Dump' N' Cheese: Shady Morals in EASHL

[milesizdead]

Yup, new tuners help a lot.
The one in January practically removed the toedrag, or at least made it a lot less efficient...

[catcatch22]

The best is whenever you're up a couple goals, times tickin' down, things are looking good. Then, all a sudden a pause, whats this? Ok, nobody press A! Then sure enough time runs out and you're players are freezing at the faceoff circle... Loop glitch ftw!!! My team has been screwed out of so many big wins from this kinda crap its absurd. It amazes me that this has been an issue since 08, yet its still an epidemic. Nothings more demoralizing then putting a strong team effort to take out a top 10 team, then have it be all for naught..

Hey to avoid the pause face off loop glitch, make sure all of your teammates sit in replay until the clock ticks to zero. I was told this by a notorious face off loop glitch player. The thing is you need to be ready for it at any time even at the end of a period. I just sit in replay the whole time in between pauses and end of periods.

[JMBOO]

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Thank you for that info, catcatch 22. Very nice there.

[acidraindrops08]

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Hey to avoid the pause face off loop glitch, make sure all of your teammates sit in replay until the clock ticks to zero. I was told this by a notorious face off loop glitch player. The thing is you need to be ready for it at any time even at the end of a period. I just sit in replay the whole time in between pauses and end of periods.

Wait, so once they pause it and you're at the pause menu what do you do? I've heard to let the time run out and not press resume game, but this doesn't do anything. The only work around is whenever you're up a few goals, if you can manage to win the faceoff, pull you're goalie, then score on you're own net. This completely negates the loop, but you're also conceding a goal.

[catcatch22]

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Wait, so once they pause it and you're at the pause menu what do you do? I've heard to let the time run out and not press resume game, but this doesn't do anything. The only work around is whenever you're up a few goals, if you can manage to win the faceoff, pull you're goalie, then score on you're own net. This completely negates the loop, but you're also conceding a goal.

Just go into replay, sit there and watch the replay if you want till the time expires. I got this info from a guy I played with on a team I joined on a whim recently and whenever we were down he would try to do face off loops. During his attempts he mentioned if they ever do it to you go into replay and sit there. During a stretch of games I would purposely sit in replay while he would try to attempt to loop a game in order to sabotage his efforts and it worked. However I was on his team so....

The reason I played with him was the team was a clean team save for him which was annoying since he would try to glitch every time. Not to mention finding a team that plays solid good hockey that still plays club regularly. I eventually quit and removed him from my friends list but it was definitely awkward having to play with someone of that mentality.

Lots of uncomfortable silences when you hear "I'm looping this".

[Qb]

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The only work around is whenever you're up a few goals, if you can manage to win the faceoff, pull you're goalie, then score on you're own net. This completely negates the loop, but you're also conceding a goal.

Huh, so that's why people do that? We didn't get blown out too often, but when we did the other team would sometimes pull their goalie at the end. We never knew why and decided flip dumping the puck into the crowd directly over the goal was the best course of action when we had an open shot at the empty net. It made us laugh at the end of those rare frustrating games.

[voodoo_magic]

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My team, which has been together since the start of eashl made a decision to try to play the game as realistic as possible and not purposely try a cheese shot.
While it's one of the best experiences in video gaming when you play another clean team 6vs6 we often have trouble when playing the cheesiest teams.
We play good enough defensively to stop most of their chances but are not very good at cheesing so can't give it back to them.
Our team will look for the chance to cheese back but sometimes actually play worse because we pass up chances to make a good pass and set up a play while looking to wrap.

I wouldn't be surprised if some teams start off saying we will only cheese when they do it first but then some of the guys get good at it and before you know it your team is cheesing first because you assume the other team will.

[milesizdead]

My team, which has been together since the start of eashl made a decision to try to play the game as realistic as possible and not purposely try a cheese shot.
While it's one of the best experiences in video gaming when you play another clean team 6vs6 we often have trouble when playing the cheesiest teams.
We play good enough defensively to stop most of their chances but are not very good at cheesing so can't give it back to them.
Our team will look for the chance to cheese back but sometimes actually play worse because we pass up chances to make a good pass and set up a play while looking to wrap.

I wouldn't be surprised if some teams start off saying we will only cheese when they do it first but then some of the guys get good at it and before you know it your team is cheesing first because you assume the other team will.

Fighting fire with fire is something we´ve thought about, there is something appealing in that.
But I would have to practice cheesing, nah, I´d rather just play the game and get better legit

But thanks guys, it´s interesting to read about your experiences, and tactics

[IBYCFOTA]

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if you CHEAT and use boost packs and cartoonish equipment, you should cut your testicles off.. we need to make sure you dont pass your genes and loose morals onto another generation...

If you actually paid money to cheat.. then you should just eat a bullet and make the world a better place.

I'll say it time and again.. EA took what could have been THE SINGLE BEST MODE IN ALL OF SPORTS GAMES and they encouraged cheating... unbelievable.

There needs to be a an option to label yourself a "clean" team that doesnt use this sort of tomfoolery. Then other clean teams can choose to only play against verified non-cheats.

I don't think you understand what the word "cheating" means.

I mean, did the Rangers cheat too when they outbid other teams for players before the lockout?

[m-dogg]

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Just go into replay, sit there and watch the replay if you want till the time expires. I got this info from a guy I played with on a team I joined on a whim recently and whenever we were down he would try to do face off loops. During his attempts he mentioned if they ever do it to you go into replay and sit there. During a stretch of games I would purposely sit in replay while he would try to attempt to loop a game in order to sabotage his efforts and it worked. However I was on his team so....

The reason I played with him was the team was a clean team save for him which was annoying since he would try to glitch every time. Not to mention finding a team that plays solid good hockey that still plays club regularly. I eventually quit and removed him from my friends list but it was definitely awkward having to play with someone of that mentality.

Lots of uncomfortable silences when you hear "I'm looping this".

this replay method does not work, just tried this last night. we were killing a glitch team, and sure enough, 1:30 to go the game is pause. I have all my team go into the replay mode and wait until time runs out. at the faceoff, the loop...eventual disconnect, no win.

and I don't think you should be cheesing cheesers, it only encourages them to think its ok to do that crap. my team has never attempted a single glitch shot, reverse skate, wraparound, cherrypick, or bring the wrister behind your body before you shoot it... and find it much more satisfying to beat glitch teams with real hockey.

we like to show them that if you put as much effort into real hockey (moving the puck, using all your teammates (gulp, even the AI)) as they do on glitching -- then they would actually score MORE goals and win more games.
I'll never understand how its fun to do the same thing over and over and over again anyway...shouldn't these little kids be bored by now and moved on to glitching some halo game or something?!

please EA, program some random element of goalie AI so you have to actually look at the goalie to see where to shoot instead of the same ol tricks working on him over and over...

[voodoo_magic]

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I'll never understand how its fun to do the same thing over and over and over again anyway...shouldn't these little kids be bored by now and moved on to glitching some halo game or something?!

This is what I don't understand, it's July, there's no playoffs to try to get into and the glitching is as bad as ever.
You would think at this time of year it would be guys that love hockey playing the game, and like you say the other people would move on to some other game by now.
I think these guys that are doing anything to get to the top at this time of year have some real "life issues". No normal person would think it's something special to be #1 in the casual league with a 200-10 w/l record in July.

[akula]

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if EA would have the balls to actively patch these problems out of the game it would be much appreciated. They did do SOME (Ie: fixed slap passes, make pinning less cheesy, tried to fix the curve shot) but there are still glitches that are unacceptable (wrap around cheese, the other type of curve shot) along with the looping glitch.

imo they also need to do something about quitters/disconectors.. punish them! if someone disconnects enough, ban them for 24 hours! then longer if needed, enough is enough. the casual leagues can have the quitters, in EASHL they should not be tolerated by EA.

[acidraindrops08]

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They need to find a better way to punish win traders too... I'm tired of being on a winning streak with my team, and because we have too many dnf wins we stop receiving points... Great solution EA.

[sroz39]

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this replay method does not work, just tried this last night. we were killing a glitch team, and sure enough, 1:30 to go the game is pause. I have all my team go into the replay mode and wait until time runs out. at the faceoff, the loop...eventual disconnect, no win.

and I don't think you should be cheesing cheesers, it only encourages them to think its ok to do that crap. my team has never attempted a single glitch shot, reverse skate, wraparound, cherrypick, or bring the wrister behind your body before you shoot it... and find it much more satisfying to beat glitch teams with real hockey.

we like to show them that if you put as much effort into real hockey (moving the puck, using all your teammates (gulp, even the AI)) as they do on glitching -- then they would actually score MORE goals and win more games.
I'll never understand how its fun to do the same thing over and over and over again anyway...shouldn't these little kids be bored by now and moved on to glitching some halo game or something?!

please EA, program some random element of goalie AI so you have to actually look at the goalie to see where to shoot instead of the same ol tricks working on him over and over...

Actually, it does work, but what your whole team has to do is NEVER hit the A button at any time in the game to resume the game. In between faceoffs, intermissions, pauses...never.

I play on a legit team, widely recognized in the EASHL for our clean play, and we've been spreading the word as best we can to everyone. Never, ever hit A at any point in the game to skip through anything and you shouldn't get looped. Since we've learned this, we've only been looped once in about a month. The other night, we sat through 6 loop attempts over two games and didn't get looped any of those times.

[m-dogg]

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Actually, it does work, but what your whole team has to do is NEVER hit the A button at any time in the game to resume the game. In between faceoffs, intermissions, pauses...never.

I play on a legit team, widely recognized in the EASHL for our clean play, and we've been spreading the word as best we can to everyone. Never, ever hit A at any point in the game to skip through anything and you shouldn't get looped. Since we've learned this, we've only been looped once in about a month. The other night, we sat through 6 loop attempts over two games and didn't get looped any of those times.

ok thanks for clarifying. although I don't know whats worse, waiting through every pause and intermission...or getting glitched out of a win. hehe...we'll probably just accept losing our wins, its not that important I guess..

props on trying to keep EASHL clean though!