Enough is Enough. Baseball needs instant replay.

[rangerrick012]

Earlier this year we all saw the situation with Tigers pitcher Armando Gallaraga losing a perfect game due to a blown call. Terrible situation, but at least that didn't decide the winner/loser of the game.

Tonight's Marlins/Phillies game, a ball down the 3rd base line that should have been called fair and given the Marlins the win is called foul by ump Bob Davidson, and the Marlins eventually lost in extra innings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suhgIgrrRUY&feature=player_embedded

I know for a fact that these aren't the only instances where bad calls have cost teams. What if calls like these happen and impact the winner of the World Series?

I just don't understand how MLB can be so far behind on this issue when so many other sports have surpassed it. Enough of the excuses about replay slowing down the game already. If a correct call needs to be made, it shouldn't matter how long it takes. I know I might be preaching to the choir on this one, but it just baffles me how MLB and in particular Bud Selig continue to be so hard up in their stance on replay.

Replay should be expanded to fair/foul calls and out/safe calls, but not balls/strikes. That is one area where I'm willing to go because it's more of a judgement, but the other areas should be reviewed.

[Chaos81]

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What if calls like these happen and impact the winner of the World Series?

That's already happened.

[Chip Douglass]

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That's already happened.

[rangerrick012]

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That's already happened.

You're right, I forgot about the Denkinger call. MLB is at least 10 years overdue for replay, heck one could argue it should have been the first sport for replay ahead of football and basketball, instead of lagging behind the rest of the world.

[Chip Douglass]

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But yeah, awful call.

I think Davidson thought the ball was foul on the first bounce, but after freezing it multiple times, it clearly hits the chalk.

[jth1331]

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So say they replay it, and "overturn" it. What happens? Sanchez awarded a single and the runner on 2nd moves to 3rd? Or do they just assume the runner would score? Shoot, the runner could've fell down and got thrown out by some sort of twist of fate. The call would be right, but the outcome not because most likely the Marlins would've won, however, it would be assuming they would, and how far could you assume?
To me, this would be similar to say in football where a guy catches a pass, its whistled incomplete though, but turns upfield and gets 20 more yards and scores. However, the defense heard the play whistled dead and saw the signal incomplete, so when reviewing and changing the outcome, the extra yards are negated due to the unknown.

[rsox]

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So say they replay it, and "overturn" it. What happens? Sanchez awarded a single and the runner on 2nd moves to 3rd? Or do they just assume the runner would score? Shoot, the runner could've fell down and got thrown out by some sort of twist of fate. The call would be right, but the outcome not because most likely the Marlins would've won, however, it would be assuming they would, and how far could you assume?
To me, this would be similar to say in football where a guy catches a pass, its whistled incomplete though, but turns upfield and gets 20 more yards and scores. However, the defense heard the play whistled dead and saw the signal incomplete, so when reviewing and changing the outcome, the extra yards are negated due to the unknown.

Since the ball doesn't get cut off and roles all the way to the wall you award Sanchez with a double and the run scores. If the LF gets to the ball before it rolls that far than maybe you give him a single and hold the runner at third.

[Chrisksaint]

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Hanley was almost at 3rd when it hops past the bag, pretty easy to assume he would have scored.

This is just pathetic tho, Jim Joyce blew his call and admitted. This guy really didnt even make a call he said foul almost right after the ball comes off the bat.

[snepp]

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I like this thread, an excellent dumping ground for awful umpiring.

Let's throw the ridiculous "Mauer Foul" in the playoffs against the Yankees in here.

Story / Video - first good look at 25 sec mark

And here's an image of the blind umpire staring right at the ****ing play.

[Knight165]

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Since the ball doesn't get cut off and roles all the way to the wall you award Sanchez with a double and the run scores. If the LF gets to the ball before it rolls that far than maybe you give him a single and hold the runner at third.

IR with men on base?....awarding bases?..bad idea IMO.

Timo Perez thanks you for awarding him home though.(2000 WS...watching Todd Ziele's "HR" that hit the wall...with Timo watching the whole time...then getting thrown out trying to score).
(I realize it's similar when a call goes against a team and then they lose later...but ....)

M.K.
Knight165

[ryan36]

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I'm torn on it, the game's pretty slow as it is, but there's no excuse for things like this in the modern era...

[Skerik]

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Human error has been part of the game since its inception and is part of baseball's inherent charm.

....said the Phillies fan.

[Misfit]

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I can't get over the fact that Davidson won't even man-up and admit he blew the call. We're supposed to believe this ball bounced in front of third, and before it hit the ground again, it went into foul territory, around the bag, and landed back in fair territory. Yeah, okay. What a joke.

[jth1331]

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Since the ball doesn't get cut off and roles all the way to the wall you award Sanchez with a double and the run scores. If the LF gets to the ball before it rolls that far than maybe you give him a single and hold the runner at third.

The LF saw it was called foul and jogged to get the ball. Like I said, you can't assume and award bases/runs just because you think he'll score/get to that particular base.

Ramirez could've stumbled rounding third, fell down, had trouble getting up and awkwardly got up and sprained his ankle, making it very difficult to score. I realize he probably would've scored, but back to my reference to football, you can't just award something based on assumption.

[snowmizer]

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The LF saw it was called foul and jogged to get the ball. Like I said, you can't assume and award bases/runs just because you think he'll score/get to that particular base.

Ramirez could've stumbled rounding third, fell down, had trouble getting up and awkwardly got up and sprained his ankle, making it very difficult to score. I realize he probably would've scored, but back to my reference to football, you can't just award something based on assumption.

The remedy for spectator interference is awarding bases on such "assumptions". And determining whether obstruction actually affected a play requires assumption, as well.

This is actually the weakest point to bring up against replay.