Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

[pokerplaya]

CPU just made a great read on a slant... Knox got a quick step and separation on Bly at the corner, and with no help over the top and a throw in stride, Knox is off to the races.

14-10 Detroit.

78 Yards later on Derrick Williams catch on a crossing pattern and to the house, and I'm beginning to worry about All-Pro, and not about Gameflow. My gameplan is obviously working perfectly, at least offensively!

Chicago had a nicely orchestrated drive, but I held in the red zone and they were forced to take a short FG. I then turned over the ball on my next possession, good play action but blitzer was unaccounted for and I got drilled into throwing a duck to Urlacher. But the defense held, and I am now taking over on the 20 with 8 minutes left in the 2nd, leading 21-13.

And THERE is the CPU D... worked it all the way down to 4th and Goal at the 1, tried to punch it in, CPU picked a great play from my gameplan and Urlacher blew it up. Bears take over on their 2. But at the same time,

Cutler hooked up with Aromashodu for 63 yards to cap a 9 play drive, and they kicked the PAT, so I'll get the ball with 1:52 left in the half up a point, 21-20.

(Don't expect any other game reports to be this in-depth, trying to look at the gameplan and just posting everything)

56 yard TD pass... rolled away from the blitz, Calvin had one step... gone. 28-20, we're not to half...

47 yard TD to Aromashodu... I probably pulled the DB away from possibly making the play but I think he still makes it anyways to be honest.

4 plays and 54 yards later I have to kick a FG to end the half. Make sure you do not gameflow inside of 10 seconds, it will be the kick always and I felt I could have taken a shot at the endzone.

So here's the halftime stats, I'm disgusted.

Disgusted to where I do not even know if can finish this game without restarting and beginning immediate work on sliders.

PASSING:

Cutler 15/23 for 347 yards (65%) 3TD, 2INT Long 78
Stafford 14/16 for 298 yards (87%) 3TD, 1INT Long 78

Mind you, those are halftime stats. Both passers should break Van Brocklin's record. I gotta go find sliders, glad I know Gameplan works.

[pokerplaya]

Re: Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

The portion of the game report above is the reason why I have again decided to stick my hat into the slider forums. I am going to attempt to find the most realistic slider set possible for NFL Franchise play. I will be starting on All-Pro and all games will be played with the Detroit Lions at least in my tests, as I will be playing a franchise. I welcome other testers, help and research. I will be posting my tweaks that I am starting with in just a few moments!

[pokerplaya]

Re: Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

Here's my initial starting set, and some thought behind it.

Player skill, all advanced settings on each individual spot.

Passing: 45
Pass Blocking: 50
WR Catching: 50

Rushing: 50
Run Blocking: 50
Fumbles: 50

Reaction Time: 40
Interceptions: 50
Pass Rushing: 40

Reaction Time: 50
Block Shedding: 50
Tackling: 40

Those are the player skill settings. When you are in the advanced, it tells you to make it easier, and to the right to make it harder. We need to lose some of our accuracy. The running game for the start, is fine. We need our DB's to react faster, and a slightly better pass rush. I have not seen issues with INT's as of yet so I will leave it. I set the Tackling to 40 to hopefully make the DB's close down on WR's with the ball better, and not so much to inhibit CPU rushing.

CPU:

QB Accuracy: 45
Pass Blocking: 50
WR Catching: 50

Broken Tackles: 50
Run Blocking: 50
Fumbles: 50

Reaction Time: 55
Interceptions: 50
Pass Rushing: 50

Reaction Time: 50
Block Shedding: 50
Tackling: 55

Same deal with the CPU, except their sliders go in reverse it appears so I moved them upwards. I will play my first test game, Lions vs. Bears.

All of my games are on All-Pro (or Custom now) with 11 minute quarters, accelerated clock at 15 seconds, a full personalized Gameplan with Gameflow, and the Default Detroit Lions. I will only pick up a player in the initial season in case of an injury from the free agent pool to provide a decent look at the team and how they should function.

I don't think this game needs a lot of tweaking, but I want to try to get it perfect. Thanks if you choose to test or help!

[pokerplaya]

Re: Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

First Test Game (Lions at Bears) DET - 78 OVR / CHI - 85 OVR

Halftime Stats:

Passing:

Cutler: 15/23 for 151 yards, (65%), 1 TD, 1 INT
Stafford: 9/19 for 129 (47%), 2 TD, 0 INT

Right there shows that the CPU has had both better pressure on me, and better coverage... with perhaps the better coverage leading to the better pressure. The score is 20-7 me at the half, so a lot better there as well.

Rushing:

Best: 10 carries, 60 yards 6.0
Forte: 6 carries, 10 yards 1.6

First game out of the 2 co-op and the half I played earlier that the CPU hasn't run decently. Perhaps a tune of the blocking number might be due, but we'll see how the rest of the game goes. Playing an extremely fun game right now!

[pokerplaya]

Re: Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

First Game - DET 47, CHI 28

Team Stats: will be denoted (DET/CHI)

Total Offense: 478/396
Rushing: 210/32
Passing: 268/364
First Downs: 14/12
Turnovers: 0/5 (yikes!)

Penalties both 3-35

Players

Passing:

Cutler: 26/41 for 374 yards (63%) with 4 TD and 5 INT.
Stafford: 23/39 for 281 (58%) with 3 TD and 0 INT

Mind you, Cutler got 2 bombs late, one to Knox for 65 and another to FORTE for 86. Felt Comeback-AI'ish. Aromashodu also had a 40 yarder, so if you add all of those 3 grabs up you have 191 of 374 of Cutler's Yards. So the rest of the time he went 23/38 for 183 yards. Not horrible at all. Most of the picks were just from bad decisions, makes me think I might leave the CPU accuracy up, and obviously lower the human interceptions.

Stafford's recievers on the other hand, had a great spread. No reciever had a long play of over 29 yards. Actually pretty comfortable with the human passing, just think I will be upping the CPU tackling to make them close on the recievers better after the catch and help shut down the run (which as you can tell from the team stats, I got off on!)

Rushing:

Best 17 carries for 177 yards (10.4) and 2 TDs. Long of 78.
Forte 11 carries for 32 yards (2.9) and 0 TDs. Neither back fumbled.

Best had the long of 78, so 16 for 99 otherwise. Good numbers, and I'll upload the video when I can of the video. Was amazing, and the view I have shows how he pulls away!

Recieving for both teams was well spread.

Urlacher had 7 solo/2 ast to lead the bears. They had 2 sacks, one by Urlacher and one by Tommie Harris. DeAndre Levy led with 5 solos and and an assist with the #2 overall getting 3 tackles, all 3 for loss including 2 sacks!

Will be tweaking the sliders a bit for the next game, at home against Philadelphia!

[pokerplaya]

Re: Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

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[pokerplaya]

Re: Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

Version 2:

QB Accuracy: 45
Pass Blocking: 50
WR Catching: 50

Broken Tackles: 50
Run Blocking: 50
Fumbles: 50

Pass Defense: 40
Interceptions: 25
Pass Rushing: 40

Reaction Time: 45
Block Shedding: 45
Tackling: 35

CPU:

QB Accuracy: 45
Pass Blocking: 50
WR Catching: 50

Broken Tackles: 50
Run Blocking: 50
Fumbles: 50

Reaction Time: 58
Interceptions: 50
Pass Rushing: 50

Reaction Time: 55
Block Shedding: 55
Tackling: 60

Also, my penalty sliders are 100 for Offside, 99 for False Start, 55 for Holding and Facemask, 100 for all the Interferences, 51 for Clipping, 100 for Grounding and all Roughings.

[pokerplaya]

Re: Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

PHI @ DET (PHI 84 OVR - DET 78 OVR)

I am missing DE Vanden Bosch for 3 weeks with broken ribs suffered against Chicago. Cliff Avril will start in his place on the right side!

OK -- I started and played this game till the half and it was quite obvious that the running game still needed major work - and I also counted the plays for both the last game, and this game up to the half and I am finding that 10 minutes should produce more accurate statistical totals than 11 minutes with the 15 second runoff.

Here will be the changes I am implementing. I will also be restarting my franchise in an attempt to only go with one set with only a minor tweak throughout. I'd rather not have the skewiness, I guess I'm too much of a realism freak - BUT I get my money's worth!

[pokerplaya]

Re: Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

Pokerplaya's Project - Realism Sliders for All-Pro
10 Minutes, 15 second accelerated runoff.

HUMAN:

QB Accuracy: 55
Pass Blocking: 50
WR Catching: 50

Broken Tackles: 50
Run Blocking: 60
Fumbles: 50

Reaction Time: 45
Interceptions: 75
Pass Rushing: 40

Reaction Time: 55
Block Shedding: 55
Tackling: 30

CPU:

QB Accuracy: 47
Pass Blocking: 50
WR Catching: 50

Broken Tackles: 50
Run Blocking: 60
Fumbles: 50

Reaction Time: 65
Interceptions: 50
Pass Rushing: 50

Reaction Time: 70
Block Shedding: 70
Tackling: 70

Penalties: Offside-100, False Start-99, Holding-55, Facemask-55, Both Pass Interference-100, KR/PR Interference 100, Clipping-51, Grounding and Both Roughing-100!

Auto-subs for RB are set at 83-88, the rest are at default, and yes my backup running backs have been getting a small amount of carries. Perhaps tweakable for a few more but they do get in.

EDIT: I'd like to note that I play Normal speed games, and I also have my injuries setting to 40. Seemed like too many in my co-op games with friends last night. Still had lost Van Den Bosch for a few weeks in that initial game, and seen quite a few minor injuries similar to what you would see during a contest so I feel it is very realistic!

[pokerplaya]

Re: Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

Well scrap those too... Just put up a 72-20 drubbing of the Chicago Bears on their home field with 590 yards of total offense. The Bears stats actually were pretty legit, 366 total offense, 102 rushing and 264 passing yards.

I went 16 for 20 with Stafford for 273 and 3 scores versus 0 picks. 80% Completion Percentage, and a perfect QB rating of 158.3 with an average per attempt of 13.6. My long pass with Stafford was only a 40.

I did sub the subs in the 4th quarter. Shaun Hill also posted a perfect QB rating, going 3 for 3 for 38 yards and 2 more TDs... long of only 22.

Jahvid Best is a ridiculously sick individual, however. 18 carries for 208 yards (11.5 average) and 3 TD's. He had an 81 and a 61 yard scamper, both of which I will post video of. Kevin Smith also tacked on another 14 carries for 63 yards, a lot in garbage time but a lot spelling Best also. Really like the back rotation to be honest. Even Mo Morris got a carry!

The CPU ran well, just really *couldn't* stick with their gameplan as I *did* win by 52 points. I think it is all a matter of making it crazy hard on the player on offense at this point. Also, kickoff returns for the CPU have to be patched immediately. I'm going to kill someone and I think I will have at least 10 defensive touchdowns off the kickoff team this year.

Of course, this year will be restarting... I'm not taking a 52 point win as the Lions, period. Back to the drawing board, these next ones I draw up are going to be scary.

[pokerplaya]

Re: Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

It's the Jahvid Best show!!!

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Ridiculous... must fix running to where can be contained even a little bit...

[pokerplaya]

Re: Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

OK, this set will be hopefully be hard... going kind of extreme, but who knows.

HUMAN:

QB Accuracy: 50
Pass Blocking: 50
WR Catching: 50

Broken Tackles: 50
Run Blocking: 50
Fumbles: 50

Reaction Time: 45
Interceptions: 25
Pass Rushing: 45

Reaction Time: 45
Block Shedding: 45
Tackling: 40

QB Accuracy: 47
Pass Blocking: 50
WR Catching: 50

Broken Tackles: 50
Run Blocking: 50
Fumbles: 50

Reaction Time: 100
Interceptions: 50
Pass Rushing: 50

Reaction Time: 100
Block Shedding: 100
Tackling: 100

All other sliders and settings are the same as previous (penalties, game speed and time).

[SeanDylan]

Re: Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

Those are the player skill settings. When you are in the advanced, it tells you to make it easier, and to the right to make it harder.

Hey bud, I wanted to inform you that this is correct but also incorrect. You're not fully understanding what's going on. If you click on, "player skills," you'll see four sets of numbers. I believe it is passing, rushing, rush defense, and pass defense. They will be between 1-15, 1 being the easiest, 15 being the hardest. If you scroll over any of these, on the bottom part of the screen you'll see it says exactly what you said in the above quote BUT, once you click "A" on any of the four it is no longer true. The lower the number on each specific category, such as qb accuracy or reaction time, the worse it is, while the higher the number, the easier it is for you. If you don't believe me, lower all the numbers in each specific category to 1. Now look at the base number, it will be 15. If you raise all the numbers in each specific category the base numbers for the main four categories (passing, rushing, pass defense, rush defense) will be 1.

It seems as though you're making a lot of effort to give people within this community legitimate sliders to play with, we all thank you for that, but since I did you a favor could you do me a favor and try out my sliders and tell me the results in my thread?

[pokerplaya]

Re: Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

Hey bud, I wanted to inform you that this is correct but also incorrect. You're not fully understanding what's going on. If you click on, "player skills," you'll see four sets of numbers. I believe it is passing, rushing, rush defense, and pass defense. They will be between 1-15, 1 being the easiest, 15 being the hardest. If you scroll over any of these, on the bottom part of the screen you'll see it says exactly what you said in the above quote BUT, once you click "A" on any of the four it is no longer true. The lower the number on each specific category, such as qb accuracy or reaction time, the worse it is, while the higher the number, the easier it is for you. If you don't believe me, lower all the numbers in each specific category to 1. Now look at the base number, it will be 15. If you raise all the numbers in each specific category the base numbers for the main four categories (passing, rushing, pass defense, rush defense) will be 1.

It seems as though you're making a lot of effort to give people within this community legitimate sliders to play with, we all thank you for that, but since I did you a favor could you do me a favor and try out my sliders and tell me the results in my thread?

I mean thanks and all, I hadn't really tweaked anything enough for that large of a notice on the player side, but it took you like 30 seconds to post this and it would take me like 40 minutes to play a game. Pretty big favor... lol...

And I'm trying to design my own slider set, what would playing a game with a completely different set do to help me with my research? I'm trying to get the game to where I can actually play it, if that helps people - great... but I'm going with what works for me, not somebody else - or I'd be testing all the other sets rather than going my own route.

Thanks though.

[painlesslmn]

Re: Pokerplaya's Project (All-Pro Base)

No disrespect man but if this slider set was specifically designed for you, why in the world would you even bother posting this set