Madden NFL 11 Video: Strategy Pad Criticisms, Letter to Ian Cummings (GoMadden)

[PantherBeast_OS]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Strategy Pad Criticisms, Letter to Ian Cummings (GoMadden)

I just want to say to gomadden good job on your video. I will be the first to say at first when I started playing with the pad it was annoying as heck. I also know alot of you the other day saw my quote used in Gomadden.com write aswell of the fans complaining. But after playing madden for a few days. I have to say I finally got use to the pad and I'm loving it. It did take time to get use to it and all. But at the end of the day I'm pretty much loving it. I know what I said first thing when it came out. But that was a few days ago. But now I've got use to it and I even got a few sacks on manning in my lastest game I just played not long ago that I won barely 7-3. But overall the pad doing fine for me. But again Gomadden good video that you are sending Ian and company. I hope things go well for the fans.

[TalenT]

I'm sorry but, I don't really see what the fuss is about. It's not that bad. Isn't it just one extra step? I have no problem making adjustments while players are walking up to the line. Although, sometimes they snap the ball really fast but doesn't that happen IRL? Once you memorize the directions...It becomes second nature. I guess just give it a chance is what I'm trying to say.

[ODogg]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Strategy Pad Criticisms, Letter to Ian Cummings (GoMadden)

TalenT - did you watch the video? It's not about one extra step at all, this video doesn't even focus on that aspect.

[kjcheezhead]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Strategy Pad Criticisms, Letter to Ian Cummings (GoMadden)

That was ruined last year by some ungracious posters.

They still have community day feedback and they could simply post polls and read results without havng to get down and dirty with hardcore haters.

I wonder what community day guys thought of this. I bet it wasn't recieved with any enthusiasm.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Strategy Pad Criticisms, Letter to Ian Cummings (GoMadden)

They really want Madden to change. They want whats broken to change, such as the suction blocking, and the lack of multiple hit tackles.

Yet we're screaming about a working S-Pad and not those things....
Seems we keep going around in this circle..lol

I'll let this die and just go forward and see what the future holds...

[stoncold32]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Strategy Pad Criticisms, Letter to Ian Cummings (GoMadden)

my issue with this is that it's making me take my hand off the L-stick. I need to be on the L-stick so that when the CPU snaps the ball, I am already ready to engage or move around with my defender. I dont need to be fumbling around on the d-pad when the CPU has just snapped the ball.

Furthermore, this is only driving the gap between players of NCAA and Madden. I thought the goal was to SELL BOTH games? You know, draft your NCAA players and then use them on Madden.

There's no way in the world I would EVER get used to using the strategy pad on Madden and then going over to NCAA with the regular(better) way. Heck, I had a hard enough time last year remembering how to pump fake on both games because it's different for each.

[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Strategy Pad Criticisms, Letter to Ian Cummings (GoMadden)

They still have community day feedback and they could simply post polls and read results without havng to get down and dirty with hardcore haters.

I wonder what community day guys thought of this. I bet it wasn't recieved with any enthusiasm.

True, but community day feedback wouldn't be much with the NDA in place. They really can't say much after community day.

[SteelerSpartan]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Strategy Pad Criticisms, Letter to Ian Cummings (GoMadden)

Good vid....I hope more start to pop up
This isn't a rant, its a thoughtful breakdown of why this thing is going to kill the game for some people


One thing I want made clear though

This thing is slower and Less responsive then the previous system....period

The Delay is small but its there..

For people who make 1 or 2 changes you can get by....but for the guys who make 4 or more moves whether that be shifts,Hot Routes, Press is where this is killing the way they play

No matter how much you "practice" or try and "get used to it"

^^^Im getting a little tired of people yelling that at people who have a problem with the SP......For some people you simply can't make the adjustments you used to make

[Skyboxer]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Strategy Pad Criticisms, Letter to Ian Cummings (GoMadden)

True, but community day feedback wouldn't be much with the NDA in place. They really can't say much after community day.

I say scrap the limited community day and grab a group of willing guys for a few weeks each year. Pay them a small fee and get a real "Innovative Council" meetings going.
I've seen some really great ideas come from the general population that kill some of the design decisions EA makes.

My .02

[PantherBeast_OS]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Strategy Pad Criticisms, Letter to Ian Cummings (GoMadden)

Good vid....I hope more start to pop up
This isn't a rant, its a thoughtful breakdown of why this thing is going to kill the game for some people


One thing I want made clear though

This thing is slower and Less responsive then the previous system....period

The Delay is small but its there..

For people who make 1 or 2 changes you can get by....but for the guys who make 4 or more moves whether that be shifts,Hot Routes, Press is where this is killing the way they play

No matter how much you "practice" or try and "get used to it"

^^^Im getting a little tired of people yelling that at people who have a problem with the SP......For some people you simply can't make the adjustments you used to make

Well bro I thought the same thing when I first tryed the pad for the first time 3 days ago. I said it was slow and took to much time. But since then I got use to it and I do my shifts before the AI snaps the ball. If you practice long enough and if you run the same line shiftss every down. Then after a little pratice you will do it without even thinking about it. Little hit here. Right after your D breaks the huddle start making the line shifts why they are heading to the LOS. That is what I do. But this is agait the AI offline. It might be different for online use. But I mainly play offline anyway.

[WDOgF0reL1fe]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Strategy Pad Criticisms, Letter to Ian Cummings (GoMadden)

He knows that it was B to switch players right? Not A.
A was the Hot route button like he talks about.

[wangtangkiki]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Strategy Pad Criticisms, Letter to Ian Cummings (GoMadden)

No one is talking about the run / pass glitch..
The Strategy pad shows you if it's a run or a pass.. Come out in a run play, press any button on the D-Pad..

You will notice that the up button has nothing listed.. like Hot Routes..

I know you are running so I'll be prepared.. [This is a big concern for tournaments & playing against friends]








Anyone else notice that trying to pinch the defense line has a huge lag? It had a lag last year at times but definitely not as bad as this.. The whole game lags for me but it's probably because it's a demo.

[ODogg]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Strategy Pad Criticisms, Letter to Ian Cummings (GoMadden)

I keep hearing "practice!". I honestly don't see how any sort of practice can overcome a poor digital pad on the 360 coupled with a laggy interface in the game. I can practice until I'm blue in the face, is that going to improve my d-pad on my controller or fix the lag in the games programming of the stratpad's menus???

[tdplaya04]

well thought out, and nicely put together...

I just don't understand why there's not a menu option to go back to the old method?!?

I was wondering the same thing!

[ODogg]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Strategy Pad Criticisms, Letter to Ian Cummings (GoMadden)

wangtangkiki - wow, great point, i never thought about that issue of it giving away your play like that. As for lag, the entire interface is laggy. Yes it's minor but it's noticeable by me.