***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

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  • khaliib
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    • Jan 2005
    • 2884

    #1

    ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

    Using 2009 data from ESPN, this is to help set team's playbook pass/run ratio to mimmick (as much as possible) what team's do in real life.

    Note
    For those schools with new coach's, you can just use the % from the coach's last school.
    (Run = 100% - Pass Ratio)

    Hope this helps!!!
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  • Pass_The_Cows
    Rookie
    • Feb 2007
    • 411

    #2
    Re: ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

    Very nice, printing now so I'm ready for tomorrow night. Thanks

    EDIT: Damn, waste of ink. Hopefully the correct percentages will be available by Tuesday.
    Last edited by Pass_The_Cows; 07-11-2010, 10:26 AM.
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    • DakkoN
      All Star
      • Sep 2006
      • 5611

      #3
      Re: ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

      These stats are a little misleading. The % is how many yards of the team total yards were pass yards, not how much % they passed the ball.
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      • Bootzilla
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        • Jul 2002
        • 1433

        #4
        Re: ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

        I think you don't understand run/pass ratio. It is not based on how many yards were achieved. It's based upon percentage of pass plays called/ran vs running plays called/ran.

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        • leetdemon
          Banned
          • Jul 2003
          • 643

          #5
          Re: ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

          Originally posted by Bootzilla
          I think you don't understand run/pass ratio. It is not based on how many yards were achieved. It's based upon percentage of pass plays called/ran vs running plays called/ran.
          exactly,

          its how much they run vs how much they pass if a team is 60 pass 40 run

          it means they pass 60% of the time and run the other 40...this does not mean they are successful just that they will attempt.

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          • DakkoN
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            • Sep 2006
            • 5611

            #6
            Re: ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

            Originally posted by Bootzilla
            I think you don't understand run/pass ratio. It is not based on how many yards were achieved. It's based upon percentage of pass plays called/ran vs running plays called/ran.

            Exactly. And that's not what these stats reflect. These stats have what percentage the pass yards are of their total yards, NOT how much they will pass. So that's why these stats are wrong from what you'd enter into the game. They are not the same thing.

            So perhaps it's you that doesn't understand, since these stats in the .pdf file are showing what % of total yards are pass yards, which is NOT the same thing as pass ratio vs run ratio.
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            • ActLikeYouCrow
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              • Apr 2009
              • 1025

              #7
              Re: ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

              passing attempts and rushing attempts, then you need to subtract the number of sacks from the rushing attempts and add them to the passing attempts. thats how you get the truest percentage short of actually watching each play of the season

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              • Anaxamander
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                • Mar 2003
                • 2795

                #8
                Re: ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

                Originally posted by DakkoN
                Exactly. And that's not what these stats reflect. These stats have what percentage the pass yards are of their total yards, NOT how much they will pass. So that's why these stats are wrong from what you'd enter into the game. They are not the same thing.

                So perhaps it's you that doesn't understand, since these stats in the .pdf file are showing what % of total yards are pass yards, which is NOT the same thing as pass ratio vs run ratio.
                I think he was talking to the original poster.

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                • mgoblue678
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                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3371

                  #9
                  Re: ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

                  Speaking of the pass/run ratios does anybody know if they affect only the simmed games again this year? They used to affect both simmed and played games , but for some reason they changed it to only simmed games last year. I was hoping they would change it back to affecting played games as well.
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                  • khaliib
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                    • Jan 2005
                    • 2884

                    #10
                    Re: ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

                    I don't know what's up with folks now days. Everyone is trying to one-up the next person in intellect and post replies that turn simple threads into pages of junk. Unlike other sports, there are stats that can't be captured in football because of so many variables. Actual pass/run % is one of them withuout the coach's gameplan.

                    I actually looked at pages of stats and thought about using stat/calc to find expressed data, but it hit me! Why spend hours/days to get a measurable for a "Game Slider". It's a VIDEO GAME!!!

                    It's a simple way to "Try" and utilize the pass/run slider to mimmick teams as best as we can.

                    So relax guys, you don't have to one-up me or any other poster or turn threads into science projects.

                    If the info is something you might want to use, go for it.
                    If not, it's all good, just back out and go on to another thread.

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                    • ianlast
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 451

                      #11
                      Re: ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

                      Originally posted by khaliib
                      I don't know what's up with folks now days. Everyone is trying to one-up the next person in intellect and post replies that turn simple threads into pages of junk. Unlike other sports, there are stats that can't be captured in football because of so many variables. Actual pass/run % is one of them withuout the coach's gameplan.

                      I actually looked at pages of stats and thought about using stat/calc to find expressed data, but it hit me! Why spend hours/days to get a measurable for a "Game Slider". It's a VIDEO GAME!!!

                      It's a simple way to "Try" and utilize the pass/run slider to mimmick teams as best as we can.

                      So relax guys, you don't have to one-up me or any other poster or turn threads into science projects.

                      If the info is something you might want to use, go for it.
                      If not, it's all good, just back out and go on to another thread.
                      It's just constructive criticism, that's all. Your numbers are useful to some extent, but to say they are accurate run/pass ratios for each team is incorrect (which is what your thread title and OP would have lead many to believe).

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                      • khaliib
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                        • Jan 2005
                        • 2884

                        #12
                        Re: ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

                        No harm, no foul.

                        Just curious what you guys plan on using to determine the pass/run ratio's for each team if this method is not sufficient?

                        If you have an alternative to a suggestion, put pen to pad and post it in your reply. Don't just say something is wrong, show your alternative concept.

                        Nothing wrong with constructive criticism, but "don't show up to a potluck and criticize the food when the only thing you've brought to the table is your plate"!

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                        • Von Dozier
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                          • Apr 2006
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                          #13
                          Re: ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

                          Nice, I'll be using these.

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                          • Solidice
                            Guns Up!
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 9946

                            #14
                            Re: ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

                            Originally posted by khaliib
                            No harm, no foul.

                            Just curious what you guys plan on using to determine the pass/run ratio's for each team if this method is not sufficient?

                            If you have an alternative to a suggestion, put pen to pad and post it in your reply. Don't just say something is wrong, show your alternative concept.

                            Nothing wrong with constructive criticism, but "don't show up to a potluck and criticize the food when the only thing you've brought to the table is your plate"!
                            usually its' number of running plays and number of pass attempts. so take Texas Tech. based on ESPN, TTU had 669 pass attempt, ran the ball 319 times. now if you take account for sacks(31 total sacks), it's actually, 700 pass attempts, 288 carries.

                            thats 988 total offensive plays, that is roughly 71% pass.
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                            • khaliib
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                              • Jan 2005
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                              #15
                              Re: ***Team's Pass/Run Ratio***

                              Now that's what I'm talking about Solidice, bringing something to the table.

                              I was going to use that method, but saw how much time it would take to gather the data and do the calculations for all 120 teams and said forget it, just too much time/work for a slider

                              I like your spreadsheet. How come it's not posted as a locked thread?
                              It has alot of useful information.

                              Hope you don't mind, but I'm jackin your spreadsheet :P

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