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Old 08-26-2010, 06:46 PM   #102
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Re: Robert Flores Goes One-On-One With EA Sports Madden NFL 11 Game Designers (ESPN)

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Originally Posted by TombSong
I am being very respectful when I say this. This is my POV of Tiburon/EA.
Some of yall are not gonna agree with it, but it don't make it any less MY POV till something they do changes my mind about them. If a forum is only for posting a view everyone agrees with then there is no such thing as a forum................

EA
You say you understand and you want to do things right. You say the cycle time does not allow you to do everything you want. Yall seem to be lately moved to add/remove features based on "data" yall see that no one else sees. Yall have access to resources that other developers can only dream about.

I think of all that and wonder how is it that smaller developers are able to produce more in a cycle than you guys. This is the 6th year of Madden on the new consoles and the sum of the content in this game is less than the sum of older games.

Formation audibles
Coverage shells
Multiple hit tackles
Move more than one person in motion
custom playbooks
Animations
Oline/Dline game play
Overall player to player interactions
presentation/Halftime show
AI
Use of ESPN
Online leagues(done first by other devs)

When you look at all the above and look at what yall have done the last 6 years it does not square with anything you say. How can these other development teams do more with less ?

Game review sites never stop and ask the question, "What can you do in the current Maddens, and what features are in the current maddens that are not done already and in most cases better in the older football games ?"

I challenge ANYONE on this board to lay the answer to that question out for all to see.

It is frustrating to have to read excuse after excuse why x,y,z cant be done, cant be fixed and yet see other dev's doing these things. A bunch of Europeans got drunk one night and decided to make a physics based football game. Do you realize now they are only 1 to 2 years away from making a completely better game than a franchise that's been out for 20+ years ?

Now everyone close there eyes and imagine. If 2K team still had the NFL license, would they not have most if not all of these things in their game now, that we are still trying to see come to fruition in madden ?

When people bring these things up it ain't to hurt feelings or cause trouble, its born out of genuine frustration. I look at what NBA2K11 is gonna be this year and it leaves your mouth watering at what we could be holding in our hands today if they could make a NFL football game.

Madden aint complete garbage but man it is not evolving. Its a year to year transition from one group of problems to another group of problems. What was working on year is half working, broken or completely removed the next. Exploits seem to be the only things that remain consistent, from nanos, to super leaping LB's, to rocket catching, and now pump fakes.

Not much is added from year to year which makes you wonder even more, how can so much get broken from year to year.

I got more to say, but don't even feel like it now...as I type I realize the pointlessness of it all.
Great post!!!!!!!!!
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