Matt10's Heisman Sliders (PS3)

[Chrisksaint]

Re: Matt10's Heisman Sliders (PS3)

How well would these sliders run on All American instead of Heisman

[jira2004]

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Just a quick thought to that formula is everyone playing style is soo different from the next person that it is really hard to be analytical about the sliders..............I've also notice that A rated teams of course plays better and runs better than B or C rated teams with these sliders like it should be.....

[frankstallone83]

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That's all true - I was just really bored at work today!

Even though I've played for a long time I've never liked to mess w/ sliders too much (try to give ea benefit of the doubt) but AA is to easy and Heisman is no fun so your sliders have really helped me out, matt10.

[JayBee74]

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Played as Navy (C+) against Akron (D+). They actually lead 6-0 with 17 seconds in the first half. Then I connected on a fly route for 68 yards and a score to lead 7-6 at halftime. Inexplicable coverage-the corner played bump and run and there was no safety help. Once my WR broke free it was off to the races.

Akron moved the ball early scoring on a 17 yard pass to the TE, and shot itself in the foot with a INT in the endzone. They threw 3 picks in total, which I had no problem with.

What I had a problem with once again was the ease of running to the outside. I know it's Akron but once I got the 14-6 lead I did nothing but run to the left side as my #1 HB got 140 yards on 28 carries, while my #2 got 43 yards on 6 carries. My #1 HB had only 8 yards in the first half , until I went with sweeps, power, and counter runs to the left side using Big Ace packages. This is with CPU Rush D at 45 actually +5 over your 40. CPU tackling was set at your default of 50. I won 28-6.

Maybe I shouldn't be complaining too much because it was Akron, but you'd think the CPU would adjust to the constant pounding of the ball to the left side and the fact that I wasn't passing.

I would access my skill level at D+ and that's probably generous.

[Howie5]

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I played as Cincy and lost to utah 35-25...Collaros threw the ball over 45 times for over 350 yards but the defense couldn't stop Utah's spread. They're ranked #23 & Cincy is #24. Great game again!

[Matt10]

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Played as Navy (C+) against Akron (D+). They actually lead 6-0 with 17 seconds in the first half. Then I connected on a fly route for 68 yards and a score to lead 7-6 at halftime. Inexplicable coverage-the corner played bump and run and there was no safety help. Once my WR broke free it was off to the races.

Akron moved the ball early scoring on a 17 yard pass to the TE, and shot itself in the foot with a INT in the endzone. They threw 3 picks in total, which I had no problem with.

What I had a problem with once again was the ease of running to the outside. I know it's Akron but once I got the 14-6 lead I did nothing but run to the left side as my #1 HB got 140 yards on 28 carries, while my #2 got 43 yards on 6 carries. My #1 HB had only 8 yards in the first half , until I went with sweeps, power, and counter runs to the left side using Big Ace packages. This is with CPU Rush D at 45 actually +5 over your 40. CPU tackling was set at your default of 50. I won 28-6.

Maybe I shouldn't be complaining too much because it was Akron, but you'd think the CPU would adjust to the constant pounding of the ball to the left side and the fact that I wasn't passing.

I would access my skill level at D+ and that's probably generous.

Well, I also did testing here - and was actually the majority of my focus. So I went drastic from 60 RBL for the user, dropped it to 20.

Results were interesting I would say, although I tested with VT against VT - so moving the slider to 20 was actually seemingly even on counter plays.

I'm going to play a game with the RBL at 20 - and report back. If it doesn't hurt the run game too much, and most importantly remove the "exploit" of the counter - or running to outside in general - it could be added to the set.

[Matt10]

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Halftime of Iowa (CPU) @ Wisconsin (me)

Iowa 27, Wisc 14

Passing: Iowa - Stanzi, 11/13 261 yds, 4 TD **getting killed by going for the big hits instead of the wrap up, also blitzing too much**

Wisc - Tolzien, 10/15 234 yds, 2 TD, INT **got lucky on a long screen pass to Clay for 70 yards**

Rushing, now here's where I was a tad skeptical, but pleasantly surprised...

Rushing: Iowa - Robinson, 11 att 85 yds (30 yd long)
Rushing: Wisc - Clay, 16 att 76 yds (12 yd long)

So, there you go. I'm going to quit the game - pretty happy with the stats, fairly realistic I'd say, now I'm going to work on the QB accuracy and adjust FGA, same with tackling.

I decided that I wont update the sliders, there are some drastic changes and I think the ones on the front page are working for me, and appearing so with others.

If I see any drastic need for change, it'll happen. For now, the one on the first page is set. I suggest for those of you looking for more of a challenge to post what your findings were. I've realized it's not easy to tailor to everyone's needs here.

Would still love the feedback - thanks again so far, glad this set is giving something back in a way - at first, I wasn't even sure of posting them.

[Chrisksaint]

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Just started my 2nd year in my LSU dynasty with these sliders and first time playing on Heisman. I beat Southern Miss 42-13 which seemed pretty realistic so i'm optimistic about these sliders/

[Howie5]

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Like others...id say my only issue is the success Ive had with the counter play. Eventually the other team seems to figure it out, but if we could fix that a bit, these would be good to go.

[jira2004]

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Yes I will piggy back on the running plays I play with Ucla and my next game was against Texas......

I ran for a combine 327 yds with only 89 yds passing.....Hmmmmm I was a B team against a 13th rank A Texas ........

Maybe I think RbL will have to lowered as I was thinking to 20-25 I will test and see......Loving everything else

[Matt10]

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Okay guys - here's the front page updated - and below is a modded set for the running game exploit to be dimmed. Please note - yards will be hard to come by as average against better teams.

Heisman, 9 mins, Slow game speed
Player Min Speed Threshold: 35
Rules: All 100 except False Start (65), Holding 50, Facemask 50, Clipping 50

Custom AI
User/CPU
QBA - 50/45
PBL - 40/40
WR Cat - 45/40
RBA - 50/45
RBL - 60/50
Pass Cvr - 60/30
Pass Rush - 60/30
Interceptions - 30/35
Rush Defense - 50/40
Tackling - 60/50
FGP - 50/50
FGA - 0/45
Punt PWr - 50/50
Punt Accuracy - 50/30
Kickoff - 50/50

******Modded Set (below) aim is for reduced exploit of counter plays, if this set comes successful, original will be obsolete************

Heisman, 9 mins, Slow game speed (Modded Set, 7/19/10)
Player Min Speed Threshold: 35
Rules: All 100 except False Start (65), Holding 50, Facemask 50, Clipping 50

Custom AI
User/CPU
QBA - 40(50)/45 <------- User QBs were fairly accurate before, dropped to 40
PBL - 40/40
WR Cat - 45/40
RBA - 50/45
RBL - 20(60)/50 <----------20-30 will work for RBL, only tested 20 tho
Pass Cvr - 60/30
Pass Rush - 60/30
Interceptions - 30/35
Rush Defense - 50/40
Tackling - 45 (60)/50<------45-50 will work, too many user caused fumbles imho before
FGP - 50/50
FGA - 0/45
Punt PWr - 50/50
Punt Accuracy - 50/30
Kickoff - 50/50

[lclmana]

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I got to say I am going to try these sliders out...read thru all the posts and I never paid to much attention to sliders figured 50/50 was fair...thanks for the work into finding the realistic feel to this game!!

[cincy14fan]

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Matt here is the Ohio State game in third year. Ironically most of my changes are similar to your new sliders (actually bumped up human acc to 35 cause in a hostile environment 30 was just too unfair).

#9 Cincinnati @ #3 Ohio State
Score: 17 - 13
First Downs: 9 - 9
Total Offense: 239 - 241
Rushing: 24-106-1 - 28-130-0
Passing: 4-13-0 - 11-22-2
Passing Yds: 133 - 111
3rd Down: 5-8 - 4-10
4th Down: 0-0 - 1-1
Redzone: 3-1-1 - 2-1-0
Turnovers: 4 (fumble, 3 INT's) - 2 (2 INT's)
T.O.P.: 8:44 - 15:16

Despite the four turnovers only 2 were very bad for me. First one was I fumbled on the one when I was up 7-0. Thought it would hurt, but then got a pick for six to go up 14-0. First score came with 54 seconds left in half on a questionable call in the back of the endzone with 54 seconds left. I was just on the cusp of field goal range with 12 seconds left and tried to do a quick pass which would be my first interception of the game.

Third quarter I would just try to run the ball and only throw when needed, but that got me in trouble when I threw my next 2 interceptions in the third quarter. They would fail to score on either chance. First they got in the redzone and a sack pushed them back to the 28 where they missed the field goal by hitting it off the post. Second chance would end as I would pick off a pass.

They would score in the fourth, but would miss the extra point, but it didn't matter when I kicked a field goal with just 18 seconds left to push the lead to four for the win.

[cincy14fan]

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Matt also sent you a PM about the sliders, and what I though of the game against Ohio State.

[elementz09]

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Just finished a game with these sliders and I'm pretty sure these are realistic stats but you be the judge:

Iowa (cpu) @ Iowa St.(me)

24 Score 10

19 1st Downs 10

399 Tot. Off. 252

38-190-1 Rush/Yds/TD. 24-36-1

11-19-1 Comp/Att/TD 17-32-0

209 Pass Yds. 216

2-9(22%) 3rd Down Conv. 6-15(40%)

1-1(100%) 4th Down Conv. 0-1(0%)

3-2-0(66%) RedZone-Td-FG 1-1-0(100%)

3 Turnovers 2

2 Fumbles Lost 1

1 Interceptions 1

22 Pr Yds 29

69 Kr Yds 116

490 Total Yds 397

4-47.8 Punts/Avg. 7-43.9

0-0 Penalties 0-0

19:36 T.O.P. 23:05

The weird thing about this game was there were ZERO PENALTIES on both sides of the ball!! Not one! Other than that, pretty fair game I can only assume running with Iowa St. right?