Madden NFL 11 Blog: GameFlow and The Strategy Pad

[roadman]

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I agree with this statement. I've been one of the pretty upset ones about this whole Strategy Pad thing. It's good to see that they took into account what their consumers had to say about their product.

Good Job, EA. Props for this one.

I agree, but no one should be questioning the stats they receive. Not saying you are, but just saying the stats are hard to ignore.

Also, I admit I was wrong about the reason why they implemented it. I'm not afraid to admit that against their stats.

[SteelerSpartan]

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Ahh, I can enjoy some new video game NFL football now


Good job on squashing this

[coogrfan]

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Excellent stuff. Ian's reasoning is beyond dispute, imo, but the fact that the old method will be available by the time the season starts speaks volumes about the Madden teams willingness to listen to the Grognards.

Gentlemen, I salute you.

[zav]

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Excellent stuff. Ian's reasoning is beyond dispute, imo, but the fact that the old method will be available by the time the season starts speaks volumes about the Madden teams willingness to listen to the Grognards.

Gentlemen, I salute you.

I too commend Ian on his reasoning. I ALWAYS had this problem in madden 09 and on occassion in Madden 10. it would happen so quickly i didnt realize it. i would hit A then next thing i know my DL was going back 40 yards in coverage then i had to start re-adjusting. I guesss itll take some getting used to but im OK with it

[Nelson9937955]

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It really sucks that I will have to wait an extra month to play the game when they release this strat pad FIX. I dont want to have to learn this nonsense and learn bad habits and then go back to the REAL way the game should be played when they fix it. That would really throw off my game.

At least they were smart enough to fix this stupid idea. I GUARANTEE this option never gets taken out again. What a silly silly idea...

[roadman]

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At least they were smart enough to fix this stupid idea

Maybe for you it was, but not based on their stats they provided it wasn't a "stupid idea."

For every decision made, good or bad, there is a decision process and they had the stats to back that up.

Man, be grateful they put it back in. That didn't need to put it back in, but they did.

[BlueNGold]

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Hopefully the overdone bitching can stop now (i.e. "I'm not buying the game because of strategy pad!").

Good to see that we're going to get both options but I'm slowly starting to get used to the pad anyways.

I just want to know why this change was kept so quiet that when the demo dropped all hell broke loose

It was in tons of previews and if you watched any of the videos you could see it there too. There was no "surprise" with the strategy pad. Well actually, I was surprised they didn't add the ability to shade inside/outside, designate only certain DBs to press and being able to make pre-snap hot routes without having to control a specific player (similar to last-gen Madden and 2K football) but that's another issue altogether.

so on a side note...

when using the new strategy pad I still don't know how to:

1. double a WR
2. assign a blitz to a defender
3. take a route and turn it into a smart route ( a route that takes me beyond a 1st down marker)

any help would be great?

thanks

1. Select the safety/DB you want to help double the WR. Press down, down and right stick right (I think). Then press the button of the WR you want to double.

2. Press down, down to go into hot routes. After that I'm not sure which direction you press to get a blitz. I'd have to look at the game.

3. Press up, up, button of the receiver and click the right stick.

[SeventhWard]

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I am VERY pleased with Tiburon's decision to give the player the choice to use Strategy Pad or Legacy Buttons.

While I found the learning curve for Strategy Pad to be a little steeper than I enjoy - I found myself slowly adjusting to it, although the design was still awkward. Kudos for listening to the fans.

Please continue to give us CHOICE and OPTIONS. I like when new things are added - but I always like it better when those things come with an OFF switch.

-SeventhWard

[Reaman]

No problems with the change as of now, it just will take some time to get used to it for me.

[2krunk4u]

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I agree, but no one should be questioning the stats they receive. Not saying you are, but just saying the stats are hard to ignore.

Also, I admit I was wrong about the reason why they implemented it. I'm not afraid to admit that against their stats.

I feel you. I wanted to see what they had to say about the reasoning as well. You cannot argue statistics.

I've been stuck in playmaker before, but square+L2 always cancels an audible. I know this, but I can see how somebody not used to the game would not know this.

It all goes back to hardcore vs. casual Madden gamers. In this case, EA is doing the right thing by giving the option to use either one.

I would love to know what the online default would be, or if the option will be locked into our personal settings.

[ttmatt]

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The fact that we are gonna get the option to go back to the regular way is the best news I've heard all week. I understand now why they made the change and the data they have gathered is very telling. As devs, they are concerned about people hitting the wrong buttons and then not being able to back out of it. For me, I think its reasonable for people to learn how to play a game before they pick up a controller and start mashing random buttons. The devs should include a detailed manual or an in depth training mode for the new guys because there is a lot of stuff to learn.

I'm surprised so many people are using Gameflow. I intended to play my first game on the demo with it since its the big new thing. I managed to make it through the first quarter and then I just couldn't handle it anymore. I feel much more comfortable calling my own plays. The best part of Gameflow is the fact that I can turn it off. As long as they give us options with these new features, everybody is happy. Thanks for listening.

[Flamehead]

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I for one am indifferent regarding the strategy pad. I'll probably be one of the few that don't mind it and will use it. Props to them for giving options though. Options are always good. Always.

However, the first paragraph regarding gameflow is a tad misleading IMHO. I highly suspect that the high numbers they quote are because people are trying it out, not an all out sign they love it--this is the demo after all.

Perhaps their telemetry from the retail game will prove the same, but on a demo where people are trying it for the first time is not exactly proof-positive of anything.

[xX CASCABEL Xx]

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reminds me of Burger King...

[nba2012]

im glad there making it a option that can be enabled/disabled and not taking it out the game because im one of the few people who like the strategy pad ....

[iamgramps]

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I wish they would have addressed the default setting for online, regarding the strategy pad.