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  • MAHAM
    Rookie
    • Aug 2008
    • 323

    #1

    Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

    I use the Colts and their offensive playbook every year. Something about their playbook on '11 didn't seem right to me, so I counted plays & formations from Madden '10. I left out special teams and goaline.

    Heres what I found:
    Colts playbook for Madden 10 has 21 sets and 345 plays total

    Colts playbook for Madden 11 has 13 sets with 216 plays total

    Madden '10 has 8 more sets and 129 more plays. They also removed Shotgun Ace that was only found in the Colts playbook, one of my favorite sets.

  • sniperhare
    MVP
    • Dec 2009
    • 1145

    #2
    Re: Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

    Well they did say that most people only call a handful of plays...

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    • MAHAM
      Rookie
      • Aug 2008
      • 323

      #3
      Re: Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

      Originally posted by sniperhare
      Well they did say that most people only call a handful of plays...
      I usually don't call the same play twice in a game minus a few runs, but I do notice alot of players who run the same few over & over.

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      • Palo20
        MVP
        • Dec 2006
        • 3908

        #4
        Re: Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

        I hope that's not the case for every team. The Colts actually run a pretty simple offense formation wise. They use very little motion and only use a handful of formations.

        I think they've cut out a lot of the generic plays and kept only the team specific plays. I just hope they got every team right.
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        • Skyboxer
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          • Jul 2002
          • 20302

          #5
          Re: Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

          Seems EA is basing a lot of design decisions on what happens online. God help all us football gamers if that's true.
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          • ODogg
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2003
            • 37953

            #6
            Re: Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

            Yeah I agree Skyboxer. Very scary if that's true.
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            • bwright25
              Rookie
              • Jul 2009
              • 69

              #7
              Re: Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

              Is this based on the playbook from the demo? If so I bet the whole playbook wasnt put into the demo for the purpose of slimming down an already large file to download.

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              • SA1NT401
                Banned
                • Sep 2007
                • 3498

                #8
                Re: Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

                Originally posted by Skyboxer
                Seems EA is basing a lot of design decisions on what happens online. God help all us football gamers if that's true.
                I endorse you statement 10000%....But shrinking the playbooks does leave one to believe that is their logic...God help us all.

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                • Zuke
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 179

                  #9
                  Re: Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

                  I thought they made game planning for the people that call the same plays? If i had the choice i would have over 1,ooo plays in my playbook love to call all different kind of plays.
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                  If this is true than along with SP i will not be enjoying this game that much<O</O

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                  • Cryolemon
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 1669

                    #10
                    Re: Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

                    People have been saying for a long time that the playbooks are too generic, so maybe they had the idea of removing the generic plays, as has already been mentioned.

                    I personally think that is the wrong way to go, but still.

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                    • XtremeDunkz
                      CNFL Commissioner
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 3414

                      #11
                      Re: Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

                      The demo playbook is not the full playbook........
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                      • Dewie12
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 787

                        #12
                        Re: Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

                        NFL weekly playbooks are smaller than their whole playbooks.

                        To me the question is can we add/create plays (which happens every week in the NFL)?

                        That is where EA is always leaving the gamers short. Custom-ability.

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                        • adembroski
                          49ers
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5829

                          #13
                          Re: Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

                          They are a lot closer to the real size of NFL playbooks now. Unfortunately what they haven't gotten is the ability to run a play from multiple formations.

                          I don't think there are any teams with 350+ plays, but there are teams with several dozen variations on each individual play, be it able to use different blocking schemes, option routes, run out of different formations, etc..

                          The reason they playbooks ever made 350 in the first place was because in order for EA to include, say, Power O in Ace Slot, Ace Big, I, Strong, and Weak all the in the same playbook was by having 5 separate plays. There needs to be a system of adapting plays to as many formations as possible so that they playbook needs use only one slot for that play, which will then appear in every formation that is appropriate.

                          This is even more prevalent on defense. A given coverage can be run from any formation, generally, and so you end up with 8-10 slots taken up by the same coverage.

                          Really is a waste of space overall.
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                          • ttmatt
                            Rookie
                            • May 2010
                            • 57

                            #14
                            Re: Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

                            Originally posted by adembroski
                            They are a lot closer to the real size of NFL playbooks now. Unfortunately what they haven't gotten is the ability to run a play from multiple formations.

                            I don't think there are any teams with 350+ plays, but there are teams with several dozen variations on each individual play, be it able to use different blocking schemes, option routes, run out of different formations, etc..

                            The reason they playbooks ever made 350 in the first place was because in order for EA to include, say, Power O in Ace Slot, Ace Big, I, Strong, and Weak all the in the same playbook was by having 5 separate plays. There needs to be a system of adapting plays to as many formations as possible so that they playbook needs use only one slot for that play, which will then appear in every formation that is appropriate.

                            This is even more prevalent on defense. A given coverage can be run from any formation, generally, and so you end up with 8-10 slots taken up by the same coverage.

                            Really is a waste of space overall.
                            Formation shifts would help tremendously in this issue. For example, if you have I normal and I twins in the same playbook, each formation could have its own set of unique plays. If there is a twins play that you like, but its only available in the normal formation, you just call it in twins and then shift to normal at the line. This would solve the problem for all formations that use the same personel. You could run I normal/ I twins/ I TE slot with triple the plays at your disposal without having redundant plays cluttering up the playbook. This feature used to be in Madden, but was taken out for some reason.

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                            • booker21
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 4928

                              #15
                              Re: Madden 11 playbooks are substantially smaller than Madden 10

                              Originally posted by Skyboxer
                              Seems EA is basing a lot of design decisions on what happens online. God help all us football gamers if that's true.
                              yeah this is pathetic
                              English, is not my first language.

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