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  • at23steelers
    Pro
    • Dec 2009
    • 950

    #106
    Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

    Originally posted by K_GUN
    i get it too...but as a beloved bills fan..how can i possibly run a franchise with those ratings...eric wood a 47?

    side note....i've noticed when u play teams in play now mode they have TEAM OVR in the 60s/70s but when u launch a franchise all the TEAM OVR get bunched closer together...why is this?
    I am pretty sure that the play now, is what the teams "should" be rated in real life, while the franchise is the actual average of the players ratings.
    Have an awesome day!!

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    • K_GUN
      C*t*z*n *f RSN
      • Jul 2002
      • 3891

      #107
      Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

      Originally posted by DCEBB2001
      Eric Wood is rated a 47 because he broke his leg in 2 places on NOV 22nd. Injuries will knock a player down significantly.
      makes sense...do u guys know how each rating affects gameplay

      like impact blocking?.........(I don't---just curious)
      Bummed that you're not on my ignore list yet?.....Don't worry, I'm sure you will be very soon.

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      • DCEBB2001
        MVP
        • Nov 2008
        • 2569

        #108
        Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

        Originally posted by K_GUN
        makes sense...do u guys know how each rating affects gameplay

        like impact blocking?.........(I don't---just curious)
        Impact blocking is the blockers ability to make a leveling impact block on an opposing defender.
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        • Playmakers
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2004
          • 15411

          #109
          Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

          Originally posted by DCEBB2001
          I do not think so...but I never play online so I don't know for sure. But I do know that we will be producing roster files at some point as well as launching an NCAA site that rates NCAA players as well.
          Wow!

          I love rating players in NCAA football....in fact I've been rating players in NCAA football for the past 4 years.

          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...i-rosters.html

          If this site does happen let me know because I think I can help you out big time with the ratings as you'll see from all of my NCAA Roster work. I've always wanted to find a site that dedicates itself to player ratings in NCAA football.
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          • DCEBB2001
            MVP
            • Nov 2008
            • 2569

            #110
            Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

            Originally posted by Playmakers
            Wow!

            I love rating players in NCAA football....in fact I've been rating players in NCAA football for the past 4 years.

            http://www.operationsports.com/forum...i-rosters.html

            If this site does happen let me know because I think I can help you out big time with the ratings as you'll see from all of my NCAA Roster work. I've always wanted to find a site that dedicates itself to player ratings in NCAA football.
            I think we would need more help with the roster creation aspect for both the Madden and NCAA games. Well, Madden isn't too bad, but NCAA would be a HUGE project to create all the ratings as required in the game. We would need to figure out all the player calculations too. It's not even a sure bet we will launch one because of the shear size of the project. That type of database would be much larger than the one we have for Madden currently, and that has over 17000 players in it.
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            • Playmakers
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2004
              • 15411

              #111
              Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

              Originally posted by DCEBB2001
              I think we would need more help with the roster creation aspect for both the Madden and NCAA games. Well, Madden isn't too bad, but NCAA would be a HUGE project to create all the ratings as required in the game. We would need to figure out all the player calculations too. It's not even a sure bet we will launch one because of the shear size of the project. That type of database would be much larger than the one we have for Madden currently, and that has over 17000 players in it.
              You got to trust me if your really looking to work on player ratings in NCAA football down the road/in the future not only me but I know about 2-3 other guys that can be really helpful to you.

              These are guys like myself that has studied these ratings and had great success utilizing them in creating their own rosters.

              Now of course it's not easy to rate 17000 players in College football but the goal would be to make the ratings more accurate than what EA releases every year right?

              So naturally your not going to get every single guy rated correctly but I'm pretty sure if your serious about it me and few other guys can help you out do EA with their default ratings.......

              Here's a thread of one of the guys I'm refering to.....
              I want to use real statistics, and comparing them to current players, to create historical players in NCAA 11. Now, obviously, this has a few limitations. You can only reasonably do this with recent years. Even Joe Montana, who is relatively recent, took a career to put up the numbers that Brady Quinn put up every season. However, you can possibly/reasonably work around this by using averages rather than totals. Still a limitation, but hopefully not a significant one. What are you


              The guy knows his shiiiit and me and him discuss ratings all time back forth although it's mostly dealing with our own idividual rosters.....but i think i'll knowledge of the ratings and how implement them to the individual players is something that could benefit you if you decide to do something like this as you've done for Madden Footabll.
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              • DCEBB2001
                MVP
                • Nov 2008
                • 2569

                #112
                Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                Originally posted by Playmakers
                You got to trust me if your really looking to work on player ratings in NCAA football down the road/in the future not only me but I know about 2-3 other guys that can be really helpful to you.

                These are guys like myself that has studied these ratings and had great success utilizing them in creating their own rosters.

                Now of course it's not easy to rate 17000 players in College football but the goal would be to make the ratings more accurate than what EA releases every year right?

                So naturally your not going to get every single guy rated correctly but I'm pretty sure if your serious about it me and few other guys can help you out do EA with their default ratings.......

                Here's a thread of one of the guys I'm refering to.....
                I want to use real statistics, and comparing them to current players, to create historical players in NCAA 11. Now, obviously, this has a few limitations. You can only reasonably do this with recent years. Even Joe Montana, who is relatively recent, took a career to put up the numbers that Brady Quinn put up every season. However, you can possibly/reasonably work around this by using averages rather than totals. Still a limitation, but hopefully not a significant one. What are you


                The guy knows his shiiiit and me and him discuss ratings all time back forth although it's mostly dealing with our own idividual rosters.....but i think i'll knowledge of the ratings and how implement them to the individual players is something that could benefit you if you decide to do something like this as you've done for Madden Footabll.
                The main issue I foresee with bringing new people on board is that we already have a system to rate players and it is very very different from what you guys have done according to the links you have provided. You guys have done some things that we do not do.

                First of all, your core ratings are not universal from position to position. At FBG, we make sure that a QB who ran a 4.40 40 yard dash will have the same speed as a CB who ran a 4.40 40 yard dash. You guys have different ratings based on position, which was deemed as a big problem with some of the ratings.

                Second, we have a system to rate the OVR for the NCAA players already in place that is compliant with how we rate our Madden players. Think about the NCAA ratings as simply a premature way to rate players that have not come into the NFL yet, but once upon graduation, can be simply moved to the Madden site.

                Third, we already have a guy who is well-qualified for the NCAA aspect of the ratings...if he finds the time and he knows the system we use inside and out. You would have to learn how we do things at FBG that set us apart from the guys at EA.

                So as you can see, it would be a bit more complicated in making a decision to bring you all aboard based on the issues that may arise.
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                • Ghu55
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                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2

                  #113
                  Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                  So does that mean you will be providing ncaa draft classes to prevent cpu/imported classes from being ridiculously over-rated?

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                  • DCEBB2001
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2569

                    #114
                    Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                    Originally posted by Ghu55
                    So does that mean you will be providing ncaa draft classes to prevent cpu/imported classes from being ridiculously over-rated?
                    If it is possible for us to create our own draft classes then we can most certainly try. However, if we are to get the players rated for Madden correctly (ie: best rookies being around 70 OVR in stead of 80) we would have to adjust the draft classes which I am not even sure is possible. With the old PC versions you could but I doubt you can on the consoles.
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                    • DCEBB2001
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                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2569

                      #115
                      Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                      I would just like to inform anyone who has been looking at the site that it is currently down. We are moving to some new servers in Texas, LA, and Chicago so it will be down for most of the day. It should be up again tonight or tomorrow.

                      I have also been working on updating some of the ratings for every player on current NFL rosters so you can have a look at how some of your players are rated in comparison to the ratings provided by EA.

                      Please note that these ratings were current as of late March, so many ratings in the 40s are for players who were just getting off of injuries. Rookies will also be very low for now, but will rise during training camps.

                      DB
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                      • Ghu55
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 2

                        #116
                        Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                        Ummm...whenever I click the link in the first post it sends me to the old website that says ratings were stopped in 2007...can you point me in the right direction?

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                        • DCEBB2001
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2569

                          #117
                          Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                          Originally posted by Ghu55
                          Ummm...whenever I click the link in the first post it sends me to the old website that says ratings were stopped in 2007...can you point me in the right direction?
                          If you would have read my last post you would see that the site is down as we are moving to new servers. I don't have a timetable yet, but it should be up within a week.
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                          • DCEBB2001
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                            • Nov 2008
                            • 2569

                            #118
                            Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                            The site should be up tonight guys. You will notice that I am now going team by team for the training camps. Right now AZ-CAR is complete along with GB. The rest will be filled out in the coming week. I will post again when the site is up so you all can check it out.
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                            • K_GUN
                              C*t*z*n *f RSN
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 3891

                              #119
                              Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                              not to be a ***** but...how are you planning to handle the man-made draft classes by EA?

                              all the re-rating in the world won't mean anything if year #2 of someone's franchise has EA's 'inflated' ratings in the mix with yours
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                              • DCEBB2001
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 2569

                                #120
                                Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                                Originally posted by K_GUN
                                not to be a ***** but...how are you planning to handle the man-made draft classes by EA?

                                all the re-rating in the world won't mean anything if year #2 of someone's franchise has EA's 'inflated' ratings in the mix with yours
                                I am not planning on doing anything about it because there is nothing that can be done. The only thing that can happen is if the site garners enough attention that EA recognizes it and makes changes as a result. It was a lot easier back in the day of PC gaming where you could edit your own draft classes, but we are stuck with their draft classes for now...unless someone knows how to edit them.
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