NCAA Football 11 Live Tuning Pack 1, Available Now

[sportyguyfl31]

thanks a bundle

[ghettoqball]

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I'm still concerned about how this will affect Madden draft classes. The talent still decreases over the years, and WRs still can't juke or spin. Are the draft classes going to be full of receivers that can't do anything to break tackles?

I don't even know if I'll buy Madden this year, but still, covering up the lack of WR moves by lowering CB tackling doesn't seem like the right way to go about fixing this...

[Purplepower_NC]

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After looking at default rosters....rating etc, I think the "tuner" is just for online dynastys. Teams still have WR at QB in depth chart, but has 4 other QB's DT at TE, you know the drill. Haven't checked into the recruiting yet, but so far..don't look good for us off-line dynastys. I hope I am wrong...could someone give me some info.

[Cpterp22]

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This is great news.. Did they fix the wacky depth chart issues or is that for the patch? Either way, I have a worked around for that

[mgoblue678]

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That's pretty darn cool.



Well put. I'd much rather it be this way than having freshman come in rated 85+. Then having to deal with a bunch of A+ overall teams later on. Just sayin...



I can't say that I agree here. I mean, sure some thing's may need to be tweaked. They always will. Because I have yet to see a perfect sports game. However, to say it needs a "total overhaul" is a bit of a stretch. Besides I think everything plays well on the field and that's what matter's the most. Well to me anyway.

I don't think anybody wants that or is anybody suggesting that. Really the 5* and 4* were fine for the most part even before the tuner. What some people want(including myself) is to get rid of most of the guys in the 40's and replace them with more guys in the 50's and 60's and to have some ratings be more balanced for certain positions like wide receiver. Could still be a very balanced distribution of teams even if those things were changed without A teams galore.

I am just getting annoyed that people are turning people's suggestions/arguments into something there not.

[Glenn33]

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I think we can all agree that this whole thing is a mess and this is barely a band aid, ratings/recruits/progression needs a total overhaul. It will not be acceptable for this to happen again next year. WR's with D- ratings in skill moves is not acceptable. I don't care why it is that way, just fix it. They should have NORMAL ratings with an average WR having a juke rating of C.

If this doesn't get fixed next year EA is going to find themselves in a deep hole when they finally try to dig out of it while fixing ratings/gameplay issues at some point down the line. The further this gets "band aided" the harder it will be for them to ever completely fix the problem and give us a better playing game.

I can't co -sign on this. I don't think it's a mess. Needs improvement - yes. But mess - absolutely NOT. And quite frankly - I didn't have much of an issue before. I thought the game played great.

[andicesharks]

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I don't think I understand what you want. Why is a 2 star prospect that comes in rated a 55 and leaves rated a 75 in 5 years bad? What do you want them to come in as?

55 is an alright score for a 2 star. giving them 20 progression over max 4 years is very generous as well. The odds of them hitting 5 each year is slim.

The biggest problem is the low rating on 3 stars and the existence of 1 stars.

1 stars are having time wasted on them when they are pretty much walk on sophomores. 3 stars are generally D players in the game. To me, 3 stars are your bread and butter players. They are not amazing but they are not worthless. Giving these players a 79-65 range seems like it would work best. as it is now, they are almost always in the low 60s and even have a chance at being in the mid 50s a decent amount of the time. I know "grading" is not really something you can put into black and white but a 50 is an F. Not even a D or a D-. If (average) C schools are to be made up of average players, that needs to be the case.

And if anyone is still reading this -- my posts and, I am sure for the most part, the others trying to do some calculations are grateful for the patch and not doing this just to complain. It is great that they are working on the problems, however, it is a process. If no one says 'this is a problem' or 'take a look at this maybe' then EA will not have any reason to fix anything. They will assume people are content.

[White Out]

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People need to stop bitching. It's embarrasing. The WR's skill running vs secondary tackling is balanced. Shut up. please. Stop haranging a non issue.

Thanks EA for not over reacting, and doing a slight bump. From the results people have posted, it was done perfectly. I will post my own results in the official progression thread later tonight.

Chill out people this is good stuff

[pokerplaya]

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If you look at the chart of Before/After LTP1 average OVR has gone up for most teams.

-Russ

He wasn't referring to the averages. He's talking about how the recruits dilute the talent pool. While the average OVR has indeed gone up, no teams in your test graph have improved on their overall from the initial season... You could realistically expect a program like LSU to get better sometime.

[canesfan4905]

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I think what everyone needs to realize is with the mid august patch and one more tuner set this game is gonna be really good. Perfect no but what sports game is. Be patient.

[Ramminyou]

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He wasn't referring to the averages. He's talking about how the recruits dilute the talent pool. While the average OVR has indeed gone up, no teams in your test graph have improved on their overall from the initial season... You could realistically expect a program like LSU to get better sometime.

Regressing less than the other guys seems to be the equivalent to a program getting better in the game. And I don't mean that as a knock, either.

[andicesharks]

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He wasn't referring to the averages. He's talking about how the recruits dilute the talent pool. While the average OVR has indeed gone up, no teams in your test graph have improved on their overall from the initial season... You could realistically expect a program like LSU to get better sometime.

I think that right there shows that there should be no real fear about boosting everything once again. The game was made to play best with the default rosters (and it does, its good) so all the numbers point to boosting it a bit more to keep them at that level.

He mentioned worry over the CPU getting too good but the figures posted to us show that that is not happening and will not happen even if they are boosted again. They will just match the current roster (which I think is good for the most part except for some of the 6 star teams).



I think the biggest flashing light to the problem is the FCS teams vs the D teams. If the D teams are constantly losing to the FCS teams a few years into the future then the progression is not quite right. FCS keep their default roster while everyone else regresses. This may not play into the actual user games but it plays a HUGE part in the DYNASTY experience. Seeing unrealistic things like FCS teams destroying FBS teams and constantly missed field gols really take away from Dynasty mode. The general game play is good but the dynasty mode is where the problem lies. It gets too unrealistic.

[pokerplaya]

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I don't play online so no reason to use my online code up, and if I sell NCAA on ebay having a code not activated will bring me back less loss, and less money in EAs pocket when the buyer doesn't have to pay 10$ for a online pass.

So, the rest of us should suffer because you want to sell your game? Thanks.

[Legionnaire]

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It is generally easy to bring the school you are controlling out of the dumps but the cpu does not seem to know how. Having a static universe where everyone stays generally the same does not really make for a great or interesting number of years.

This has always been a problem with the game, seems like. That you could go crazy-far into the future and the landscape never really changed except in the cases of teams you directly influenced.

The year there was a bug in the game with discipline points (resulting in teams getting slapped with harsh penalties really easily) was probably the only year the game stood a chance of generating a future where the mighty could actually fall and the weak could actually rise, albeit it for completely fakakta reasons.

This is why, in my longer-running dynasties, I've typically gotten into the habit of meddling with some other schools just to amuse myself (every so often, deciding to wreck a random school, or go turn around a garbage program in my down-time when I'm not working with my own team).

[ryan36]

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People need to stop bitching. It's embarrasing. The WR's skill running vs secondary tackling is balanced. Shut up. please. Stop haranging a non issue.

Thanks EA for not over reacting, and doing a slight bump. From the results people have posted, it was done perfectly. I will post my own results in the official progression thread later tonight.

Chill out people this is good stuff

You really don't need to tell people to shut up...But I agree, this is more helpful than not, I'm pleased.