How to deal with cheesers, specifically the nano blitz

[Hurr1cane17]

I play with the Phins on 360, and I consider myself a pretty good player. I was 14-8 before I ran into three straight nano blitzers. I would have won at least won, probably two, and maybe three of the games if there was no nano blitz. Does anyone know an easy way to fight back against these people? It's honestly making online playing unbearable for me. I just want to play against people that actually play normal. The people I played seemed pretty awful at defense besides their nano.

[mrprice33]

I play with the Phins on 360, and I consider myself a pretty good player. I was 14-8 before I ran into three straight nano blitzers. I would have won at least won, probably two, and maybe three of the games if there was no nano blitz. Does anyone know an easy way to fight back against these people? It's honestly making online playing unbearable for me. I just want to play against people that actually play normal. The people I played seemed pretty awful at defense besides their nano.

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[GoState98]

Re: How to deal with cheesers, specifically the nano blitz

what is a nano blitz ?

[Hurr1cane17]

Re: How to deal with cheesers, specifically the nano blitz

what is a nano blitz ?

basically when a player can run straight through the offensive line everytime no matter what you do.

[KANE699]

Re: How to deal with cheesers, specifically the nano blitz

Pinch the line, audible to a toss play or quick pass to the flats or tight end.

[GreenReign86]

Re: How to deal with cheesers, specifically the nano blitz

If someone is nano blitzing you, just run your offense through the shotgun, and abuse the flats, and if you have a two back set, always keep one of them in to block. I also found that toss plays work pretty well against the nano. IF his LB's have poor awareness try using the Fake FB HB toss play, because a lot of times his LB's will tackle the FB, taking them out of the play.

Another way of countering it, is by using the Wildcat, as long as he is blitzing up the middle. Just don't choose a Wildcat play that has a fake handoff in it, because it will take too long to develope. Your best bet is to just use the QB Sweep play. So that you can get around the edge as quickly as possible, and since most if not all of his LB's will be blitzing, all you would have to do is get by the DE and/or CB and it's at least 15 yards every time.

Need less to say, I have a lot of experience playing cheesers, especially nano blitzers.

[kwabalicious]

Re: How to deal with cheesers, specifically the nano blitz

Is this when the user just uses QB contain, and blitzes out of it?

[Hurr1cane17]

Re: How to deal with cheesers, specifically the nano blitz

No, it's when a person gets straight through the offensive line through a hole between a tackle and a guard or a hole between a guard and the center. it's virtually impossible to stop if the person knows how to do it.

[stealthieOne]

Re: How to deal with cheesers, specifically the nano blitz

If someone is nano blitzing you, just run your offense through the shotgun, and abuse the flats, and if you have a two back set, always keep one of them in to block. I also found that toss plays work pretty well against the nano. IF his LB's have poor awareness try using the Fake FB HB toss play, because a lot of times his LB's will tackle the FB, taking them out of the play.

Another way of countering it, is by using the Wildcat, as long as he is blitzing up the middle. Just don't choose a Wildcat play that has a fake handoff in it, because it will take too long to develope. Your best bet is to just use the QB Sweep play. So that you can get around the edge as quickly as possible, and since most if not all of his LB's will be blitzing, all you would have to do is get by the DE and/or CB and it's at least 15 yards every time.

Need less to say, I have a lot of experience playing cheesers, especially nano blitzers.

which playbook has a qb sweep?

[GreenReign86]

Re: How to deal with cheesers, specifically the nano blitz

which playbook has a qb sweep?

I' pretty sure that the Titans and Eagles PB's have it, and I' almost certain that they have it in other formations other then the WC as well. It may not be called a QB sweep par-say in the WC, but that's what it basically is when you take the snap and take off. There are a few WC plays that are straight run plays (QB, HB, WR, takes snap and follows his blockers) without any handoffs, or PA's, I consider those to be QB sweeps, but some PB's seem to have different names for the same play. Only problem is that some teams are lacking straight run plays in their respective WC formation.

[TNT713]

Re: How to deal with cheesers, specifically the nano blitz

No, it's when a person gets straight through the offensive line through a hole between a tackle and a guard or a hole between a guard and the center. it's virtually impossible to stop if the person knows how to do it.

- Stay out of Singleback. It's the easiest formation in football to A-Gap blitz...
- Motion a blocking TE to the problem area and snap the ball when he gets to the gap
- Block to the weak side with a FB from the I-Form

There are literally hundreds of things you can do... I'd start with formation. When the A-Gap is threatened, always bring your protection closer to the area you need protected. Formation is the best way to start.

Later

[adembroski]

Re: How to deal with cheesers, specifically the nano blitz

There is no such thing as a nano blitz in the "cheese" sense. If you don't have enough people to block the blitzers, you can't block them. Period. NFL teams overload all the damn time...

Interesting that someone mentioned "abusing the flats" as a counter. In this context, you aren't abusing anything. That's precisely how NFL teams counter "nano blitzing".

The nano blitz is an example of how little people really understand the sport.

"he's cheesing me by sending all his rushers from the same side!"

"HA! Cheese him back by throwing to a back to that side! MWAHAHAHA! I'm so insidious!"

Translation...

NFL Quarterback: They're overloading the weak side, we can't slide there quick enough."

NFL Head Coach: Shorten your drop, dump it off to your hot read. They can't cover everyone if everyone's coming after you.

A lot of the "realism" issues you experience online are only issues because people don't call games like NFL coaches. How often do you think NFL teams blitz? Even 3-4 teams rarely send more than 5 when they do blitz... there are 4 rushers on the majority of plays. How often do you think NFL teams bump and run? Most of them... once a quarter, maybe, in specific circumstances. How often do you think an NFL quarterback or center makes a line adjustment? Probably every other play... I'm willing to bet Madden players make line adjustments once or twice a game. How many Madden players understand hot routes (in the NFL sense, not the Madden sense)?

The nano blitz isn't a product of the other guy cheesing, its a product of you not knowing your hot receivers or accounting for potential rushers in your blocking scheme. Everyone's concerned with how to read coverage... if you really want this game to be sim, you're gonna have to learn to read the front.

[PGaither84]

Re: How to deal with cheesers, specifically the nano blitz

Obviously never dealt with a true nano in Madden 08 before slide protection.

There are a lot of ways to deal with the nano now since Madden 09. There are a lot of sim ways to deal with the nano since Madden 09. I agree with AJ, though I don't think he is giving credit where credit is do regarding the power of a nano in online play. We are still playing Madden, a game with AI flaws that people try to exploit. I haven't faced a true nano yet, at least not one I couldn't beat, but maybe it's just that, I haven't faced it yet. I tend to get the ball off quickly anyway.

@adembroski Honestly, a real nano in Madden, to me, has been when you can send around 4 rushers and get one unblocked consistently. I'm not talking about D. Freeney or J. Allen rushing you either, Set ups where your linemen "derp" on a play "every time."

[Double C]

Re: How to deal with cheesers, specifically the nano blitz

If someone is nano blitzing you, just run your offense through the shotgun, and abuse the flats, and if you have a two back set, always keep one of them in to block. I also found that toss plays work pretty well against the nano. IF his LB's have poor awareness try using the Fake FB HB toss play, because a lot of times his LB's will tackle the FB, taking them out of the play.

Another way of countering it, is by using the Wildcat, as long as he is blitzing up the middle. Just don't choose a Wildcat play that has a fake handoff in it, because it will take too long to develope. Your best bet is to just use the QB Sweep play. So that you can get around the edge as quickly as possible, and since most if not all of his LB's will be blitzing, all you would have to do is get by the DE and/or CB and it's at least 15 yards every time.

Need less to say, I have a lot of experience playing cheesers, especially nano blitzers.

Interesting. I use sweep/toss plays a lot.

[lockjaw333]

Re: How to deal with cheesers, specifically the nano blitz

I'm not really a big online player with Madden, I'm a sim guy in all sports games so playing online with randoms usually frustrates me. But I would think the game gives you enough tools to combat guys who send the house every play.

Slide protection is really useful, especially if the human player is controlling one of the blitzers and getting to your QB consistently. Slide protect his way, or as others have said motion a TE to that side, or snap the ball when he's in the gap you want to protect.

And just like in real football, hot reads are daggers to a blitzing team. Backs in the flats, quick curls or hitches, etc are all useful, and you could net a big gain if the opposing player is sending the house and leaving minimal guys in coverage.

Also, wouldn't screen passes be useful too? Screens are some of my favorite plays in football, and I love running them in Madden as well. For years I've used screens against opponents who blitz a lot and have had success. For extra time, run a slip screen or regular screen to your RB out of the shotgun. Drop back and lure the blitzers toward your QB, then right before they connect dump it to your RB. If he brought the house, there should be lots of room to run.