Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

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  • scitychamps87
    MVP
    • Apr 2010
    • 1201

    #31
    Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions

    @card-me- i have the same problem with my custom teams on ps3. we need to inform more people and natural motion so that they can fix it because if they dont i'll be real mad. it better be soon too.
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    • JRod
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 3266

      #32
      One of the biggest problems is that tackling is simply too good. Arm tackles are able to bring down guys with 100 in strength. I think this is going to be the best we'll see until BB2 and the game is still not balanced right. It's better and you get a challenge but it's not rewarding.

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      • XBox_Roughneck
        MVP
        • Jul 2002
        • 1728

        #33
        Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions

        Tackling is too good. Dropped passes are rediculous.
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        • coolbreez35
          Banned
          • Jun 2010
          • 185

          #34
          Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions

          passing is easy guys......1st stop trowing over the middle the ss will clock you,2nd use lead pass and lead your man in to an open spot throw foucus catch ........boom move the chains its really that easy

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          • swaldo
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 1268

            #35
            Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions

            Originally posted by XBox_Roughneck
            Tackling is too good. Dropped passes are rediculous.
            What difficulty are you guys playing? Is this problem across the board on all difficulties?

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            • pistonpete
              Pro
              • Mar 2005
              • 662

              #36
              Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions

              Originally posted by coolbreez35
              passing is easy guys......1st stop trowing over the middle the ss will clock you,2nd use lead pass and lead your man in to an open spot throw foucus catch ........boom move the chains its really that easy
              the problem with your advice is that there are receivers in high school, college, CFL. AFL, and most certainly the NFL who can catch the rock in traffic and hold on to it. this patch doesn't account for that. it is true that if you lead the receiver and throw into an open space, he will,more than not, catch it, but i think they tuned the game too well as far as tackling. also, IRL not all SS and FS are heavy hitters, though in this game they are. also, the run blocking still isn't tuned good enough, though it is better. still too many missed assignments/underpowered G and RT/LT, and all of the ends i've run against play like Albert Haynesworth of 2007/8. other than that, it plays way better than the first iteration. not perfect, but what is?

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              • pistonpete
                Pro
                • Mar 2005
                • 662

                #37
                Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions

                Originally posted by swaldo
                What difficulty are you guys playing? Is this problem across the board on all difficulties?
                i've always found passing to be intuitive, even before the patch. i played on hard/avg. form pre-patch, now i play on med/avg form post patch and have yet to win a game. that's mainly because i've thrown dumb pics and the CPU is better at moving the ball. play against the NE Militia and watch James Ashmore (Tom Brady) go to work. I played against them, and they scored on me in the first 1 1/2 minutes of a 5 minute game. It's been a while since I've played regularly, but it was nice to see the CPU challenge me. I think the dropped passes thing can be counteracted by playing on good form or something like that.

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                • mgoblue678
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3371

                  #38
                  Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions

                  Quick question for the PS3 players. In terms of tweaking the pass rush/pass blocking, they didn't go overboard did they? Is the pass rush still realistic in terms of qb's not having forever to throw?
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                  • Guffers
                    Glory to the Brave!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 1015

                    #39
                    Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions

                    Overall a big improvement but through the two quarters I played the dropped passes were indeed excessive. Anytime a receiver caught a pass anywhere near the D it was immediately dropped following contact. I prefer this to the INT festival pre patch but most of you guys are going to find it far too aggravating.

                    I'm willing to give it a few more games to try and settle in though.

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                    • Bigmofo
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 19

                      #40
                      Re: Backbreaker Greathouse (Patch version) Impressions

                      Sounds like you need to get your skills up homie. Madden has spoiled you. No more R. Bush breaking 6 tackles, dodging two more and then running 80 yds for the td. In real football rbs avg 4 yds per carry. BB reflects that. Get used to it. I have no problem running the ball.

                      Originally posted by JRod
                      My two biggest problems are:

                      The run blocking isn't effective enough.
                      And tackles are too effective.

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                      • NFL2102
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 83

                        #41
                        Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions

                        Apparently the patch messes with custom teams making them all the same ratings.

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                        • DavonBrown
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1484

                          #42
                          Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions

                          XBOX 360 PATCH IS LIVE!!!

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                          • DavonBrown
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 1484

                            #43
                            Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions

                            Real Quick:
                            +More penalties
                            +CPU offense flows better
                            +CPU QB now sees the entire field
                            +CPU offense no longer audibles into goal line formation every play
                            +CAMERA!
                            +Kicking animations were sped up to prevent cheesing
                            +New plays add a lot more variety
                            +I am actually being challenged by the AI
                            -Custom teams are screwed up
                            -AI does not use juke and spins
                            Last edited by DavonBrown; 08-06-2010, 05:02 AM.

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                            • LingeringRegime
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 17089

                              #44
                              Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions

                              I agree what you guys are saying about the Hard difficulty. Right now it feels like "All-Madden." I got beat pretty soundly three times yesterday. I will try Medium from here on.

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                              • JMD
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 4456

                                #45
                                Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions

                                Well , I just got the Greathouse update on the 360. Unfortunately I'm kind of stuck in my ways when it comes to playing football games and I was hoping for a more traditional camera view. So since Gamestop is offering a trade in deal, I'll be trading Backbreaker in today toward Madden 11. I do applaud NM for the work they have done, great job, the game is just not for me. I hope if they put out a BB 2 they will consider adding the traditional camera view for us old dogs that have been playing video game football with that view since the beginning of football games. Some times you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

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