Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

[pokerplaya]

Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

And I would ask both of the above two posters how much time they spent actually fixing up their gameplans? I think a lot of people are mad that they aren't seeing results out of a system that you have to put a lot more than 40 seconds into to get the intended value out of.

[TarHeelPhenom]

Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

Most of the people who have commented in this thread haven't set up a gameplan to go with their Gameflow. The poster earlier (and please do not take this as an attack) said that he saw a called reverse on 3rd and 18... I'm sorry but if you don't want to see these plays then it is up to YOU to set your gameplan up so that is not even a thought in the situation.

As I've said, I have not done significant testing at this point, but early returns while combining Gameflow WITH Gameplanning AS INTENDED, produces quality results, and speedier games.

I still want to work with the system too, but flat out I believe a lot of people that are bashing the system have not put any significant depth and time into their gameplans. If you just go default, yes - it will do some dumb things and some plays you would NEVER call.

This is exactly what I said in my post. Gameflow and Gameplanning go hand in hand and unless you take the time to Gameplan, then Gameflow won't be utilized to the fullest.

My best friend and I have played two games. The first game my OC came out and wanted to establish the run real early and stuck with thta gameplan. The run game was successful and he sprinkled in a little play-action to go with it. The second game we played...on the first drive we threw the ball 8 out of 10 plays and had the Cowboys totally off guard. The next possession we started to run the ball and ended up blowing the Cowgirls out. Just one man's opinion but I love it and can see this being a favorite of a lot of people in the future...that is if EA puts more work into it.

[NinjaGigolo]

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Was 'Garbage' an option? Alright, I know it wasn't but should have been. What's the purpose if you have to end up calling audibles 50% of the time. Was just telling my wife the other day that everything in this darned country is about being as fast as you can. Driving, cooking, eating, working, etc.. I personally enjoy spending 45-60 minutes playing a single game of Madden 10, The Show, or any other video game. I believe it's only aimed towards the newbies.

So, my final call would have to be 'Gimmick'. I would much rather have seen uniforms getting dirty as the game progresses, why in the world would they remove this from games past? And better announcers actually announcing a realistic type broadcast, not the disjointed garbage they came up with this year. Funny thing, I've been watching, following NFL football for over 25 years and I've never even heard of Gus Johnson until this game of Madden '11. Oh well.

I take offense to the idea that if you do not like playing 1hr games then you are a noob. I have a wife to spend time with and a son to play with. Starting tomorrow I will also have papers to grade, quizzes to make, lessons to plan. I simply do not have 1hr everyday to play games.

I LOVE the feature. I personally feel that it is a revolutionary OPTION. I don't quite understand why everyone has gotten so up in arms about something they do not have to do.

For the simple reason that I can play at least one game of franchise every single day and on some days possibly 3-4 games, this is the best football game yet. I feel like a real coach. I am altering my gameplan every game as I learn what does and does not work.

This has turned football gaming from "I really need to try to get a game in this evening if at all possible" to "OK, I am just gonna play one more."

[Klocker]

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I take offense to the idea that if you do not like playing 1hr games then you are a noob. I have a wife to spend time with and a son to play with. Starting tomorrow I will also have papers to grade, quizzes to make, lessons to plan. I simply do not have 1hr everyday to play games.

I LOVE the feature. I personally feel that it is a revolutionary OPTION. I don't quite understand why everyone has gotten so up in arms about something they do not have to do.

For the simple reason that I can play at least one game of franchise every single day and on some days possibly 3-4 games, this is the best football game yet. I feel like a real coach. I am altering my gameplan every game as I learn what does and does not work.

This has turned football gaming from "I really need to try to get a game in this evening if at all possible" to "OK, I am just gonna play one more."

Exactly,.. people calling this garbage and noobs for liking it just sound butt hurt about the game in general and that they created a feature that "appears" to remove some of their skill form the game. They actually did no such thing. they added a robust game PLANNER (the way real "NFL teams play) and retained the option to call your own plays on the fly...you know...just like they did way back in the day.


and yea, having fun games and playing two in the time of one or one in the time of what used to be a half!... is good for people with families and jobs and whatnot.

[kazjason]

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I think it's a good feature, I think in time most will too if they actually put some effort into using it. People are so afraid of change, but yet cry when not enough has changed. It is everything Ask Madden never was because you can taylor it to the plays YOU want. I'll be looking forward to seeing what Pokerplaya comes up with.

[pokerplaya]

Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

I think it's a good feature, I think in time most will too if they actually put some effort into using it. People are so afraid of change, but yet cry when not enough has changed. It is everything Ask Madden never was because you can taylor it to the plays YOU want. I'll be looking forward to seeing what Pokerplaya comes up with.

I just PM'ed the moderator to find out where I should post the thread. I assume he will have replied by the time I get done setting up my gameplan, franchise, and giving it an initial go. I will be at play for at least the next 12-13 hours, but will break in after every game to post impressions, stats, and gameplan/gameflow information in that thread, wherever it may be.

Thanks for the props, I'm really looking forward to helping make this game great!

[JohnDoe8865]

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I have a question for those using the gameplanning and gameflow. Can you set the CPU's gameplan in franchise mode if you control all 32 teams? If so, it would be huge for franchise realism. If not, it's pretty useless for me.

[statum71]

I like it. I like the idea of feeling like each team's coordinator is calling the plays. Especially since I like to play neutral. I play with everybody at different times in my season mode so its great for me.

[TarHeelPhenom]

Re: Is Madden's Gameflow a Revolution or a Gimmick?

I have a question for those using the gameplanning and gameflow. Can you set the CPU's gameplan in franchise mode if you control all 32 teams? If so, it would be huge for franchise realism. If not, it's pretty useless for me.

I don't see why you shouldnt be able to. When you are at the pick team screen, just go over and set the gameplan/playbook up and proceed.

[kenlovin]

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Gameflow is a gimmick, i have the same thought as Bill Abner. Why on earth would I want the cpu calling plays for me. Now gameplanning is a welcome addition

[marktwain77]

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The "my gameplan" option is nice.

Gameflow is seriously a joke. I'll bet it joins the passing cone in the "one and done" bin. People are playing with it to try it out, but it gets old VERY fast.

It just does not feel right when you are not calling the plays.

One neat Gameflow touch would be if they added actual coach's voices. Or even 20 different voices to read those lines (for some variety). It's not that many lines to record. It would be cosmetic though, and I would just scrap it altogether.

[boxboy99]

Gameplan could be **** if they flesh this feature out to what FPS Football had in the 90's. I wish we could have some control over the situations. The game gets way to aggresive before the end of the first half. I wish we had the option to go conservative or aggresive play calling at the end of a half. I also would like to see play success tracking like head coach and have the computer adapt their gameplans based off continueous data and tendencies.

[infamyice]

It's a keeper, if used properly.

[boxboy99]

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Can a gameplan be loaded for my computer opponet? When I edit the gameplans I assume the default teams playbook stays the same. I seen a couple people mention tweaking the computers playcalling but I am not sure how to do make this work.

[Instant C1a55ic]

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I like using it when im in a hurry...so i guess it lives up to its purpose. Like everyone has said before me, it does have its problems. I made a gameplan and ranked all of my pass plays higher than my run, and i still run close to twice as many runs as passes.

However, i changed things up and made no gameplan and the game seemed to adjust to my teams strengths. Game flow properly set me up with plenty of play-actions and boot legs to set up the run. I was 19-25 for 270 with Kyle Orton on All-Pro.