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  • ODogg
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    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #121
    Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

    The ETA is 2 to 3 weeks I believe is what has been said...Here is the full blog

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    Thank You!

    It's been a while since my last blog (see: A New Game Plan - March 2010) where I outlined our philosophy for the game and the new approach our team took in developing NCAA Football 11. An approach centered on three key elements, Core Gameplay, Collegiate Presentation, and Innovation. Based on the response to the game so far, it seems like we're on the right track. Your response has been fantastic and it certainly wouldn't have been possible without all the great feedback, suggestions, and support from you, our community of passionate college football fans. I want to personally thank everyone who's taken time to send us an email, complete a survey, or post their feedback on the various game forums. The input we receive, both positive and negative, helps us continually improve the game experience today and moving forward.

    IT'S THE SOUND YOU'VE WAITED DAYS TO HEAR... ;-)

    With a nod to my favorite NCAA Football intro video, first things first... I'm happy to report that a title update is coming soon. Look for this in about two-to-three weeks or so (currently estimating mid-August). We'll communicate the official dates as soon as they're locked in.

    This new update covers a variety of fixes and improvements. The team will release more details in the coming days, but I wanted to provide a few highlights as well as discuss one final game "feature" that we have yet to formally announce. First some background...

    WHY BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO GOOD FOOTBALL GAMES

    Some of you may wonder, and rightfully so, "how did they miss that bug?!!" The same thing goes on here at the studio, "HOW DID WE MISS THAT BUG!!" usually with some colorful expletives thrown in for good measure.

    But why does this happen? To start with, software development is a complex science and this is why nearly every game and software company on the planet is continually challenged and often frustrated in the pursuit of software perfection. Windows Service Packs, multiple iPhone O/S and application updates, etc. You get the picture...

    Now let's consider video games. Sports games are some of the most complex video games in existence today, and I'd argue that the logic and sophistication of football rivals them all. The real-world game of college football is complicated enough with its massive and constantly evolving rulebook, schedules, and even conference realignments*. Now try to imagine the complexity of a video game in full HD running at 60 frames-per-second while attempting to mimic not only visual photorealism in 5.1 stereo but believable simulated behavior of 22 individual players, refs, coaching staff, broadcasters, and fans. And now connect that same experience to hundreds of thousands of players through a broad array of servers and databases across the country all in real-time over a far-less-than-perfect Internet. This is also why features that seemed almost trivial in the last generation of consoles, seem to be advancing slower with this new generation. Hardware, connectivity, and the scale of "HD" just make everything much more complex to properly develop and execute. To give you some perspective, the NCAA Football 11 codebase contains more than 10 million lines of source code and script combined with over 350 gigabytes of graphics, sound, and data files. This all then gets compiled, compressed, and packaged into what you'll find on your game disk.

    Over the past year we logged tens-of-thousands of hours of QA on the game in addition to tens-of-thousands of hours more in scripted game testing through networks of automated game consoles here at the studio. And even for all that testing, anomalies, exploits, and bugs can still happen. Consider that within days of game launch, more than 1,000,000 games will be played - more games than can be possibly exercised by an army of testers in a single year.

    This isn't an excuse for not getting things right the first time, but I did want to provide some context. Sometimes the problems are edge-cases; sometimes it's an issue of massive online scale that can't be reproduced in a lab, or simply plain old human error. But when problems are discovered please know that we as developers, and true longtime fans of the game, also share your frustration. We take bugs very seriously. Our number one goal is to always deliver the highest quality and most enjoyable game of simulated college football possible. Which brings me to the last unannounced feature you'll find in NCAA Football 11... One way in which we've been working to improve the game experience for everyone this year.

    NEW FOR NCAA FOOTBALL 11 -- LIVE TUNING PACKAGES

    A number of you have already noticed that we do a check for "Online Gameplay Tuning" when connecting to our online servers. Some of you may also have found a new "Tuning" category in the Files menu. This is a new technology for NCAA Football 11 that allows us to not only live update and tune core gameplay parameters -- like fumbles, throw accuracy, and juke success ratings -- but it also allows us to rebalance certain core features such as recruiting logic, blocking, even control the intensity of shadows cast by the football on a sunny day!

    These new Live Tuning Packages (LTPs) contain literally 1000's of key parameters which drive the heart of our game; parameters that live well below the level of specific player or team ratings. With our new LTPs we can often turn changes around in a few days. It can't solve everything, and some issues will still require a traditional client update, but for many items it's definitely a more powerful and faster strategy for tuning throughout the season.

    Our first LTP should be arriving next week along with detailed notes on what the update contains. I can tell you that based on the collective feedback we've received, we will be carefully down-tuning the athleticism of defensive lineman and reduce the number of impressive picks by the big guys. We're also looking to address a few important dynasty progression and recruiting issues.

    NCAA FOOTBALL 11 ONLINE SERVER UPDATES

    The NCAA Football Live Team, a group dedicated to server-side health and maintenance, has been very busy over the last two weeks since launch. We apologize for any issues you may have experienced in recent days. The team has been upgrading hardware, tuning databases, and fixing web issues as they arise. Most of these changes happen behind-the-scenes on a daily and nightly basis. Here a few of the most visible fixes so far:

    -- Fixed online leaderboard exploit
    -- Fixed potential crash at online team-select screen
    -- Fixed post-game email formatting
    -- Optimized various database queries
    -- Various hardware upgrades and backend optimizations

    Work will continue on server optimizations throughout the season to ensure a fast and enjoyable online experience for everyone. We're also working to do a better job of communicating upcoming fixes and outages so that everyone has a better handle on what's happening. And by the way, just to dispel a common myth, if you have lag issues when playing an online opponent, it's unlikely to be an EA Server issue. Our matchmaking system works by telling your consoles to directly connect to each other for the game and then report back the results. The network traffic doesn't go through our servers like an MMO. If you have problems or disconnects, it could be your ISP, local networking gear, or simply someone unhappy about the way the game is going and pulling the cord. It happens. ;-)

    NCAA FOOTBALL 11 CLIENT UPDATE 2

    More details on the client update to come, but here are three of the big ones we've solved:

    -- RANDOM PLAY ACTION CRAZINESS - Sure it looks funny, but annoying as heck when it costs you a drive or a game. We're sorry we missed this one as well and apologize for the issue.

    -- SEASON SHOWDOWN STATS REPORTING - The season showdown warning is harmless right now and this issue and related lobby problems ultimately get fixed with the update.

    -- UNIFORMS THAT NEVER NEED WASHING - This is one of the more painful ones for us given all the work on visuals this year. The game actually does degrade uniforms; unfortunately we broke something in a final build that made the impact way too subtle. Consider this one solved with the update. And we want you to know that we've really been enjoying the great "Art of NCAA Football" threads. It's clear we have some incredible photographic talent in our community! So I expect things will go next-level when the update rolls out. For example, this shot comes straight out of the updated game:



    LOOKING AHEAD

    My apologies to longtime fans like ODogg who can't find peace without dreadlocks. ;-) Or others who've been aggressively petitioning for broadcast cameras or bowl patches. We just weren't able to get them into NCAA Football 11 given all the other work we had to take care of this year. And unfortunately, these aren't things that we can simply "patch in". I can tell you they're on our wishlists as well and we hope to get to them in a future version. Look for a link to a new Satisfaction and Feature Request Survey in my next blog.

    Thanks again for the great support!

    Roy
    NCAA Football 11
    Executive Producer

    PS -- You can still email me at [email protected]. As always, given the incredible amount of email I get daily, I don't always have time to reply, but I do promise I'll read everything you send. Please keep it civil and spam free ;-)

    * Conference changes for next year's real-world NCAA College Football season didn't officially happen until after our game was completed and off to manufacturing.
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    • Pull n Pray
      Banned
      • Jul 2010
      • 109

      #122
      Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

      Originally posted by Frost33
      I did read it, and here is the line that ultimately confused me about the whole "LTPs"

      "We're also looking to address a few important dynasty progression and recruiting issues."

      If LTPs do this as you pointed out my reading missed, why the need for this sentience?
      In that sentence, he is talking about the LTP that will be released next week.

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      • Pull n Pray
        Banned
        • Jul 2010
        • 109

        #123
        Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

        I guess now with the tuner sets they don't have to wait for MS/Sony to approve it. So those rumors we were hearing about a fix being imminent were correct. Great news!

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        • I Peench
          Pro
          • May 2008
          • 762

          #124
          Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

          I'm wondering if they will actually fix recruits themselves, rather than JUST progression. Remains to be seen I suppose.

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          • UMDDogs
            Pro
            • Dec 2002
            • 981

            #125
            Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

            Do you guys think we can play out the rest of our season and recruit now and when the tuner set comes out we will be good to go?

            Thanks,

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            • NaptownMVP
              Banned
              • May 2008
              • 292

              #126
              Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

              Originally posted by UMDDogs
              Do you guys think we can play out the rest of our season and recruit now and when the tuner set comes out we will be good to go?

              Thanks,
              Just don't go past the bowl week.

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              • jimmyy201
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 304

                #127
                Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

                Originally posted by UMDDogs
                Do you guys think we can play out the rest of our season and recruit now and when the tuner set comes out we will be good to go?

                Thanks,
                I believe the recruits are created at the beginning of the season so if you're wanting to wait for them to fix the low overall recruits it would not fix the ones you are currently recruiting just the ones for the following season.

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                • Rashad19
                  Pro
                  • May 2008
                  • 525

                  #128
                  Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

                  Great news! Awesome job NCAA development team, I cannot get over what a turnaround this series has made in one year!

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                  • brza37
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 748

                    #129
                    So are the progression problems that Chris mentioned in his write-up something that can/will be fixed in a patch?

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                    • LambertandHam
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                      • Jul 2010
                      • 8008

                      #130
                      Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

                      Originally posted by brza37
                      So are the progression problems that Chris mentioned in his write-up something that can/will be fixed in a patch?
                      It depends how they want to fix it. I'm not sure if they can up the ratings for all classes of recruits via tuners, so we might just see an uptick in progression. From Chris's thread it seems the big stat messing up a lot of the ratings is awareness, coupled with WR's only being able to run a straight line.
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                      • acreyman
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                        • Oct 2008
                        • 369

                        #131
                        Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

                        Everything sounds great but I do have one concern. I am a slider junkie and I have found one that I like ALOT. Now with this "tuner" stuff I have a feeling it will throw off my sliders and I will have to readjust everthing.

                        What I hope is, that the Tuner for the progression is on one file, while the tuner for the gameplay is on another. That way I can choose to DL the gameplay tuner if I want. Definately looking forward to the pregression tuner for sure, and if I have to tweak my sliders then so be it I guess.

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                        • dalecooper
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                          • Jun 2003
                          • 490

                          #132
                          Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

                          Originally posted by acreyman
                          Everything sounds great but I do have one concern. I am a slider junkie and I have found one that I like ALOT. Now with this "tuner" stuff I have a feeling it will throw off my sliders and I will have to readjust everthing.

                          What I hope is, that the Tuner for the progression is on one file, while the tuner for the gameplay is on another. That way I can choose to DL the gameplay tuner if I want. Definately looking forward to the pregression tuner for sure, and if I have to tweak my sliders then so be it I guess.
                          I could be wrong but it doesn't sound like the stuff they're talking about tweaking this time out will affect the conventional sliders and gameplay much. The couple of things they mentioned sound like occasional annoyances rather than something we've been adjusting sliders for. Now I'd like to see tuners (or a patch, or whatever) that eases off the sticky man coverage, and THAT would require some slider adjustments afterward, but I doubt that this first tuner set will impact you much.

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                          • celtic78
                            Banned
                            • May 2004
                            • 439

                            #133
                            Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

                            Originally posted by statum71
                            Yessss. I hope the Notre Dame not number or name issue is in this patch.
                            what issue? i just got the game today and not sure what the bug is...

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                            • Deegeezy
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5265

                              #134
                              Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

                              Originally posted by celtic78
                              what issue? i just got the game today and not sure what the bug is...
                              Apparently either by EA's choice or due to the game's functionality, any team who has uniforms that don't have last names on their jersey, the name does not show up underneath them during game play.
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                              • celtic78
                                Banned
                                • May 2004
                                • 439

                                #135
                                Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Update (EA Sports Blog)

                                oh okay thanks...

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