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  • RogueHominid
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    • Aug 2006
    • 10903

    #1

    ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

    Let's use this thread for discussing helpful tactics for stopping plays and looks that we see but struggle with. I believe a robust discussion on helpful tactics will serve two important functions: it will cut down bickering by crippling those money plays/tactics that we see and don't like, and it will raise the general level of league play by forcing us to be more varied in our approaches to the game.

    Flats

    Cover 3 puts blue zones to those areas and will ensure that a defender will be there on both sides of the field. Should a back catch the pass out there a gain is likely but it's not uncontested. The weak portion of the defense is in the middle in the short game. Taking the MLB is smart because it allows you to control slants and drags and also places you in the position to move quickly to the flat in the event of the quick snap and throw that happens before those blue zones settle in. You can accomplish the same support function by controlling the S in a hook zone, playing inside-out.

    Cover 2 Hard Passes to the flats will be contested immediately and forcefully. You will be most vulnerable to streaks from the WR and corner routes. To mitigate this weakness in the coverage, consider spotlighting the receiver farthest from you and the taking the S to the wide side of the field to ensure that if a streak develops you are in an anticipatory position and have a chance to go swat that ball. Get extra depth and width pre-snap to help close distance. If you are certain that the opponent will not throw streaks, consider the OLB to the strong side and play inside-out from the slant to the flat.

    Cover Two Variants There are several variations of the cover two in the 34 formations. One calls for a blitz by the RILB with hook zones across the remainder of the LB and CB corps. You may from time to time wish to use this permutation in the following way. Try pressing the corners and they using the blitzing LB to either generate quick heat up the middle to force a pass to the flats where your CBs will be, or to freestyle and cut one of the flats receivers off manually. The weakness will be in a slant or drag to that vacated area, but the presence of other defenders minimizes the chance that such freestyling will result in a massive gain.

    You may even consider manning up this blitzing backer on the most dangerous threat while leaving everyone else in his assignment. You can do this as well with the cover two plays that have a MLB in a spy assignment. To minimize the chance of a slant or drag to this small vacated area going for a big play, you may control the other MLB in a 34 or the OLB nearest the vacated area and patrol both zones.

    Man Coverage: Control the player assigned to the HB and shadow manually. The FB can be left to a CPU defender for the simple fact that most FB will not break games wide open from catching passes in the flats.
    Last edited by RogueHominid; 08-31-2010, 10:43 AM.
  • TheKingOfVa
    MVP
    • Sep 2004
    • 2218

    #2
    Re: ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

    The game needs a patch bad. It doesn't play like real football. It's like NBA Jam for football on offense. The Locomotion and pro-tak is out of control. If they can fix that then it will be a great game. Because right now every single game someone scores at least 40 points.
    Last edited by TheKingOfVa; 08-11-2010, 04:49 PM.

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    • jyoung
      Hall Of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 11132

      #3
      Re: ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

      Yeah it is going to be a long and painful season for the Detroit defense.

      The offense will have to score 50 points a game to have any shot at a winning record, but I don't think the O-Line is good enough to sustain scoring drives this year.

      The days of performing magic tricks with fragile speedsters and hit stick assassins are pretty much over.

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      • ANDROMADA 1
        So long to a Legend.
        • Dec 2008
        • 5024

        #4
        Re: ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

        The most points I've given up is 31 and that was against the saints. Most of my other games were actually low scoring...For my opponent that is. I like my defense. That could be just me though

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        • RogueHominid
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          • Aug 2006
          • 10903

          #5
          Re: ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

          I just gave up 34 to the Saints with SF; that's my high for points allowed. I don't feel too bad since they're the Super Bowl champs.

          I have yet to have a 10-7 game, though. I wonder how many of those other owners have had.

          Some have suggested playing on All Madden this year instead of All Pro. Have others tried this and found it appropriately balanced (but not cheap as in years past)?

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          • ANDROMADA 1
            So long to a Legend.
            • Dec 2008
            • 5024

            #6
            Re: ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

            Originally posted by Trojan Man
            I just gave up 34 to the Saints with SF; that's my high for points allowed. I don't feel too bad since they're the Super Bowl champs.

            I have yet to have a 10-7 game, though. I wonder how many of those other owners have had.

            Some have suggested playing on All Madden this year instead of All Pro. Have others tried this and found it appropriately balanced (but not cheap as in years past)?
            I had a 12-6 game that went to OT!! and a couple of 17-10 type games. Even pitched a couple shut outs before my opp quit.

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            • jyoung
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              • Dec 2006
              • 11132

              #7
              Re: ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

              From what I've played so far, I'd say linebacker is the most important position to have this year on D.

              For the last couple of years in Madden, it was CBs, but this year, I think it is definitely LBs because of how much you need them to blitz and lock down the middle of the field for you.

              The days of being able to control the middle of the field manually with a safety are pretty much over, too.

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              • RogueHominid
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                • Aug 2006
                • 10903

                #8
                Re: ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

                Originally posted by ANDROMADA 1
                I had a 12-6 game that went to OT!! and a couple of 17-10 type games. Even pitched a couple shut outs before my opp quit.
                Wow. That's pretty good. I haven't been held to under 30 myself, if I can recall, but the lowest I've held an opponent to is probably 17. Most of my games have fallen in the 21-28 range though.

                Have you had such low scoring games vs. league members in 10 minute matches?

                And to Weeman's point, it's a tough call. DL is hugely important this year. I would put DL and LB as equally important. Lucky for me, I have the best backer in the game . Willis is pure, unbridled destructive force.

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                • SuperSeahawks
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                  • Jul 2009
                  • 1335

                  #9
                  Re: ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

                  The first two games I had in my Seahawks franchise were both wins with the scores being 18-12 and 13-10 so defense can be effective in this game. Then today, I was able to get the offense clicking scoring 37 and 45 in those wins.
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                  • ANDROMADA 1
                    So long to a Legend.
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 5024

                    #10
                    Re: ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

                    Originally posted by Trojan Man
                    Wow. That's pretty good. I haven't been held to under 30 myself, if I can recall, but the lowest I've held an opponent to is probably 17. Most of my games have fallen in the 21-28 range though.

                    Have you had such low scoring games vs. league members in 10 minute matches?

                    And to Weeman's point, it's a tough call. DL is hugely important this year. I would put DL and LB as equally important. Lucky for me, I have the best backer in the game . Willis is pure, unbridled destructive force.
                    All my games have been randoms with 7 minute and 5, min qtrs. Some better than others.

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                    • s38s38s
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 623

                      #11
                      Re: ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

                      Best games I've experienced so far have been 7-8 minute quarters NO ACC CLOCK on All-Madden. Myself and VA had a cardiac attack game, there were some big plays on both sides of the ball really good game. Our game was actually on 10 min, 15 acc (final score 31-28) but Pre Season records don't matter

                      With the ability to better read defenses (overall) it's seems more important to have the time to make necessary adjustments on offense, having the acc clock on would limit users based on a few variables like time on the play clock obviously, S-Pad unfamiliarity for some, and taking time to identify where defenders are and if it's man, zone, blitz, etc. Also with the time set to those standards games take the same amount of time as 10 min 15 acc clock.

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                      • teambayern
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                        • Aug 2008
                        • 1702

                        #12
                        Re: ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

                        I don't have the game right now, so take this for what it's worth, but i would think the accel clock would be essential in terms of getting the right amount of plays, the right balance in terms of controlling the clock (late in the game, 1 first down on run plays would wipe out half the 4th), and limiting the the pre-snap adjustments so players have to stick to their calls.
                        GT: Teambayern5

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                        • ANDROMADA 1
                          So long to a Legend.
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 5024

                          #13
                          Re: ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

                          I played a couple games last night. In the 5 min qtr game I was pitching a shut out up until 1 minute left in the game(the guy went for every fourth down and did a lot of other "stuff" at any rate when he decided to quit I was winning 13-6.

                          In the second game I played the ravens with 7 min quarters(it was almost 3am)
                          Andre goes down in the first quarter(after picking up 3 catches for 99 yards and 1 TD) Schaub finishes with a 151 qb rating going 27-36 for over 400 yards and 4 Tds. My offense was fine even with Andre out. Daniels lead the way with 10 catches. Jones had 5 and I hit 7 or 8 different receivers. This guy attempted to nano me too. Ben Tate my rookie running back was held to 18 yards on 9 carries. We didn't open up any holes. I end up winning in OT 34-31. It was actually a fun game other than the couple quick snaps and one or two blown coverages. I only had one sack but we hit Flacco relentlessly. I contend that my defense is still better than in Madden 10.

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                          • s38s38s
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                            • Jan 2009
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                            #14
                            Re: ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

                            Originally posted by teambayern
                            I don't have the game right now, so take this for what it's worth, but i would think the accel clock would be essential in terms of getting the right amount of plays, the right balance in terms of controlling the clock (late in the game, 1 first down on run plays would wipe out half the 4th), and limiting the the pre-snap adjustments so players have to stick to their calls.


                            Why stick with a call if I come out you're (general sense) in a defense that would stop it, why wouldn't I audible or hot route? LOS adjustments are part of the game, so is having time to make them.
                            Last edited by s38s38s; 08-12-2010, 10:42 AM.

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                            • Blaise
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              Re: ACQB M11 Strategy Thread

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