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  • GopherFan
    Rookie
    • Jul 2010
    • 86

    #1

    Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

    This **** does not work. Receivers never hold there blocks long enough, the right lineman never comes of the double team, and other then the DE nobody else bites fake. Running out of the spread in general is a crap shoot in this game. This sucks becuase I wanted to run the spread option becuase that's what my team ran in highschool.
  • canes21
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 22455

    #2
    Re: Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

    I have broken off huge gains before in my Buffalo dynasty.
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    • TXHusker25
      Banned
      • Jul 2010
      • 252

      #3
      Re: Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

      I've broken a few huge gains with MarQueis Gray at QB, but not many. Everything works except blocking at the second level. The problem is the whole thing is animation based and only the read DE is programmed, so none of the other defenders are programmed to freeze or pick a player to go after, they automatically follow the ball as programmed. So you need to hope that someone blocks the guy, which rarely happens.

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      • Kobalt
        All Star
        • May 2010
        • 9674

        #4
        Re: Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

        I've got more than 10yards before.

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        • Nextel Husker
          Rookie
          • Jul 2010
          • 307

          #5
          Re: Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

          It's really rare imo. If you play on a hard difficulty the OL doesn't hold blocks very long. You need the defense to be in man and have them all line up on one side.

          At least that's how it's been on Heisman for me. Takes a long time to develop if you don't hold blocks long. JMO

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          • kblu54
            MVP
            • May 2008
            • 2732

            #6
            Re: Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

            I run almost exclusively out of the spread and average 200+ yards a game. It is hard to break off a nice QB run, but they do happen. The defensive AI will adjust to you, as I have noticed in the 2nd/3rd quarters that they will bring up their safeties or blitz LBs backside to counteract the read option.
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            • GopherFan
              Rookie
              • Jul 2010
              • 86

              #7
              Re: Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

              Originally posted by kblu54
              I run almost exclusively out of the spread and average 200+ yards a game. It is hard to break off a nice QB run, but they do happen. The defensive AI will adjust to you, as I have noticed in the 2nd/3rd quarters that they will bring up their safeties or blitz LBs backside to counteract the read option.
              What difficultly and with what team?

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              • dshill
                Rookie
                • May 2010
                • 292

                #8
                Re: Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

                yeah, I've had more read options get taken down in the backfield than any significant gains.
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                • jmik58
                  Staff Writer
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 2404

                  #9
                  Re: Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

                  To answer the question, yes I've had several runs on read options go for long gains. I've scored multiple times with runs over 50 yards on read options.

                  But to be frustrated by a lack of long runs is to not know football. Running plays aren't supposed to break for long plays very often. So there's no reason to think that a read option should automatically break for a big play more frequently.

                  It depends on how skilled your HB and QB are, especially your QB's acc/agil/speed. The only time I run the read option is when I go to the backup QB package where I have a QB that can scoot a little.

                  Of course blocking is a factor, and yes it will result in a loss of yards... but, this is where you have to pay attention to the defense.

                  You can't just run the read option (or any play) and complain because it doesn't work.

                  You have to look at the defense pre-snap every single play and audible or hot route to something else if the defense is set up to stop your play.

                  In the case of the read option, if you see an OLB/S walked up to the outside shade of the DE...don't run it! Read option teams are successful because the defense has to honor the passing game and skill on the outside as well.

                  If you see the outside edge stacked with defenders then audible to a slant because there's no one sitting in the slant zones. Or audible to something else... or change the read option to the other side.

                  The CPU defense tends to play pretty smart pre-snap, but if you know how to read a defense it's fairly to easy to be an offensive juggernaut regardless of what you have on the field.

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                  • TomC_08
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 20

                    #10
                    Re: Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

                    I had a go with Ohio State on All-American and I broke two 20+ gains with Terrelle Pryor.

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                    • rhombic21
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 591

                      #11
                      Re: Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

                      I can get long runs with the QB if I get the defense in the right alignment and the DE bites on the HB. But in a lot of formations, the aiming point for the HB is way outside so you aren't able to take advantage of your double team blocks in the middle -- thus negating the entire point of using the option. In essense, the HB portion of the read option is basically the exact same thing as if you run a designed off-tackle run with no option. Many times you end up with nobody picking up the LB and the play is dependent on WRs holding their blocks for a fairly long time before the HB can get the corner. There's no real benefit, and thus there's really no reason for the defensive end to ever chase the HB.

                      The only exception to this is the read options from sets where the HB is offset to be about a yard or so further back from the QB. These plays are much better at attacking the middle (though often times the LB still doesn't get blocked).

                      So yeah, I've gotten some huge runs with the QB on the read option, but in terms of being able to run it as a bread and butter play to get consistent gains, it's not all that effective unless you're using one of a handful of formations.

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                      • ibrokeu
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 89

                        #12
                        Re: Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

                        Originally posted by GopherFan
                        This **** does not work. Receivers never hold there blocks long enough, the right lineman never comes of the double team, and other then the DE nobody else bites fake. Running out of the spread in general is a crap shoot in this game. This sucks becuase I wanted to run the spread option becuase that's what my team ran in highschool.
                        I haven't tested it enough to say for sure but it seems like when I hot route the recievers blocking they do better.

                        I have had a few big runs from the QB using this but have always found the read option more successful in the red zone.

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                        • kblu54
                          MVP
                          • May 2008
                          • 2732

                          #13
                          Re: Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

                          What difficultly and with what team?
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                          • Slanderouscape
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                            • Aug 2010
                            • 10

                            #14
                            Re: Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

                            I've had alot of success with the read. With Michigan I've ran several 50+ yard untouched reads to the house.
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                            • browntowntiger
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 50

                              #15
                              Re: Has anyone ever gotten more then 10 yards on a read option?

                              Originally posted by Kobalt
                              I've got more than 10yards before.
                              as have i. it only really works with speedy rb's and especially qb's. the play is more effective if the qb gets the opportunity to keep the ball. ive even followed the rb into the hole if the line was completely collapsing.

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