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  • tylerd02
    Rookie
    • Mar 2006
    • 218

    #481
    Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

    Still seeing the cpu running backs running in the wide open while covering the ball. Frustrating to see.

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    • uclabruins4ever
      Rookie
      • Aug 2009
      • 158

      #482
      Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

      Sorry but can anyone point me to where EA has at least acknowledged the pump fake glitch and/or the way Dynasty gets totally broken down the line due to depth chart problems?

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      • booker21
        MVP
        • Jun 2003
        • 4932

        #483
        Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

        Originally posted by tylerd02
        Still seeing the cpu running backs running in the wide open while covering the ball. Frustrating to see.
        yep, i`m also seeing RB going back to the middle of the field when they should go to the sidelines...
        English, is not my first language.

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        • Playmakers
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2004
          • 14972

          #484
          Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

          Originally posted by tylerd02
          Still seeing the cpu running backs running in the wide open while covering the ball. Frustrating to see.
          use the option to turn your defenders into conservative when trying to strip the ball.

          CPU RB's are only doing this a lot because the USER has his defensive strategy up higher than Conservative for strips. The AI recognizes that code during gameplay and therfor they cover up the ball more than they should.

          I mean i do understand some of the complaints but then at times I can't help but to ask myself are people just not aware of how some of these issues can be kinda toned down by the USER himself with options already available to him in gameplay.
          Last edited by Playmakers; 08-18-2010, 10:40 PM.
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          • BroMontana82
            Support Sim
            • Nov 2004
            • 2229

            #485
            Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

            Originally posted by Playmakers
            use the option to turn your defenders into conservative when trying to strip the ball.

            CPU RB's are only doing this a lot because the USER has his defensive strategy up higher than Conservative for strips. The AI recognizes that code during gameplay and therfor they cover up the ball more than they should.

            I mean i do understand some of the complaints but then at times I can't help but to ask myself are people just not aware of how some of these issues can be kinda toned down by the USER himself with options already available to him in gameplay.
            what if you just have it on default? i've never changed it to aggressive.

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            • Ramminyou
              MVP
              • Feb 2005
              • 1222

              #486
              Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

              Originally posted by Playmakers
              use the option to turn your defenders into conservative when trying to strip the ball.

              CPU RB's are only doing this a lot because the USER has his defensive strategy up higher than Conservative for strips. The AI recognizes that code during gameplay and therfor they cover up the ball more than they should.

              I mean i do understand some of the complaints but then at times I can't help but to ask myself are people just not aware of how some of these issues can be kinda toned down by the USER himself with options already available to him in gameplay.
              Maybe I don't want to change my defensive strategy because I like my defense to go for the strip. Why should I have to change something like that to make up for poor CPU logic?

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              • Ramminyou
                MVP
                • Feb 2005
                • 1222

                #487
                Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

                Originally posted by BroMontana82
                what if you just have it on default? i've never changed it to aggressive.
                He included it. I'm sure that's what he meant by "higher than conservative."

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                • mm boost
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1687

                  #488
                  Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by magic247
                  I play varsity coach mode and I've spent hours tweaking with the cpu accuracy post patch to no avail.

                  The developers have discontinued almost all of the overthrow passes that receiver nor defensive back could get to. Now, accuracy is a virtually useless attribute on NCAA 11, even when a 300 lb defensive lineman is about to plant you into the turf.

                  I love playing sports video games, but there are always glaring issues with the gameplay or the mode you cherish the most, like dynasty and online. I don't blame the developers because they have little time to make the game, and make it better, and better, each year with pressure from both corporate office and consumer alike.

                  Like the story of the person saving the babies floating down a river, when is something going to be done to address the source of sim sports videogamers' concerns, product quality? When is the question, "How can a quality sim sports videogame be put out in a year and still remain fairly consistent in its net profit after its sales have been tallied?"

                  I don't know, but I won't leave you (EA) without a couple lay suggestions:

                  1) Hire interns who either work for free or small stipends

                  2) Sacrifice a small percentage of your budget to improving game quality

                  3) Hone in on what made 2k5 and what makes 2k sports in general more successful with fans of simulation sports videogames and slowly tap into its market (like they did yours once upon a time).

                  Best Wishes

                  See this completely baffles me. I downloaded the patch/tuners, and I've been using modified version of playmaker's varsity sliders, and my games play perfect. I've only played 3 games since the patch, but I beat Duke 48 to 20, Georgia Tech (#8) 38 to 15, and then beat (#18) Miami 27-23 with a touchdown with :18 seconds left in my Virginia Tech dynasty (#4). I have my qb acc at 10 and wr catches at 40 or 45, and I get a lot of errant throws, I get heavy pressure, and I get hit a lot. On average, my passing is something like 15-20 completions with about 28 to 35 attempts, so I have plenty of incompletions. Some overthrown, some int's (thrown 7 on the season and we are 11-0 going into final game against UVa), and some are from cpu jacking my receivers up. I just don't get any of these issues everyone is having. The ONLY issue I have is some of the glitches and I get the random 3-5 second freeze in the first and second half of every game that drives me nuts. My games play perfect though, this is the best football game I have ever played. And the new recruiting has made the game deeper and more enjoyable to me. I used to HATE recruiting, now I recruit and use all 10 hours after each game I play (i play one game a night).
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                  • southwvboy
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 16

                    #489
                    Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

                    Since the patch my game freezes at the snap everytime for at least the first half and has been freezing more often then before, it's not as long of a freeze but it happens more often. This is during offline play.

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                    • Spanky
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 2790

                      #490
                      Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by southwvboy
                      Since the patch my game freezes at the snap everytime for at least the first half and has been freezing more often then before, it's not as long of a freeze but it happens more often. This is during offline play.
                      I experienced this last night, in my third game post-patch 2/tuners 2. It started in the second half and I think it lasted only 1 or 2 series, but there was a delay/freeze for about a half-second when you snap the ball. Very annoying and seemingly random in when it pops up. Was playing in snow, don't know if that had anything to do with it.

                      This whole patch/tuner thing is turning into a debacle, really messing up what could be a great thing.
                      It's on me. I shook his hand too hard. It was a hard ... kind of a slap-shake.

                      "What? You can't challenge a scoring play?''

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                      • booker21
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 4932

                        #491
                        Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by Ramminyou
                        Maybe I don't want to change my defensive strategy because I like my defense to go for the strip. Why should I have to change something like that to make up for poor CPU logic?
                        Agree with you.
                        It´s sad we have to set a "feature" for something else, to fix bad coding from EA.
                        English, is not my first language.

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                        • tylerd02
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 218

                          #492
                          Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by Playmakers
                          use the option to turn your defenders into conservative when trying to strip the ball.

                          CPU RB's are only doing this a lot because the USER has his defensive strategy up higher than Conservative for strips. The AI recognizes that code during gameplay and therfor they cover up the ball more than they should.

                          I mean i do understand some of the complaints but then at times I can't help but to ask myself are people just not aware of how some of these issues can be kinda toned down by the USER himself with options already available to him in gameplay.
                          I'll give it a try but i don't see the problem with wr, just rb's.

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                          • StormJH1
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1195

                            #493
                            Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by Spanky
                            I experienced this last night, in my third game post-patch 2/tuners 2. It started in the second half and I think it lasted only 1 or 2 series, but there was a delay/freeze for about a half-second when you snap the ball. Very annoying and seemingly random in when it pops up. Was playing in snow, don't know if that had anything to do with it.

                            This whole patch/tuner thing is turning into a debacle, really messing up what could be a great thing.
                            The pre-play freezing has always been in there, I don't understand why more reviews didn't pick up on it. For me, it's just part of the game and I've kinda gotten used to it, but that isn't an excuse. It really does screw up your timing on quick passing routes when you aren't even seeing live action after the snap.

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                            • Playmakers
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 14972

                              #494
                              Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by Ramminyou
                              Maybe I don't want to change my defensive strategy because I like my defense to go for the strip. Why should I have to change something like that to make up for poor CPU logic?
                              It's a adjustment we have to make if you want to see the CPU RB's behave more logical with the ball in the open field.

                              They are coded to protect to the ball if your playing with your defensive strategy to have your defenders go for more strips and cause more fumbles than the CPU's RB's are going to keep covering up the ball because they are adapting to your gameplay strategy.

                              I don't know if EA did this deliberately or not and just didn't test it before releasing the game but hey i'm just offering an alternative to the silly cover up the ball logic. I still see fumbles and big hits so it's not liek your defenders are being handicapped in the game.

                              They just aren't going for as many strips on the ball carrier.....they make more conservative tackles. Also you guys don't liek to see so many TD's returned off turnovers then this is another way to to slow down the pick 6's and fumble returns for TD's

                              But hey if you those things are best for your style of play then leave the strategy options as is and role with it. I just don't think aggressive strategy is needed to be honest for good gameplay.
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                              • Ramminyou
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 1222

                                #495
                                Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #2 Available with Details, Post Your Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by Playmakers
                                It's a adjustment we have to make if you want to see the CPU RB's behave more logical with the ball in the open field.

                                They are coded to protect to the ball if your playing with your defensive strategy to have your defenders go for more strips and cause more fumbles than the CPU's RB's are going to keep covering up the ball because they are adapting to your gameplay strategy.

                                I don't know if EA did this deliberately or not and just didn't test it before releasing the game but hey i'm just offering an alternative to the silly cover up the ball logic. I still see fumbles and big hits so it's not liek your defenders are being handicapped in the game.

                                They just aren't going for as many strips on the ball carrier.....they make more conservative tackles. Also you guys don't liek to see so many TD's returned off turnovers then this is another way to to slow down the pick 6's and fumble returns for TD's

                                But hey if you those things are best for your style of play then leave the strategy options as is and role with it. I just don't think aggressive strategy is needed to be honest for good gameplay.
                                That's cool, I understand where you're coming from. I personally don't even touch the Gameplan most of the time and I do notice the runners protecting the ball too much, so I think EA should just fix it. But I understand you were just trying to offer a fix. I think I was more responding to your last paragraph in that post where you kind of made it sound like people should switch to conservative instead of complaining, when I think people shouldn't have to choose in order to see less covering up in wide open situation.

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