Cryofax's OHPC Slider Set

**sl0ppywffls** · 07-31-2010, 02:55 PM

Re: Cryofax's OHPC Slider Set

CPU Rushing is on point now and you could even afford to bump it up a bit more IMO. The only problems i see is that human rushing is now extremely difficult now. I think this is how it felt for CPU rushers on default sliders. In the 3 games i played i only broke 3 or 4 runs for more than 10 yards playing with big ten teams but that's just my opinion on the matter. I also think passing is wayyy to easy now and i feel like its going to be a major problem and abused by some players by just scrambling everywhere until somebody gets open (which works now, at least with the teams i played with). With the bigger teams in the major BCS conferences (haven't tried teams like utah state for ex.) its just way to easy to pass the ball against them in my opinion. I get how lame it is for the CPU DBs to run in front of your wide outs routes, but now i think its just a little too easy to complete passes. I think CPU pass def should be toned up to maybe 35 at least and i know you left pass rush/blocking alone now but both sides could use a little more pressure on the qbs

This is all my opinion, but great job on the sliders especially the cpu rushing now and i actually saw 2 def pass interference calls as well! Penalties are perf. Games definetely do seem and feel more realistic especially with the slow setting and speed threshold improvements

Question though. Did you use these sliders for your BYU game you just played?

**Cryofax** · 07-31-2010, 03:12 PM

Re: Cryofax's OHPC Slider Set

Originally posted by sl0ppywffls

CPU Rushing is on point now and you could even afford to bump it up a bit more IMO.

We'll take a look at the running game stats for the CPU in week 6. I agree its very possible the CPU will receive a little more running game boost.

Originally posted by sl0ppywffls

The only problems i see is that human rushing is now extremely difficult now. I think this is how it felt for CPU rushers on default sliders. In the 3 games i played i only broke 3 or 4 runs for more than 10 yards playing with big ten teams but that's just my opinion on the matter.

I broke two long TD runs in one game against USC, but it was mostly "3-yards in a cloud of dust". We'll collect week 6 data and go from there.

Originally posted by sl0ppywffls

I also think passing is wayyy to easy now and i feel like its going to be a major problem and abused by some players by just scrambling everywhere until somebody gets open (which works now, at least with the teams i played with). With the bigger teams in the major BCS conferences (haven't tried teams like utah state for ex.) its just way to easy to pass the ball against them in my opinion. I get how lame it is for the CPU DBs to run in front of your wide outs routes, but now i think its just a little too easy to complete passes. I think CPU pass def should be toned up to maybe 35 at least and i know you left pass rush/blocking alone now but both sides could use a little more pressure on the qbs

This was also my concern (passing would be too easy) but I hoped the QB accuracy decrease coupled with a harder human running game and better CPU offense would offset it some. I already feel pressured when I play heh, but I think pumping up the CPU pass defense could work (maybe 35-40). I want to try 25 for one week though. It seemed to me like that was the exact point where the defenders stopped running routes for the WRs. But I could be wrong.

Originally posted by sl0ppywffls

This is all my opinion, but great job on the sliders especially the cpu rushing now and i actually saw 2 def pass interference calls as well! Penalties are perf. Games definetely do seem and feel more realistic especially with the slow setting and speed threshold improvements

Question though. Did you use these sliders for your BYU game you just played?

No, those don't go into effect until week 6. That game is an example of why we needed better sliders. As thrilling a game as it was, there's no way D+ Utah State should hold BYU to 3 points. And yeah I find the speed/threshold to be spot on.

**Cryofax** · 08-02-2010, 01:18 AM

Re: Cryofax's OHPC Slider Set

This slider's initial settings were pretty solid except for a few areas I have tweaked for week 8 of our dynasty.

Firstly some complained the RB was too hard to tackle. I am lowering CPU RB ability form 65 to 60, while upping CPU run blocking from 65 to 70. I am also raising human rush defense from 35 to 40.

I am raising both Human and CPU QB accuracy from 35 to 40. I am still on the fence about the Human/CPU pass defense at 25, but so far it feels pretty good.

Lastly human rushing was just a touch too hard, so I am raising human run blocking from 35 to 40, while lowering CPU rush defense from 65 to 60.

**sl0ppywffls** · 08-02-2010, 10:17 AM

Re: Cryofax's OHPC Slider Set

Does anyone notice sliders seem to play different in dynasty than in play now? The pass coverage seemed to be better in dynasty than play now and was the perfect amount i thought.

The only thing that concerns me is that i think every team outrushed their opponent in last weeks game if u look at the stats except maybe temple (but they threw for like 250 yards through the air) but you upped cpu run block so we'll see but these sliders are much better than the default

**Cryofax** · 08-02-2010, 01:55 PM

Re: Cryofax's OHPC Slider Set

Originally posted by sl0ppywffls

Does anyone notice sliders seem to play different in dynasty than in play now? The pass coverage seemed to be better in dynasty than play now and was the perfect amount i thought.

The only thing that concerns me is that i think every team outrushed their opponent in last weeks game if u look at the stats except maybe temple (but they threw for like 250 yards through the air) but you upped cpu run block so we'll see but these sliders are much better than the default

The goal is to pump the CPU's running game in a way people find acceptable. Having him break too many tackles is frustrating so I've lowered the RB ability to 60. Although I really don't think it's going lower, I like that the CPU back has some skills. CPU run blocking may go a tick higher if needed. We'll see this coming week. The team rushing average can be misleading, you really need to look at the individual stats of the CPU's running backs, most of which showed marked improvement.

Not sure about the PlayNow vs Dynasty difference.

**Cryofax** · 08-05-2010, 03:21 AM

Re: Cryofax's OHPC Slider Set

Continuing to tweak these with the help of the great guys in the dynasty. Looking for the right balance. It's interesting how sliders interact. If it's too hard to stop the CPU offense you'll get less possessions of your own, which in turn ends up making your own offense more difficult as your scoring chances become more important.

In this last adjustment I lowered CPU RB ability to 55 and raised CPU blocking to 75, putting the emphasis on improving the CPU running game shifted more toward their blocking than breaking tackles. I am still inclined to leave CPU RB ability at 60 but yards after 1st hit may be a tad high. It all depends on how you want the CPU to get it's yards. Do you prefer having to gang tackle more often, or having your players suctioned by the CPU's blockers more often? Human run defense was increased to 45.

I increased pass defense for both the CPU and Human side to 30, which still alleviates the psychic defenders but makes it a bit harder to pass.

Human run blocking was turned up to 45 while CPU run defense was turned down to 55.

These latest adjustments should keeps things challenging and address a few points brought up by the members. This probably isn't the final set just yet but we're very close now.

**rebelins313** · 08-05-2010, 04:09 AM

Re: Cryofax's OHPC Slider Set

Some observations of playing with these sliders along with others is that I think you should decrease HUM QB Accuracy and SLIGHTLY decrease HUM WR Catching. The passing game is a little too easy. I can also understand why some people don't like the running game for the CPU as it does turn them into quite the runners but it doesn't bother me nearly as much. Tons of teams don't use run heavy offenses in college football so I think it will be fewer and far between than say a balanced attack or a heavy passing game.

**Cryofax** · 08-05-2010, 01:48 PM

Re: Cryofax's OHPC Slider Set

Originally posted by rebelins313

Some observations of playing with these sliders along with others is that I think you should decrease HUM QB Accuracy and SLIGHTLY decrease HUM WR Catching. The passing game is a little too easy. I can also understand why some people don't like the running game for the CPU as it does turn them into quite the runners but it doesn't bother me nearly as much. Tons of teams don't use run heavy offenses in college football so I think it will be fewer and far between than say a balanced attack or a heavy passing game.

I turned up human run defense to 45 from 40. Should help a little but as you say I think it's about right.

I am taking your advice and turning WR catch down to 60. And also turning Human and CPU pass defense up to 35. I noticed with QB accuracy at 35 (instead of 40) it seems like way too many balls get batted down or bounced off lineman's backs. I'm going to leave that at 40 at least for now.

**moneyofthedead** · 08-06-2010, 02:55 PM

Re: Cryofax's OHPC Slider Set

i want to play with these sliders.....

**Cryofax** · 08-08-2010, 01:17 AM

Re: Cryofax's OHPC Slider Set

Originally posted by moneyofthedead

i want to play with these sliders.....

Wish granted! :P

**Cryofax** · 08-08-2010, 02:20 PM

Re: Cryofax's OHPC Slider Set

Slider update... Waiting on stats from week 9. Made CPU and human passing a bit harder (WR catch -5, Pass defense +10 on both), Human running a little easier (CPU run defense -5) and CPU running a little harder (Human run defense +5). Last week's stats were very good but some fine tuning was needed. We might be at the final slider set for the dynasty at this point. Running looks nice with the CPU at a 3-4 ypc average. The CPU seems perhaps a bit too accurate passing, but he seems to offset that with INTs. Scores look very good for the most part. Other than passing accuracy for the CPU being a tad high I'm happy with these. I'm on the fence about any further reduction to his passing though. I'll give the current set some more time.

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