NBA Elite 11 Video: Quick Clip #4 and #5

[bill2451]

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in clip #5, its great that we can see that weight/size/strength matters... however my issue is that the "physics" don't seem like physics at all

Kobe leaped up and his shin collided with Lebrons shoulder... if that happened in real life Kobe would have gone flipping head first over Lebron. Instead he simply bounces off in a completely unrealistic way, almost as if their torsos had collided

after seeing the physics in Backbreaker, I don't know if I could even call this real time physics... it simply looked like more dynamic animations compared to usual, but it certainly wasn't even close to realistic w/ what would have happened in real life. If this is the system that EA has been hyping as "physics" I'm going to be disappointed

[Forever_Young83]

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The animaitons make me not want to watch any more Elite videos.. They seriously need a better system for animations than what there curently using. Animations are probably the biggest complaint of anything regarding this game, do the devs not listen.

[mercymerc23]

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The animaitons make me not want to watch any more Elite videos.. They seriously need a better system for animations than what there curently using. Animations are probably the biggest complaint of anything regarding this game, do the devs not listen.

^^^ Agreed

[Tha_Kid]

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in clip #5, its great that we can see that weight/size/strength matters... however my issue is that the "physics" don't seem like physics at all

Kobe leaped up and his shin collided with Lebrons shoulder... if that happened in real life Kobe would have gone flipping head first over Lebron. Instead he simply bounces off in a completely unrealistic way, almost as if their torsos had collided

after seeing the physics in Backbreaker, I don't know if I could even call this real time physics... it simply looked like more dynamic animations compared to usual, but it certainly wasn't even close to realistic w/ what would have happened in real life. If this is the system that EA has been hyping as "physics" I'm going to be disappointed

Read up on the physics in the threads in this forum. It has been said multiple times that the physics system isn't going to be applied to stuff like limbs. Take the clip you're talking about: those green cylinders/circles are where physics are being taken into account as far as collisions. The physics are called Real Time Physics because the calculations are being done in real time. That is the extent of the name.

There is no misleading or hype when it is spelled out when asked about. The information is there to be read. Elite was never said to have Backbreaker/GTA4 type physics.

[rEAnimator]

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OK. Now for me to rant a little bit. I'm going to point out the obvious probably, but can't resist. Everyone needs to keep in mind that this is still a work in progress and should be thankful for the devs to answer our questions and take time to make these videos for us.

Clip #4

I like everything about it, expect the delay in collision from Bargnani and the sliding that takes place after that collision. What really bothers me is awkwardness of the PG taking a few extra steps instead of being off balance and stopped in his tracks, and making the pass much more difficult because of the position of Bargnani.

Clip #5

More of a question really. I understand what you were trying to display with the ratings and the effect they have on the collisions, however, what is the reason behind the player not being aware of the dunk attempt until after the animation has started? Is it solely based on you controlling both players, and that's why the defender didn't at least raise his hands or is that an awareness slider that hasn't been adjusted, or both?

Thanks again.

To clip #5...you're spot on. Because it's a user controlled guy he won't do anything automatically. Having said that, he should have still braced himself for impact. Players do that automatically when a dribbler is about to run straight into them, but it's not happening in this clip.

Thanks for pointing that out. I hadn't noticed...it should be easy to fix so it behaves the same as the dribble case.

[NoTiCe_O]

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To clip #5...you're spot on. Because it's a user controlled guy he won't do anything automatically. Having said that, he should have still braced himself for impact. Players do that automatically when a dribbler is about to run straight into them, but it's not happening in this clip.

Thanks for pointing that out. I hadn't noticed...it should be easy to fix so it behaves the same as the dribble case.

Hey rEAnimator, can you still dunk on someone even if the physics has altered you somewhat?

[kumamae_33]

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The skating of bargnani bothers me a lot...

[Tha_Kid]

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Hey rEAnimator, can you still dunk on someone even if the physics has altered you somewhat?

To piggyback on this question, are there missed dunks on someone where the physics plays a part? Basically can you get rim checked for trying to dunk on someone or in a situation where it is a really ambitious attempt, or is the only "miss" an altered circus shot?

[rEAnimator]

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Dang man, you put up with a lot of stuff and you do a great job of replying to just about everyone....You deserve a hand for that . I almost feel bad for you though, because I believe you came over here from the NHL series, right? Anyways, that series is tight and really doesn't have any competition....Yet here you are trying to win over consumers with Elite...You have a loooooooooong uphill battle my man and I commend you for fighting the fight and sticking around this long. But ultimately, I don't think you will see the success with Elite that you are used to with NHL. Good luck though and thanks for taking all the criticisms, it's got to be frustrating. Just know that very few of us (myself included) want to see Elite fail. We all want 2 strong/different experiences when playing video game basketball this fall. I'm just personally at a point where I can't see myself saying Elite is the superior series. Sorry.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

I actually started my career on FIFA where I worked for 5 or 6 years so I'm very familiar with competition as the FIFA vs. PES battle was intense for many years.

I did a very, very brief stint on NHL before moving on to build EA Sports Grand Slam Tennis on the Wii, then I did some animation technology work, then moved over to NBA for this year.

It's been great for me because it's such a focus for the company and we're trying to do so much in one year. Reminds me of my FIFA days.

I love a challenge and this year has had that and then some

But I'm really happy with what we've done. People will look back on this year with fond memories as the year basketball games changed, and I'm thrilled to be a part of that.

[neptuneniq]

where was the contact with bargnani

[Ermolli]

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Thanks, I appreciate it.

I actually started my career on FIFA where I worked for 5 or 6 years so I'm very familiar with competition as the FIFA vs. PES battle was intense for many years.

I did a very, very brief stint on NHL before moving on to build EA Sports Grand Slam Tennis on the Wii, then I did some animation technology work, then moved over to NBA for this year.

It's been great for me because it's such a focus for the company and we're trying to do so much in one year. Reminds me of my FIFA days.

I love a challenge and this year has had that and then some

But I'm really happy with what we've done. People will look back on this year with fond memories as the year basketball games changed, and I'm thrilled to be a part of that.

Where you in the transition years of Fifa when regained the top soccer game?(I believe it's the 08 game) Surely you would love (as many here) to do the same with Elite. Good luck on that

[rEAnimator]

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Where you in the transition years of Fifa when regained the top soccer game?(I believe it's the 08 game) Surely you would love (as many here) to do the same with Elite. Good luck on that

I lose track of the exact years but yes, I was there for the rewrite of '03 and the rewrite of '07 when we moved to 360/PS3.

I know we won't win everyone over this year with Elite, but I believe we will win over a large number of people. We'll be fighting reputation despite the quality of the game we release.

The competition is going to heat up from both sides, and in the end the consumer will be the ultimate winner.

It's a good time to be a basketball video game fan.

[Hulkules]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Quick Clip #4

Hey reanimator, where was the contact with Bargnani in clip 4 when the created player was about to make the pass for the alley oop? It just looks like there should have been some to affect the pass..

[Joey Sauce]

if everyone else is ok with Bargnani moonwalking for about 3 feet...then i guess i am too

[gmix411]

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Clip #5 was really interesting. What happens if the 300-pound lebron jumps? Will there be a difference whether lebron jumps early or late, talking about the animation?