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  • DaveDQ
    13
    • Sep 2003
    • 7664

    #166
    Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

    I'm getting yards rushing, it's just I don't feel it is very natural. I don't feel like I'm following my blockers. I feel more like I'm faking everyone out.

    I still love the challenge of this game's passing though. I'm having very competitive games.
    Being kind, one to another, never disappoints.

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    • Epiffani
      Supporter
      • Aug 2008
      • 331

      #167
      Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

      Originally posted by DaveDQ
      I'm getting yards rushing, it's just I don't feel it is very natural. I don't feel like I'm following my blockers. I feel more like I'm faking everyone out.
      You absolutely nailed it, and that's exactly what I was alluding to a few pages back when I say I run away from my o-line instead of following them. I have no problem accumulating yards; more carries= more yards for me, but as you said/put it, it's more like faking out the defense i.e catching them in a bad formation against the run and being elusive afterwards.
      Last edited by Epiffani; 08-09-2010, 03:16 PM.

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      • opd897
        MVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 1093

        #168
        Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

        Played a couple of games on medium today.
        First game my created St. Louis Rams (me)against the Philedelphia Liberty. I lost 12-0. Just couldn't get anything going. Fumbled as I was going in for a touchdown early in the game. Passing was OK, I threw for around 150 yards but only ran for 36.

        Second game my Arizona Cardinals (me) against the Birmingham Iron. I won 30-0. Capitalized off one fumble and two picks. This game I ran for 80 yards but the running game is real hit and miss. I would hit a run for 13 yards and the next run I would lose 3 yards. Passed for again around 150 and didn't turn the ball over at all.

        It wouldn't hurt for the developers to tweek the running game a bit for both the CPU and the User. Here's hoping they will!
        Originally posted by ImTellinTim
        If I lived in Waco, I would find you and kick you right in the nuts.

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        • teambayern
          MVP
          • Aug 2008
          • 1702

          #169
          Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

          Is there any indication at all that there will be a second patch? I'm right on the edge of snatching this at BB, but I have concerns about the run game problems, and general availability of games online.
          GT: Teambayern5

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          • coolbreez35
            Banned
            • Jun 2010
            • 185

            #170
            Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

            Do yall go on the bb forums and chat with todd yall bring up good points just want to make sure it get to the top guys....

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            • Phobia
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jan 2008
              • 11623

              #171
              Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

              Originally posted by coolbreez35
              Do yall go on the bb forums and chat with todd yall bring up good points just want to make sure it get to the top guys....
              Tell him to come here

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              • coolbreez35
                Banned
                • Jun 2010
                • 185

                #172
                Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

                Teambayern,,,,,,,,,,,,todd is taking feed back just like he did befor the 1st patch..... He also said that backbreaker will get better and that somethings will have to be added in the next game......(THATS) HIS WORDS NOT MINE) ...so i feel pretty good about the future of this game......p.s. the this he said would have to wait was injurys,and toe taps......as they had to draw a line in the sand for this bb1.....again not my words but his........said all this yesterday you can go read his post

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                • coolbreez35
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 185

                  #173
                  Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

                  Phobia,,,,,,,,I dont think I can make the lead dev go anywhere............but I,ll throw it out there

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                  • boooey
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 836

                    #174
                    Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

                    Those who know my history here know I am very critical of EA and Tiburon especially, and would love nothing more than to say how BB smashes Madden..

                    but after about 10-12 games since the patch has dropped.. i am just not sure about this game really..

                    there is no denying the physics, and tackles are very cool.. but after that.. i dunno

                    every game seems to be a crapshoot on whether my receivers are going to drop balls or not, or if i am able to run the ball at all or not.

                    sometimes no matter what i do, there is a defender in the backfield to stuff the run.. and this leads to endless frustration with this game.

                    I dont want to go on EASY difficulty, because the CPU already cant really score much on Medium as it is.

                    at least I have some time to pass now since the patch, and there are games where my receivers hold onto everything, and then there are games where they drop everything. again.. very frustrating.

                    Sure its great I can play as all 32 NFL teams, but it really doesn't feel like the real players. Maybe its because there is no play by play, or maybe its the oversized generic player models.. i dunno but there is just something missing for me there.

                    The game need some more atmosphere i think.. more player chatter, more stadium sounds and noises, and a better more involved PA announcer.

                    The CPU AI seems to be very erratic at times, and sometimes it seems that they are just calling random plays which do not even relate to the current situation.
                    CPU calls way too many draw plays on 3 downs.. on 3rd & short, 3rd & long.. doesnt matter.
                    I have also had the CPU let the clock run out at half while lined up to kick a field goal. not good..

                    Maybe the 2nd patch (if there is one) can address some of these issues.
                    I still support this game and 505 games..
                    Its definitely an amazing first effort, thats for sure.. and the DEV'S seems very receptive to the community, and dedicated to making this game great which is also a positive sign.

                    Gonna keep reading the tips and guides over a the BB forum and to continue trying with this game though, as this is my only NFL videogame option right now until EA gets their act together..

                    big thanks to the guys doing the NFL rosters, and editors for BB.. it does make a big difference!
                    Last edited by boooey; 08-09-2010, 06:38 PM.

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                    • Phobia
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 11623

                      #175
                      Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

                      Originally posted by boooey
                      Those who know my history here know I am very critical of EA and Tiburon especially, and would love nothing more than to say how BB smashes Madden..

                      but after about 10-12 games since the patch has dropped.. i am just not sure about this game really..

                      there is no denying the physics, and tackles are very cool.. but after that.. i dunno

                      every game seems to be a crapshoot on whether my receivers are going to drop balls or not, or if i am able to run the ball at all or not.

                      sometimes no matter what i do, there is a defender in the backfield to stuff the run.. and this leads to endless frustration with this game.

                      I dont want to go on EASY difficulty, because the CPU already cant really score much on Medium as it is.

                      at least I have some time to pass now since the patch, and there are games where my receivers hold onto everything, and then there are games where they drop everything. again.. very frustrating.

                      Sure its great I can play as all 32 NFL teams, but it really doesn't feel like the real players. Maybe its because there is no play by play, or maybe its the oversized generic player models.. i dunno but there is just something missing for me there.

                      The game need some more atmosphere i think.. more player chatter, more stadium sounds and noises, and a better more involved PA announcer.

                      The CPU AI seems to be very erratic at times, and sometimes it seems that they are just calling random plays which do not even relate to the current situation.
                      CPU calls way too many draw plays on 3 downs.. on 3rd & short, 3rd & long.. doesnt matter.
                      I have also had the CPU let the clock run out at half while lined up to kick a field goal. not good..

                      Maybe the 2nd patch (if there is one) can address some of these issues.
                      I still support this game and 505 games..
                      Its definitely an amazing first effort, thats for sure.. and the DEV'S seems very receptive to the community, and dedicated to making this game great which is also a positive sign.

                      Gonna keep reading the tips and guides over a the BB forum and to continue trying with this game though, as this is my only NFL videogame option right now until EA gets their act together..

                      big thanks to the guys doing the NFL rosters, and editors for BB.. it does make a big difference!
                      Well said

                      @coolbreaze - Yea man talk to him and see if he can check out OS
                      Last edited by Phobia; 08-09-2010, 06:45 PM.

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                      • DaveDQ
                        13
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 7664

                        #176
                        Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

                        Originally posted by Phobia
                        Tell him to come here
                        ....lol...
                        Being kind, one to another, never disappoints.

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                        • Klocker
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 3239

                          #177
                          Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

                          Originally posted by boooey
                          Those who know my history here know I am very critical of EA and Tiburon especially, and would love nothing more than to say how BB smashes Madden..

                          but after about 10-12 games since the patch has dropped.. i am just not sure about this game really..

                          there is no denying the physics, and tackles are very cool.. but after that.. i dunno

                          every game seems to be a crapshoot on whether my receivers are going to drop balls or not, or if i am able to run the ball at all or not.

                          sometimes no matter what i do, there is a defender in the backfield to stuff the run.. and this leads to endless frustration with this game.

                          I dont want to go on EASY difficulty, because the CPU already cant really score much on Medium as it is.

                          at least I have some time to pass now since the patch, and there are games where my receivers hold onto everything, and then there are games where they drop everything. again.. very frustrating.

                          Sure its great I can play as all 32 NFL teams, but it really doesn't feel like the real players. Maybe its because there is no play by play, or maybe its the oversized generic player models.. i dunno but there is just something missing for me there.

                          The game need some more atmosphere i think.. more player chatter, more stadium sounds and noises, and a better more involved PA announcer.

                          The CPU AI seems to be very erratic at times, and sometimes it seems that they are just calling random plays which do not even relate to the current situation.
                          CPU calls way too many draw plays on 3 downs.. on 3rd & short, 3rd & long.. doesnt matter.
                          I have also had the CPU let the clock run out at half while lined up to kick a field goal. not good..

                          Maybe the 2nd patch (if there is one) can address some of these issues.
                          I still support this game and 505 games..
                          Its definitely an amazing first effort, thats for sure.. and the DEV'S seems very receptive to the community, and dedicated to making this game great which is also a positive sign.

                          Gonna keep reading the tips and guides over a the BB forum and to continue trying with this game though, as this is my only NFL videogame option right now until EA gets their act together..

                          big thanks to the guys doing the NFL rosters, and editors for BB.. it does make a big difference!

                          I was in the same boat all week and agree.. EXCEPT... I am sorry to say I have given up... moving on. I had high hopes but with the issues you have described and even with all the practice I could muster (why is there no practice mode!!) I am done.... we'll try again next time fellas!

                          yes and thanks for the rosters and editors... I tried several changes as well as the default rosters

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                          • zmcman1
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 354

                            #178
                            Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

                            Main problems I see

                            - Run blocking obviously.
                            - Sometimes your WR will get 2 feet in bounds after a catch, step out, and it'll still be ruled an incompletion.
                            - Still too many draw plays.
                            - CPU WRs should receive a boost in holding onto the ball with contact. Now that it's been found out Protect Ball helps prevent drops for users, the new drop system definitely favors the user as the CPU doesn't have that logic. I'm not saying they should catch everything, but they do need a better chance of catching passes without minimal contact affecting them.
                            - Too many games with 15+mph wind. I almost play all of my games in NE's stadium now just because the CPU has issues kicking with the wind.
                            - Still instances of missed pass interference.
                            - Clock management still a problem at times. With under 2 minutes to go, I've seen the CPU run a draw on first and 10, then burn a timeout. Then run the ball again and burn another.

                            All things that could be fixed. I think the CPU offense wouldn't be as limited if the running game is improved, since they typically call their gameplans around 50/50, where as us users can opt to avoid the running game completely. I know I definitely call a lot of 90% pass/10% run games on Hard.

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                            • Dewie12
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 787

                              #179
                              Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

                              Alright I don't have this game but after reading about this and the patch.

                              How customizable is this game? Either 5 or 10 min quarters? Nothing in between. Sliders?

                              Why make a game like this and not make it costumizable....hopefully BB2 comes out and they let the USER define their experience.

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                              • phillyfan23
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 2319

                                #180
                                Re: Backbreaker Patch "Greathouse" Impressions (PS3, 360)

                                for all the people having issues with the run blocking, why don't you use finn's editor to globally edit some player ratings? his editor would basically serve as sliders, right ? raise run blocking rating maybe for each OL, or lower strength for every DE/DL/LB like someone mentioned, or maybe raise strength for all RBs....

                                I know it's only on the 360, but if it can help, why don't you guys try. I wish I could but i'm stll waiting my copy to arrive.

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