NCAA's Broken Dynasty Mode -- Another reason we need a revolution

[jsquigg]

Re: NCAA's Broken Dynasty Mode -- Another reason we need a revolution

They are mutually exclusive to a certain point. But the real point I'm making is that this brokenness is the result of developers trying to put a fresh coat of paint on a el camino and calling it exciting again.

For those who have played the series for a long time you'll agree: Dynasty mode, at it's core, is the exact same mode it was in 1998. The year is now 2010, I think it's time to rethink the entire process and formula dynasty has gone with for 13 years because yes, it is incredibly stale. You dont have to reinvent the wheel, but at least put some focus back into it (ie be the coach).

Right now, what are you in dynasty mode? The coach? If so then it hardly scratches the surface of the college fb coaching world and on that point alone: it's a highly flawed concept.

It's ignorant to say that dynasty mode hasn't changed since '98. While the mode hasn't innovated in awhile, there have been many positive and negative changes to dynasty mode. You're letting your own personal expectations ruin any objectivity you might have. Unfortunately, that's the tone many of your articles take. You can't always want a revolution, especially since dynasty mode only needs to be tweaked, even if they did change to a career/coach mode most of the functional aspects of the current dynasty would be expected to remain consistent.

[marktg30]

Re: NCAA's Broken Dynasty Mode -- Another reason we need a revolution

Any word from EA about this? Maybe it is something they can tune/patch.

I have a feeling that it would require the deletion of any Dynasties, though.

[MattUMD224]

Re: NCAA's Broken Dynasty Mode -- Another reason we need a revolution

I do believe you downloaded something but I have a hard time believing it is the patch. More people would be saying this and we would certainly have heard from EA by now.

its nothing when I put the game in my dad's PS3 last night I had to download a new firmware.

[ajaxab]

It's ignorant to say that dynasty mode hasn't changed since '98. While the mode hasn't innovated in awhile, there have been many positive and negative changes to dynasty mode. You're letting your own personal expectations ruin any objectivity you might have. Unfortunately, that's the tone many of your articles take. You can't always want a revolution, especially since dynasty mode only needs to be tweaked, even if they did change to a career/coach mode most of the functional aspects of the current dynasty would be expected to remain consistent.

You might disagree with MMChrisS's argument, but it doesn't make any sense to charge him with a lack of objectivity. There's no need to be objective in what is essentially an editorial. Give the guy credit for taking a position and trying to make an argument. There was no intention to be objective as there isn't in any of his articles. I haven't agreed with everything he's written on the site, but I never for a moment believed he was trying to be objective. Making arguments is entirely about being subjective and staking out positions. There's nothing wrong with "the tone many of your articles take."

[blkraven1]

I think we all are looking at this the wrong way...the only reason for the "stretched" ratings is for the upload fix to madden 11...there cant be 90+ ratings for almost every position on a good team like Oklahoma, or Alabama...it would result in madden having an overstocked draft class every season with nothing but good players...there should be a balance of great players who can make an impact as rookies, good players who need time to develop with high potential, to the career backups...I do agree however that they should have made this same scale with the stock rosters...almost every team seems like it has 2 or three stars on it.

[MattUMD224]

Re: NCAA's Broken Dynasty Mode -- Another reason we need a revolution

I think we all are looking at this the wrong way...the only reason for the "stretched" ratings is for the upload fix to madden 11...there cant be 90+ ratings for almost every position on a good team like Oklahoma, or Alabama...it would result in madden having an overstocked draft class every season with nothing but good players...there should be a balance of great players who can make an impact as rookies, good players who need time to develop with high potential, to the career backups...I do agree however that they should have made this same scale with the stock rosters...almost every team seems like it has 2 or three stars on it.

That is incorrect. No matter what a player OVR is in NCAA is drops drastically in Madden. Not only that his ratings drop and players aren't even the same. A guy like C.J. Spiller was a 98 Speed in NCAA, but moved into Madden he was an 86.

[blkraven1]

That is incorrect. No matter what a player OVR is in NCAA is drops drastically in Madden. Not only that his ratings drop and players aren't even the same. A guy like C.J. Spiller was a 98 Speed in NCAA, but moved into Madden he was an 86.

If i do remember correctly this was one of the tuning issues they've reportedly tried to fix...maybe its a lil different formula than we've been accustomed to in the past...call it the optimist in me that wants to believe this is the ONLY possible reason for this mishap.

[beauforsure]

Re: NCAA's Broken Dynasty Mode -- Another reason we need a revolution

If i do remember correctly this was one of the tuning issues they've reportedly tried to fix...maybe its a lil different formula than we've been accustomed to in the past...call it the optimist in me that wants to believe this is the ONLY possible reason for this mishap.

I AGREE with what this guy is saying... I think MADDEN will have a better system when importing classes from NCAA. Im looking at my Virgina roster right now, and i have maybe 3 good players and 2 impacts. So this is life-like...there shouldnt be a STAR at every postion. The progrssion does seem a little slow, and i agree with the AWR being really low...

If i were doing it, i would just have whatever rating the player is in NCAA , when you imported him , he stayed the same exactly...ratings,number,equipment , etc... So if my DE was rated an 86 OVR hed come to MADDEN with that rating..

Also, if they do patch this , THEY NEED TO MAKE IT PERFORMANCE PROGRESSION !! A guy who throws for 40 td and 9 ints, should progress at least +6 going into next year...

[Deegeezy]

Re: NCAA's Broken Dynasty Mode -- Another reason we need a revolution

Yeah I like the direction they're going with lower rated players across the board and stetched ratings, they just took it a tad bit too far. Also having so many WRs with 33 juke ratings and no kickers being able to hit extra points consistently is an issue.

[Cwb917]

Re: NCAA's Broken Dynasty Mode -- Another reason we need a revolution

The thing that stinks the most is that this is the most fun I, and I assume, many others have had playing NCAA in years. It stinks that the majority of us will trade this in towards madden since we have no timetable for a fix on this issue.

[jfsolo]

Re: NCAA's Broken Dynasty Mode -- Another reason we need a revolution

The thing that stinks the most is that this is the most fun I, and I assume, many others have had playing NCAA in years. It stinks that the majority of us will trade this in towards madden since we have no timetable for a fix on this issue.

A few will trade it in for Madden, but if you look at the poll in this forum, it may not be that many. Since they didn't do much to Franchise mode, I'm passing on Madden this year, and won't be getting any other game until NBA 2K11 comes out.

I plan on playing this game for months and months so I will wait on the patch and won't abandon the game.

From my perspective as a layman, the issues I have with the game seem like they should be easily fixable.

[BroMontana82]

Re: NCAA's Broken Dynasty Mode -- Another reason we need a revolution

i didn't even know about this. i'm in year 1. so basically, the problem starts when? a few years in? is there hope a patch would fix existing dynasties?

[charter04]

I AGREE with what this guy is saying... I think MADDEN will have a better system when importing classes from NCAA. Im looking at my Virgina roster right now, and i have maybe 3 good players and 2 impacts. So this is life-like...there shouldnt be a STAR at every postion. The progrssion does seem a little slow, and i agree with the AWR being really low...

If i were doing it, i would just have whatever rating the player is in NCAA , when you imported him , he stayed the same exactly...ratings,number,equipment , etc... So if my DE was rated an 86 OVR hed come to MADDEN with that rating..

Also, if they do patch this , THEY NEED TO MAKE IT PERFORMANCE PROGRESSION !! A guy who throws for 40 td and 9 ints, should progress at least +6 going into next year...

That would be terrible. I guy thats 99 over could be the best player in the league as a rookie. They should make the speed, acc, agility, type of ratings stay the same. The AWR, play reg, and stuff like that should be like 60 or something. This would make their overall the way rookies should be but not have spiller or some really fast player loss all speed as a rookie.

[b2smooth]

You know I remember this time last year everybody was complaining about how players progressed too much. Now they don't progress enough and they come in with low ratings. No matter what they do people will find something to complain about. And if you think about it how many freshman per team actually start each year on average. Granted some standouts do but most don't see the field or get redshirted and don't see the field the next season either.

[RumbleCard]

Re: NCAA's Broken Dynasty Mode -- Another reason we need a revolution

I don't mind lower ratings. I don't mind lower ratings of 4 and 5 star incoming recruits. I don't mind that the league isn't filled with 150 90+ rated players.

They have to find a mix here. If they could make it to where we'd see a handful of 90+ rated players along with a slight bump in progression...and I mean slight. We'd have a solid game.