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  • warriorbear
    Rookie
    • Jul 2009
    • 52

    #76
    Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

    I wonder if this will be the first time that we see the people that bought into Playstation Plus get the patch at the same time as Live or will it be a situation that Live still get it first due to it's process and PS3 still has to wait a bit... I'm sure if that is the case NM/505 will not be very happy about that, but what can ya do.

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    • mvb34
      S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
      • Jul 2002
      • 8139

      #77
      Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

      Originally posted by coolbreez35


      Over the past few months, the team at NaturalMotion Games has been talking with the community and listening to all of their ideas for Backbreaker. We’ve taken it all on board and, as you know, we’ve been working hard on an update. As a tribute to the Backbreaker forums’ favourite player, we’re naming this update “Greathouse” and it does a whole lot more than simply tweak a few things here and there. We’re very nearly done and now we want to share with you exactly what “Greathouse” will bring to Backbreaker.

      One final thing. We take great delight from seeing all your videos and we’re humbled by your support and enthusiasm. If you’ve seen something uniquely amazing in Backbreaker that made you smile, laugh, point, call a friend or rub your eyes in amazement, then you ‘get’ Backbreaker… and we’ve made this game, and “Greathouse”, for you.

      Key Additions

      Brand new replay camera suite

      • New free-flight camera
      • Sideline and Endzone cameras including ball lock, pan and tele-zoom function
      • A player-centric camera including zoom and rotation function. Track any player on either team.
      • Ball camera including zoom and rotate
      • Complete replay suite functionality added to Tackle Alley
      • Added pause/play to all replay cameras for greater footage control
      • Added ability to remove OSD for clean footage capture

      Offensive Gameplay Camera

      • The Quarterback camera has been pulled back and raised a little. This still keeps the feeling of being down in the action, but provides a slightly wider view and vision over the line
      • Added a ‘glance’ button which allows you to instantly check your blind-side

      Expanded Playbook

      An Extra 59 Offensive plays consisting of these formations:
      • Ace – Double Tight End
      • Spread – 4 Wide
      • Bunch – Bunch right
      • Empty – 5 WR!!
      • T-form – Old fashioned power football, 3 running backs in the backfield

      An Extra 51 Defensive plays have been included consisting of these formations:
      • 44 – 4 Defensive linemen, 4 linebackers.
      • 46 – Traditional old school defense born of Buddy Ryan
      • 33 – Nickel package with 3 defensive linemen and 3 linebackers
      • 3 Deep – 7 defensive backs package with 3 deep across the back.

      Gameplay Enhancements

      Improved Passing Game & Reduced Interception Frequency

      Following valuable feedback from reviews and Backbreaker forums, we rewrote elements of the AI that will help make passing a more effective way to gain yards.

      Here is a summary of the changes:

      • We’ve improved the O-Line for teams throughout the game. This will give you longer in the pocket to make your reads correctly and go through your progression
      • We’ve increased the passing animation speed and increased the minimum distance where a long windup will be required. You will now be able to execute the pass more quickly and hit your target more effectively
      • There were too many dropped passes to the flats. We’ve introduced a new pass classification for these simple passes and have ramped up the accuracy of the QB when performing this type of pass
      • The accuracy of QBs has been increased across the board
      • Defensive Backs now fully respect their visibility cone, only seeing interception opportunities when appropriate. The DBs will continue with the assigned role until the either “see” the need to change, or “hear” the need to change, which is typically about 1-2 seconds after the snap
      • We’ve tweaked the amount your QB will lead a receiver when activated
      • Moved pump fake to shoulder button to make lob passes easier to execute
      • Improved mechanism for Quarterback scanning the field
      • Reduced penalty applied for throwing out of focus mode

      User Interceptions and User Controlled Catching

      • Following community feedback, the user is now given full control over interception attempts when controlling a defensive player. Interception attempts are made by holding the left trigger (focus mode), ie. by actively looking towards the ball as it comes in
      • Wide Receiver catching in now also uses this mechanic (i.e. hold left trigger when ball is approaching)
      • To signal an incoming ball, the user-controlled WR will be highlighted red when targeted by the QB

      QB AI Logic

      The QB AI has received a major overhaul. Firstly, the opposition QB will now recognise double coverage better. He is also more likely to throw the ball away rather than risk a throw / take a sack. This results in fewer AI interceptions and sacks. We’ve also reworked the QB receiver selection logic and increased prioritisation of throwing to the primary.

      Improved Pocket Protection

      Following numerous tweaks, the pocket is more solid. Pocket time now averages around 5 seconds and is all linked to the players’ attributes.

      Show and Hide Blitz

      New ability to show and hide blitz, pre-snap , by pressing the shoulder button.

      Jukes and spins

      The animation speed of these has been increased and better linked to a player’s agility attribute.

      Improved AI Time Management, Audibles and Play-calling

      Sophistication of play selection, audibles and timeouts has been improved. Additionally, the AI is more likely to flip their selected play depending on the situation.

      Opposition AI

      This has been given an overhaul and you should find your opponent much more of a threat. We’ve also rebalanced Easy, Medium and Hard settings to be more challenging and linked almost all AI decisions/speeds to their attributes. Also, you should be aware that all of the notes relating to AI, animation and behaviours above will apply to your opponent as well. These are game-wide changes.

      New RB Focus Mode

      When holding the left trigger, the camera will turn upfield when the RB is heading towards the sidelines. This is NOT automatic – you need to press the hold the trigger to manually glance upfield.

      Stumble Mechanic

      We have added a stumble recovery mechanic for when your player has been knocked off course. To recover from a stumble, just press the Action button as quickly as possible.

      Fumbles

      • Fumbles are now more likely to happen for non-QB players.
      • Passes backwards are now classified as fumbles (respecting QB arm movement direction)
      • Catches bobbled / dropped within 2 steps as a result of a tackle are marked as incomplete passes rather than fumbles (player deemed not in control of ball)
      Bug Fixes & Other High Priority Issues

      Friendly Fire!

      Your players occasionally reacted too strongly to friendly physical impact. This happened especially when controlling a RB/FB and clashing with your line. We’ve dialled that back, which should make your running game more effective. Players will still react to the collision but will be less likely to be knocked down

      Penalties

      Users have been reporting a multitude of penalty issues. We have done a comprehensive review of all penalty complaints and bugs (including the infamous roughing-the-kicker) and have been able to resolve them. We believe you will find this drastically improves the quality of the game.

      Online Gameplay

      • Reduced online lag slightly
      • Built in a new protection system against people hacking the game to create a “super team” and taking it online
      • Removed the Cancel Stats Posting option as reported by the forum. People were abusing this to avoid losses showing up in their profile
      • Fixed a number of other stat posting related issues

      D-Line

      • Users playing as part of the D-Line were experiencing a slower-than-desired speed in getting off the mark due to a delay in input control. This has been solved
      • Users playing D-line can now bat the ball (pull down on the right-stick)
      • Spins, rips and swims are now more effective to help you get that sack

      Too much Boom!

      Stopped “Boom” playing every kickoff. It now only occurs at the start of each half. Yay!

      Team Ratings

      Offense, Defensive and Overall ratings for teams have been recalculated and now more accurately reflect the quality of the team if all the best players are on the field.

      Play Exploits

      Thanks to feedback from the forums we have put tweaks in place to prevent exploits on the following:
      • RB spinning through the line
      • QB sneak
      • FG block
      • Punt block
      • Nanoblitz

      Rule Fixes

      • Players must take 2 steps before they gain possession of a caught ball
      • Tipped punts and kick-offs that touch receiving team players and subsequently go out the back of the endzone no longer cause safeties (just touchbacks).
      • Intentional Grounding penalty now causes a loss of down.
      • Scrimmage kicks (punts/field goals) can only be returned by the kicking team if blocked before the line of scrimmage
      • Two Minute Warning will only stop the game clock after the play has ended.
      • Defensive/Offensive Pass interference rules are turned off when the ball touches a player.
      • Pre-snap penalties (Encroachment, Delay of Game, False Start) no longer stop the game clock.
      • Touchbacks and Safeties are determined by whoever intentionally touched the ball last, instead of whoever physically touched it last.
      • Failed field goals restart at the 20 yard line or the point the ball was kicked from (used to be from the 20 yard line or the previous LoS).
      • Improved Pass Interference detection.
      • Defensive Holding rule now active during punts.
      • Game clock is only stopped by a penalty if it is within the last 2 minutes of the first half, or the last 5 minutes of the second half.
      • No longer declaring a pass as incomplete if a player catches it in the air with their feet out of bounds (the feet must be grounded).
      • Fumbles on a 4th down, or within the Two Minute Warning, can only be advanced by the Defense or by the player who fumbled the ball.
      • Improved the "ball carrier" logic.
      • Now awarding a touchback when the punting team catches a non-live ball in the opponent’s endzone
      • A ball is only considered blocked/batted if it changes the impetus of the ball.
      • Intercepting the ball before your own endzone but being carried into the endzone with momentum will now give a touchback instead of a safety.
      • If a QB fumbles a ball while in the motion of throwing (i.e. hands moving forwards), then this is now considered a forward pass.
      • Ineligible receiver downfield during a pass down penalty now excludes tight ends.

      All this and still no fatigue or injuries... Oh well this good for those of you who love this game. Its too late for me it won't crack my game play rotation but I think the percenatge of BB2 is gone up a bit..
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      • sois
        Banned
        • Nov 2007
        • 1910

        #78
        Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

        Originally posted by Charleston_Tiger
        I agree I dk if it is his accent or what but he just sounds ignorant or slow. I enjoy his vids but they can be hard to listen to at times.
        I love Apex. Always have. I guess I just like his type of humor.

        This patch looks amazing. Can't wait to start my RTBB again!

        PS: Go Clemson!

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        • Dramaking
          Rookie
          • Jun 2010
          • 79

          #79
          Originally posted by mvb34
          All this and still no fatigue or injuries... Oh well this good for those of you who love this game. Its too late for me it won't crack my game play rotation but I think the percenatge of BB2 is gone up a bit..
          cause there still any realistic way to add injuries and fatigue

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          • allBthere
            All Star
            • Jan 2008
            • 5858

            #80
            Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

            Originally posted by tomzenns
            is this the most extensive patch ever or what?
            I was thinking the same thing. I mean I just kept scrolling and scrolling and by the end of it was completely blown away. That's unprecedented for sure.

            I can't believe they were able to do all that. Awesome.

            edit; adding plays and Formations was a great surprise. I guess they could keep doing that into the future if they wanted too. I'd like to see qb roll-outs.
            Liquor in the front, poker in the rear.

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            • Dramaking
              Rookie
              • Jun 2010
              • 79

              #81
              Originally posted by Dramaking
              cause there still any realistic way to add injuries and fatigue
              that they know of, do ou have an idea

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              • 1WEiRDguy
                Rookie
                • Jun 2009
                • 166

                #82
                Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                man can people NOT post the same information 8 pages later that is on page one? and dont lie and say you didnt know it was there either.

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                • LingeringRegime
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 17105

                  #83
                  Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                  Originally posted by 1WEiRDguy
                  man can people NOT post the same information 8 pages later that is on page one? and dont lie and say you didnt know it was there either.
                  The information on page one was added because of the information posted throughout the thread. Thanks for the help though.

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                  • Charleston_Tiger
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 203

                    #84
                    Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                    Originally posted by Dramaking
                    that they know of, do ou have an idea
                    They said in development they wanted to add injuries but didnt want to do it in a half *** way (random roll system) that is used by most every other game. They wanted it to actually take into physics and taking into consideration the contact on certain limbs/joints. They unfortunately ran out of time. This will probably make it into BB2.... if there is one.

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                    • Panther84
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 359

                      #85
                      Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                      Sony can release the patch right away but microsoft has to review it first and that takes awhile sometimes a week!

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                      • DJ
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 17770

                        #86
                        Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                        Originally posted by wEEman33
                        If anyone is going out to buy this game because of the patch, I'd hope you show the devs your support by buying the game new.

                        Reason being, Natural Motion, like all game companies, don't see a dime from used game sales.

                        I'm pretty sure Backbreaker retails for $40 new these days, so you are already saving $20 off the normal price for most sports games.

                        This game was well-worth $40 before the patch, and it should only be that much better after it.

                        BUY NEW, NOT USED!
                        Agreed. I have not bought the game yet, but am going to do so now after reading the patch notes. I'm blown away by how much the developers listened to its community and worked so hard in such a short amount of time to re-vamp the game. I have some Reward Zone coupons to use up, and this will be the game I get as a result.

                        I think it's safe to say that every other sports game developer has been put on notice with this patch: Step your game up! Natural Motion really set the bar high in terms of post-release support with the amount of detail that has gone into this patch.
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                        MLB The Show 25 (PS5)

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                        • mestevo
                          Gooney Goo Goo
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 19654

                          #87
                          Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                          Originally posted by Panther84
                          Sony can release the patch right away but microsoft has to review it first and that takes awhile sometimes a week!
                          Sorry to break it to you, but Sony has a certification process too. You can leave the console wars out of this thread.

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                          • NoDakHusker
                            Ice Cold
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 4361

                            #88
                            Now this is a real patch. I can't believe I traded this in!! =( May have to go pick it up again IF everything works as they say.
                            Huskers | Chelsea FC | Minnesota United | Omaha

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                            • budsticky
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 794

                              #89
                              Re: Backbreaker Patch Details

                              Wow! That's a lot of stuff to put into a patch. I'm impressed at the level of commitment from the dev team. Personally, I don't see how a patch this large can come out so quickly and not introduce some other issues, but clearly this will make the game better. But either way, good job from the dev team being responsive and diving head first into your game to try and improve it...especially since this patch will not likely garner very much in the way of additional sales, especially with Madden coming out. Still though, you have made your current customer base very happy and have put yourselves in a stronger position if there is a Backbreaker 2.

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                              • Bodizzy
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 122

                                #90
                                I really cannot believe these guys are rolling out such an extensive patch. Kinda dwarfs anything EA or other devs release by miles.

                                I agree with those that say you should buy new. I'm eager to see how this plays post-patch and if the reviews are promising, I'm getting this thing new. Madden has lost me. NCAA is great (waiting for that patch as well), but to have a solid football playing experience w/ this engine is exciting.

                                BB2 could be the real deal.
                                "When you win, nothing hurts." -- Joe Namath

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