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  • Dalsanto0026
    Banned
    • Aug 2007
    • 729

    #31
    Re: NHL 11 Video: Quick Clip 4B - The Call / Quick Clip 5 - Opening Sequences

    Originally posted by Money99
    I guess I'll be the black cloud.
    The presentation looks a lot better, but I was bored by the 3rd entrance (Mtl-NYI). It's the same thing over and over.
    And I wonder if the players shown in the split-screen will always be the same-handed, no matter which way they shoot. Stuff like that really bothers me. I guess I'm just incredibly anal when it comes to that.
    But I have to think most baseball fans would be ticked off if they saw the same cut-scene of players warming up and seeing Albert Pujol's taking a few practice swings as a lefty.

    I'd prefer a more dynamic, real-time opening to the games.
    Have multiple camera angles selected randomly, show the players shooting around, warming up. Just make it seem more organic than giving us the same 4 scenes over and over.

    I'll probably be skipping through this by game 3 of my Dynasty.
    The only way I keep it going is if they give us updated stats during the intro's. Something like "Jeff Carter is on an 8-game goal scoring streak, while Ron Ellis is struggling with a 3.08 GAA over his last 4 starts".
    Stuff like that is awesome. But if it's just the same stale entry, I'd rather just pass over it.
    You've summed up exactly how I feel Money.

    Judging by this video presentation still needs a lot of work.

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    • elsonico
      Rookie
      • May 2005
      • 6

      #32
      Re: NHL 11 Video: Quick Clip 4B - The Call / Quick Clip 5 - Opening Sequences

      looking at stats and presentation and the argument "it is too difficult/ can not be done".

      It CAN be done, because it is very simple. Let's face the facts:

      All NHL-Player names will be pre-recorded
      Numbers from 1-20 will be pre-recorded.
      All NHL Teams will be pre-recorded.

      All you need now are sentences like:

      "[PLAYER X] is on a hot streak, scoring [Number X] goals in the last [Number Y] games."
      "[Goalie X] has only won [Number X] in his last [Number Y] starts, let's see how he does today."
      "The [Team name X] are on a hot streak right now, having won [number x] of their last [number Y] games."
      ...

      Put these into the opening scene and you have a brand new game.

      For those who have played NFL2K5, do you remember having Sports Center? Around the leagues scores? I want that! Heck, even NHL94 had scores around the league and showed highlights from other games (even if they usually were shots from center ice which the goalie couldn't cope with, but still...). NHL94 even had the NHL Awards after the season ended! It can be done! So bring it!

      The PS3 has got a blu-ray discs with TONS of space on it, fill it up!
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      • Dalsanto0026
        Banned
        • Aug 2007
        • 729

        #33
        Re: NHL 11 Video: Quick Clip 4B - The Call / Quick Clip 5 - Opening Sequences

        Originally posted by elsonico
        looking at stats and presentation and the argument "it is too difficult/ can not be done".

        It CAN be done, because it is very simple. Let's face the facts:

        All NHL-Player names will be pre-recorded
        Numbers from 1-20 will be pre-recorded.
        All NHL Teams will be pre-recorded.

        All you need now are sentences like:

        "[PLAYER X] is on a hot streak, scoring [Number X] goals in the last [Number Y] games."
        "[Goalie X] has only won [Number X] in his last [Number Y] starts, let's see how he does today."
        "The [Team name X] are on a hot streak right now, having won [number x] of their last [number Y] games."
        ...

        Put these into the opening scene and you have a brand new game.

        For those who have played NFL2K5, do you remember having Sports Center? Around the leagues scores? I want that! Heck, even NHL94 had scores around the league and showed highlights from other games (even if they usually were shots from center ice which the goalie couldn't cope with, but still...). NHL94 even had the NHL Awards after the season ended! It can be done! So bring it!

        The PS3 has got a blu-ray discs with TONS of space on it, fill it up!
        Exactly. If it's been done before it can certainly be done again.

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        • tabulaRasa
          Pro
          • Aug 2005
          • 641

          #34
          I kind of liked the old clean look of the overlays, this new metal-ish is good too, but I was expecting a more clean look
          The intros looked a bit stiff, and the goalie looks like heยดs holding a invisible rink edge when he enter the bench. Overall, the game looks awesome anyhow.

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          • tabulaRasa
            Pro
            • Aug 2005
            • 641

            #35
            How is it about the rinks and arenas in NHL11? In 2K they had the right colored borders around the riinks and such.

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            • headsigh
              Rookie
              • Jul 2009
              • 99

              #36
              Re: NHL 11 Video: Quick Clip 4B - The Call / Quick Clip 5 - Opening Sequences

              Moncton Coliseum isn't in Dieppe, NB, it actually IS in Moncton.
              The team from Acadie-Bathurst is simply called Titan, not the Titans.
              "Long Island Arena" actually has a capacity of 16,234.


              I hope this is just early build mess-ups.

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              • Bama83
                Banned
                • Dec 2008
                • 399

                #37
                Re: NHL 11 Video: Quick Clip 4B - The Call / Quick Clip 5 - Opening Sequences

                When it comes to dynamic intros and cut-scenes, the developers mentioned that this is their ultimate goal.

                They said that as the physics layers are added it will make this type of presentation more possible. Right now, the collision detection isn't where it needs to be to develop a good looking "real time presentation".

                Stat overlays and dynamic dialogue need to be added - and hopefully it's an unshown feature or will come in 2012.

                As it stands, I agree that the intros will quickly get stale. That's the issue with cut scenes ... they aren't interactive or dynamic. It's great for old tech, but in today's world it's a waste of resource hours.

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                • LuGer33
                  EA Game Changer
                  • May 2009
                  • 314

                  #38
                  Re: NHL 11 Video: Quick Clip 4B - The Call / Quick Clip 5 - Opening Sequences

                  Stat overlays
                  They're in 2011. There's a screenshot floating around somewhere. Dynamic commentary (outside of the win streak stuff, which they do have) would be nice too.
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                  • ericromain
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 211

                    #39
                    Re: NHL 11 Video: Quick Clip 4B - The Call / Quick Clip 5 - Opening Sequences

                    Originally posted by elsonico
                    NHL94 even had the NHL Awards after the season ended! It can be done! So bring it!
                    NHL 94 didn't even have a regular season mode. Only playoffs, exhibition, and shootout. I think you're confusing it with 95.

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                    • elsonico
                      Rookie
                      • May 2005
                      • 6

                      #40
                      Re: NHL 11 Video: Quick Clip 4B - The Call / Quick Clip 5 - Opening Sequences

                      Originally posted by ericromain
                      NHL 94 didn't even have a regular season mode. Only playoffs, exhibition, and shootout. I think you're confusing it with 95.
                      maybe, it's been quite some time since I've played it. But you get my point, right?
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                      • Gagnon39
                        Windy City Sports Fan
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 8548

                        #41
                        Re: NHL 11 Video: Quick Clip 4B - The Call / Quick Clip 5 - Opening Sequences

                        I'd really like to see user-controlled intros. Let us be able to skate around, shoot, and do all the things that NHL teams do before a game.
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                        • onlybygrace
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3769

                          #42
                          Re: NHL 11 Video: Quick Clip 4B - The Call / Quick Clip 5 - Opening Sequences

                          I don't know if anyone has said this, but it would be pretty sweet if the the goal horn was blown again for reviewed goals that are allowed for the home team.

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                          • MizzouRah
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 8435

                            #43
                            Re: NHL 11 Video: Quick Clip 4B - The Call / Quick Clip 5 - Opening Sequences

                            I would like more too.. I'm a presentation whore.. but the announcer did seems much more enthusiastic for the NHL game introduction and I hope the two players who are spotlighted have some stats shown and it doesn't go right to the faceoff like that.

                            I'm sure there are more in game stuff we have yet to see.. at least I'm hopeful.

                            One thing I still want to see sometime in the future is where they announce the scratches for the game and then after they announce the starters for the other team, the teams come out onto the ice and then your starters are announced. I don't know if that's done everywhere, but that's how they do it here in St. Louis.

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