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  • GlennN
    MVP
    • Oct 2003
    • 1930

    #61
    Originally posted by wEEman33
    If anyone is going out to buy this game because of the patch, I'd hope you show the devs your support by buying the game new.

    Reason being, Natural Motion, like all game companies, don't see a dime from used game sales.

    I'm pretty sure Backbreaker retails for $40 new these days, so you are already saving $20 off the normal price for most sports games.

    This game was well-worth $40 before the patch, and it should only be that much better after it.

    BUY NEW, NOT USED!
    I'm with him. Buying new, if you have not already purchased, will help support the developer and publisher. Let's reward a team that responds so well to feedback of the community. Support will also make the liklihood of BB2 reaching completion much better.

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    • fldash
      Banned
      • Dec 2008
      • 449

      #62
      Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

      Originally posted by FlyingFinn
      For all you PC Editor fans, this may shut us down:

      Online Gameplay

      • Reduced online lag slightly
      Built in a new protection system against people hacking the game to create a “super team” and taking it online
      • Removed the Cancel Stats Posting option as reported by the forum. People were abusing this to avoid losses showing up in their profile
      • Fixed a number of other stat posting related issues
      This shouldn't affect offline anything, only teams with super high ratings will either be handicapped or flat out not usable online.

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      • Phobia
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jan 2008
        • 11633

        #63
        Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

        Originally posted by AlphaTrojan
        Here are a few videos of the patch, courtesy of Apex.



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        I HATE hearing that cat talk. He makes good points about alot of stuff. But is totally out in left field on others.

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        • K_GUN
          C*t*z*n *f RSN
          • Jul 2002
          • 3892

          #64
          Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

          i tried the demo...didn't care for it...mainly because of the passing game

          will certainly watch this with great interest in the next few weeks though

          kudos to the BB team!
          Bummed that you're not on my ignore list yet?.....Don't worry, I'm sure you will be very soon.

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          • elgreazy1
            MVP
            • Apr 2007
            • 2999

            #65
            Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

            Slightly sad to see everyone all of a sudden supporting this game after trashing it so much at it's release, but at least it's getting some support... finally.

            So when does this drop?
            Last edited by elgreazy1; 08-02-2010, 01:51 PM.
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            • Blitzburgh
              Pro
              • Sep 2003
              • 793

              #66
              This is Awesome! I was really hoping for this game to improve via a patch because the other game doesn't have my interest this year! I hope to see a pick of the new offensive camera. That be a huge plus for me! Great job!

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              • Epiffani
                Supporter
                • Aug 2008
                • 331

                #67
                Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                Originally posted by elgreazy1
                Slightly sad to see everyone all of a sudden supporting this game after trashing it so much at it's release, but at least it's getting some support... finally.
                Does something like that matter in the grand scheme of things? The fact is there were plenty of reasons to be sour on this game, and now Natural Motion/505 is releasing a patch to rectify some of those problems, and make it more enjoyable for everyone who plays the game. If anything, the "sudden support" speaks to how people do want this game to be good and succeed at the same time.

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                • Blitzburgh
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 793

                  #68
                  So when does this patch drop? Did they say at all?

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                  • mestevo
                    Gooney Goo Goo
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 19658

                    #69
                    Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                    Originally posted by elgreazy1
                    Slightly sad to see everyone all of a sudden supporting this game after trashing it so much at it's release, but at least it's getting some support... finally.

                    So when does this drop?
                    I'm kinda wary of some of the changes (delay of game not stopping the clock for example) but for the most part am reserving judgement until after the patch is released.

                    It's certainly a great effort and they deserve credit for it, we'll see how it pans out.

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                    • Charleston_Tiger
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 203

                      #70
                      Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                      Originally posted by Phobia
                      I HATE hearing that cat talk. He makes good points about alot of stuff. But is totally out in left field on others.
                      I agree I dk if it is his accent or what but he just sounds ignorant or slow. I enjoy his vids but they can be hard to listen to at times.

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                      • LingeringRegime
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 17101

                        #71
                        Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                        Originally posted by Blitzburgh
                        So when does this patch drop? Did they say at all?
                        It is in Sony and MS court now. That is good for you XBOX guys. Bad for us, I'm afraid.

                        Hopefully, everyone will have it at week's end.
                        Last edited by LingeringRegime; 08-02-2010, 02:06 PM.

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                        • Charleston_Tiger
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 203

                          #72
                          Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                          Originally posted by Blitzburgh
                          So when does this patch drop? Did they say at all?

                          The patch is in Sony/MS hands they will let us know when they have a better idea from those guys.

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                          • Kaanyr Vhok
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 2248

                            #73
                            Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                            The Patch has more new features than EA's Triple Play baseball did as a series. MLB 2k10 couldn't even give us errors and look and that patch.

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                            • warriorbear
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 52

                              #74
                              Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                              I wonder if this will be the first time that we see the people that bought into Playstation Plus get the patch at the same time as Live or will it be a situation that Live still get it first due to it's process and PS3 still has to wait a bit... I'm sure if that is the case NM/505 will not be very happy about that, but what can ya do.

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                              • mvb34
                                S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 8139

                                #75
                                Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                                Originally posted by coolbreez35


                                Over the past few months, the team at NaturalMotion Games has been talking with the community and listening to all of their ideas for Backbreaker. We’ve taken it all on board and, as you know, we’ve been working hard on an update. As a tribute to the Backbreaker forums’ favourite player, we’re naming this update “Greathouse” and it does a whole lot more than simply tweak a few things here and there. We’re very nearly done and now we want to share with you exactly what “Greathouse” will bring to Backbreaker.

                                One final thing. We take great delight from seeing all your videos and we’re humbled by your support and enthusiasm. If you’ve seen something uniquely amazing in Backbreaker that made you smile, laugh, point, call a friend or rub your eyes in amazement, then you ‘get’ Backbreaker… and we’ve made this game, and “Greathouse”, for you.

                                Key Additions

                                Brand new replay camera suite

                                • New free-flight camera
                                • Sideline and Endzone cameras including ball lock, pan and tele-zoom function
                                • A player-centric camera including zoom and rotation function. Track any player on either team.
                                • Ball camera including zoom and rotate
                                • Complete replay suite functionality added to Tackle Alley
                                • Added pause/play to all replay cameras for greater footage control
                                • Added ability to remove OSD for clean footage capture

                                Offensive Gameplay Camera

                                • The Quarterback camera has been pulled back and raised a little. This still keeps the feeling of being down in the action, but provides a slightly wider view and vision over the line
                                • Added a ‘glance’ button which allows you to instantly check your blind-side

                                Expanded Playbook

                                An Extra 59 Offensive plays consisting of these formations:
                                • Ace – Double Tight End
                                • Spread – 4 Wide
                                • Bunch – Bunch right
                                • Empty – 5 WR!!
                                • T-form – Old fashioned power football, 3 running backs in the backfield

                                An Extra 51 Defensive plays have been included consisting of these formations:
                                • 44 – 4 Defensive linemen, 4 linebackers.
                                • 46 – Traditional old school defense born of Buddy Ryan
                                • 33 – Nickel package with 3 defensive linemen and 3 linebackers
                                • 3 Deep – 7 defensive backs package with 3 deep across the back.

                                Gameplay Enhancements

                                Improved Passing Game & Reduced Interception Frequency

                                Following valuable feedback from reviews and Backbreaker forums, we rewrote elements of the AI that will help make passing a more effective way to gain yards.

                                Here is a summary of the changes:

                                • We’ve improved the O-Line for teams throughout the game. This will give you longer in the pocket to make your reads correctly and go through your progression
                                • We’ve increased the passing animation speed and increased the minimum distance where a long windup will be required. You will now be able to execute the pass more quickly and hit your target more effectively
                                • There were too many dropped passes to the flats. We’ve introduced a new pass classification for these simple passes and have ramped up the accuracy of the QB when performing this type of pass
                                • The accuracy of QBs has been increased across the board
                                • Defensive Backs now fully respect their visibility cone, only seeing interception opportunities when appropriate. The DBs will continue with the assigned role until the either “see” the need to change, or “hear” the need to change, which is typically about 1-2 seconds after the snap
                                • We’ve tweaked the amount your QB will lead a receiver when activated
                                • Moved pump fake to shoulder button to make lob passes easier to execute
                                • Improved mechanism for Quarterback scanning the field
                                • Reduced penalty applied for throwing out of focus mode

                                User Interceptions and User Controlled Catching

                                • Following community feedback, the user is now given full control over interception attempts when controlling a defensive player. Interception attempts are made by holding the left trigger (focus mode), ie. by actively looking towards the ball as it comes in
                                • Wide Receiver catching in now also uses this mechanic (i.e. hold left trigger when ball is approaching)
                                • To signal an incoming ball, the user-controlled WR will be highlighted red when targeted by the QB

                                QB AI Logic

                                The QB AI has received a major overhaul. Firstly, the opposition QB will now recognise double coverage better. He is also more likely to throw the ball away rather than risk a throw / take a sack. This results in fewer AI interceptions and sacks. We’ve also reworked the QB receiver selection logic and increased prioritisation of throwing to the primary.

                                Improved Pocket Protection

                                Following numerous tweaks, the pocket is more solid. Pocket time now averages around 5 seconds and is all linked to the players’ attributes.

                                Show and Hide Blitz

                                New ability to show and hide blitz, pre-snap , by pressing the shoulder button.

                                Jukes and spins

                                The animation speed of these has been increased and better linked to a player’s agility attribute.

                                Improved AI Time Management, Audibles and Play-calling

                                Sophistication of play selection, audibles and timeouts has been improved. Additionally, the AI is more likely to flip their selected play depending on the situation.

                                Opposition AI

                                This has been given an overhaul and you should find your opponent much more of a threat. We’ve also rebalanced Easy, Medium and Hard settings to be more challenging and linked almost all AI decisions/speeds to their attributes. Also, you should be aware that all of the notes relating to AI, animation and behaviours above will apply to your opponent as well. These are game-wide changes.

                                New RB Focus Mode

                                When holding the left trigger, the camera will turn upfield when the RB is heading towards the sidelines. This is NOT automatic – you need to press the hold the trigger to manually glance upfield.

                                Stumble Mechanic

                                We have added a stumble recovery mechanic for when your player has been knocked off course. To recover from a stumble, just press the Action button as quickly as possible.

                                Fumbles

                                • Fumbles are now more likely to happen for non-QB players.
                                • Passes backwards are now classified as fumbles (respecting QB arm movement direction)
                                • Catches bobbled / dropped within 2 steps as a result of a tackle are marked as incomplete passes rather than fumbles (player deemed not in control of ball)
                                Bug Fixes & Other High Priority Issues

                                Friendly Fire!

                                Your players occasionally reacted too strongly to friendly physical impact. This happened especially when controlling a RB/FB and clashing with your line. We’ve dialled that back, which should make your running game more effective. Players will still react to the collision but will be less likely to be knocked down

                                Penalties

                                Users have been reporting a multitude of penalty issues. We have done a comprehensive review of all penalty complaints and bugs (including the infamous roughing-the-kicker) and have been able to resolve them. We believe you will find this drastically improves the quality of the game.

                                Online Gameplay

                                • Reduced online lag slightly
                                • Built in a new protection system against people hacking the game to create a “super team” and taking it online
                                • Removed the Cancel Stats Posting option as reported by the forum. People were abusing this to avoid losses showing up in their profile
                                • Fixed a number of other stat posting related issues

                                D-Line

                                • Users playing as part of the D-Line were experiencing a slower-than-desired speed in getting off the mark due to a delay in input control. This has been solved
                                • Users playing D-line can now bat the ball (pull down on the right-stick)
                                • Spins, rips and swims are now more effective to help you get that sack

                                Too much Boom!

                                Stopped “Boom” playing every kickoff. It now only occurs at the start of each half. Yay!

                                Team Ratings

                                Offense, Defensive and Overall ratings for teams have been recalculated and now more accurately reflect the quality of the team if all the best players are on the field.

                                Play Exploits

                                Thanks to feedback from the forums we have put tweaks in place to prevent exploits on the following:
                                • RB spinning through the line
                                • QB sneak
                                • FG block
                                • Punt block
                                • Nanoblitz

                                Rule Fixes

                                • Players must take 2 steps before they gain possession of a caught ball
                                • Tipped punts and kick-offs that touch receiving team players and subsequently go out the back of the endzone no longer cause safeties (just touchbacks).
                                • Intentional Grounding penalty now causes a loss of down.
                                • Scrimmage kicks (punts/field goals) can only be returned by the kicking team if blocked before the line of scrimmage
                                • Two Minute Warning will only stop the game clock after the play has ended.
                                • Defensive/Offensive Pass interference rules are turned off when the ball touches a player.
                                • Pre-snap penalties (Encroachment, Delay of Game, False Start) no longer stop the game clock.
                                • Touchbacks and Safeties are determined by whoever intentionally touched the ball last, instead of whoever physically touched it last.
                                • Failed field goals restart at the 20 yard line or the point the ball was kicked from (used to be from the 20 yard line or the previous LoS).
                                • Improved Pass Interference detection.
                                • Defensive Holding rule now active during punts.
                                • Game clock is only stopped by a penalty if it is within the last 2 minutes of the first half, or the last 5 minutes of the second half.
                                • No longer declaring a pass as incomplete if a player catches it in the air with their feet out of bounds (the feet must be grounded).
                                • Fumbles on a 4th down, or within the Two Minute Warning, can only be advanced by the Defense or by the player who fumbled the ball.
                                • Improved the "ball carrier" logic.
                                • Now awarding a touchback when the punting team catches a non-live ball in the opponent’s endzone
                                • A ball is only considered blocked/batted if it changes the impetus of the ball.
                                • Intercepting the ball before your own endzone but being carried into the endzone with momentum will now give a touchback instead of a safety.
                                • If a QB fumbles a ball while in the motion of throwing (i.e. hands moving forwards), then this is now considered a forward pass.
                                • Ineligible receiver downfield during a pass down penalty now excludes tight ends.

                                All this and still no fatigue or injuries... Oh well this good for those of you who love this game. Its too late for me it won't crack my game play rotation but I think the percenatge of BB2 is gone up a bit..
                                http://www.twitch.tv/mikecharles34

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