&S in NCAA 11 is what I am looking for. Much thanks.

[stylee]

Re: Retail videos of Run and Shoot or Triple Option?

I'd really love to have Switch in. I *believe* it was in the Option playbook off of playaction last year, but I don't think either Switch-er had an option route.

I have my doubts though.

The Paul Johnson Spread Option is a run and shoot descendent. The base formations are identical (at least the current "flexbone" and the original run and shoot are).

[TheRunAndShoot]

Re: Retail videos of Run and Shoot or Triple Option?

What bothers me though is they tout the R&S in their 120 Ways To Win then they give us nothing on the offense. One screen w/ 3 plays... that's it. I don't know if it's accurate or not because I haven't seen anything on it.

If ANYONE has any R&S info you can direct me to please PM me. Reading material or video of the R&S in NCAA 11 is what I am looking for. Much thanks.

For 99.9% of college football fans the RnS is just a pass happy offense. So when they play an SMU or a UH as long as the balls always in the air it will seem legit. I can't say I'm not surprised by a somewhat misleading marketing phrase the EAs using so I'm not completely broken up.

Odogg in the impressions thread had a dynasty with Hawaii and he said that the RnS was basically just shotgun passes. Nothing more. I'm not sure if he knows as much about it as me, and I'm sure he doesn't know as much as you. But I think it's safe to say that you're gonna be disappointed by the playbook this year and unless SMU upsets TCU or UH upsets USC or Boise I don't see a true RnS playbook happening. The triple option would have never been revised last year had G Tech not upset Florida

[Dr Death]

Re: Retail videos of Run and Shoot or Triple Option?

For 99.9% of college football fans the RnS is just a pass happy offense. So when they play an SMU or a UH as long as the balls always in the air it will seem legit. I can't say I'm not surprised by a somewhat misleading marketing phrase the EAs using so I'm not completely broken up.

Odogg in the impressions thread had a dynasty with Hawaii and he said that the RnS was basically just shotgun passes. Nothing more. I'm not sure if he knows as much about it as me, and I'm sure he doesn't know as much as you. But I think it's safe to say that you're gonna be disappointed by the playbook this year and unless SMU upsets TCU or UH upsets USC or Boise I don't see a true RnS playbook happening. The triple option would have never been revised last year had G Tech not upset Florida

Thanks. I must have missed ODogg's post. I typically read everything he posts too, so I don't know how I missed that. I was worried when I saw the initial video for 120 Ways To Win and they said... the Run & Shoot is old school. This is for those guys who want to pass 50 or 60 times a game...

Uh... no. Passing 50 or 60 times a game does not define the R&S. Having legitimate Option Routes defines the R&S. Having the Shovel Pass in defines the R&S. {Something that has been confirmed to NOT be in, by the way}

Having a QB and WR's w/ high awareness adjusting on the fly to what the defense does defines the R&S. Right now I am just very frustrated. But I will make it my goal to get this thing properly implemented in the game including the Shovel Pass.

It may be that only a few teams use this or aspects of it, but there are tons of gamers who want to use it.

[RamblinWreck21]

Re: Retail videos of Run and Shoot or Triple Option?

For 99.9% of college football fans the RnS is just a pass happy offense. So when they play an SMU or a UH as long as the balls always in the air it will seem legit. I can't say I'm not surprised by a somewhat misleading marketing phrase the EAs using so I'm not completely broken up.

Odogg in the impressions thread had a dynasty with Hawaii and he said that the RnS was basically just shotgun passes. Nothing more. I'm not sure if he knows as much about it as me, and I'm sure he doesn't know as much as you. But I think it's safe to say that you're gonna be disappointed by the playbook this year and unless SMU upsets TCU or UH upsets USC or Boise I don't see a true RnS playbook happening. The triple option would have never been revised last year had G Tech not upset Florida

What? We haven't played Florida since like the 70's. And if you mean FSU, we were ranked ahead of them, so I don't see how thats an upset.

[Card-me]

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I may be crazy, but I thought I saw a shovel pass play in a previous game. Was it in the previous gen versions of NCAA? Or did I see it in APF 2k8? I honestly don't remember, but I thought I saw it in a previous NCAA game.

[Dr Death]

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I may be crazy, but I thought I saw a shovel pass play in a previous game. Was it in the previous gen versions of NCAA? Or did I see it in APF 2k8? I honestly don't remember, but I thought I saw it in a previous NCAA game.

It was in 2K5 so you probably saw it in 2K8.

[Juice Malone]

Re: Retail videos of Run and Shoot or Triple Option?

I may be crazy, but I thought I saw a shovel pass play in a previous game. Was it in the previous gen versions of NCAA? Or did I see it in APF 2k8? I honestly don't remember, but I thought I saw it in a previous NCAA game.

It can be done I dont remember if it was this gen or last gen, but it's buggy. You do it by hitting the pitch button with an eligible reciever close in front of you. I started messing with it when I was playing as Navy. I had a bad recruiting year and my QB's speed was under 80 and my backs were very fast. They would end up running ahead of my qb on option plays often I would pitch it to them and the qb and rbs would get passing/recieving yards.

That got me thinking and I decided to try a real shovel pass by picking pass plays where the RB does one of those really short comeback routes right up the middle. I hit the pitch button and it worked. However I could never do it with any success. There were times when the QB would just pitch it backwards to no one and fumble and sometimes he wouldn't pitch it. You have to come up pretty close to the LOS, but then you risk getting sacked alot.

EA could implement it by making the pitch button a shovel pass button on pass plays form behind the line of scrimmage (would go back to normal pitch if you ran past LOS).