EXPAND the rosters, Madden!!!

[mkharsh33]

"If it's in the game, it's in the game..."

Okay, we've been hearing this baloney for years. I find it VERY frustrating that I can't make some basic moves because of the roster limitations per position AND the fact they STILL haven't added the ability to have practice squads.

I realize I'm talking to a brick wall (to EA) or the choir (here at OS) but are they ever going to listen to us and allow for roster editing and expansion so we have make this game more our own?

I am proud to say that EA's NHL 11 will have heard the voices of its fans LOUD and CLEAR in that we're going to get UFA & RFA and it looks to be an awesome addition. So EA can pull this off, we just need the football branch of their gaming offices to finally wake up to the idea that rosters can be expanded and another cool feature would be to pick your active 45 man roster on gamedays.

Let's get it "in the game..."

[rgp913]

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How many sales do they lose for Madden 13 if they implement that into Madden 12? I want expanded rosters as well, but it's never going to happen. A small faction that buy the new game every year for, essentially, a roster update would refrain from purchasing it each year if we had that much roster flexibility.

[Blazelore]

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you know what's funny about this is they said that they have a memory limitation as to why they can't expand rosters. However you can have a 70 man roster in NCAA but not Madden??? How can there be the same memory limitations on 360/PS3 as it was on PS1 or Xbox? It just doesn't make sense but if the NFL does go through with this 18 game schedule they're going to expand the rosters. Lets see what type of limitations they'll be then.

[franch1se]

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you know what's funny about this is they said that they have a memory limitation as to why they can't expand rosters. However you can have a 70 man roster in NCAA but not Madden??? How can there be the same memory limitations on 360/PS3 as it was on PS1 or Xbox? It just doesn't make sense but if the NFL does go through with this 18 game schedule they're going to expand the rosters. Lets see what type of limitations they'll be then.

don't forget that there are 118 teams in NCAA game. 118 teams with 70 players, I don't buy the limitation excuse Madden gives.

[ChiTown Heros]

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I would do more with the preseason than sim it if I actually got to cut players. I would love to see starting out with 75 players or so and having to get the roster down to 53 or 55 or whatever number before the season starts. I would be much more willing to play the preseason games, sit the starters, etc. I just don't see the point in preseason in the current roster format with Madden now. I use the exhibition mode to get my sliders set the way I want them anyway. So that is basically my preseason.

[Yukon46]

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The main thing I think every year....

"What's the deal with the Madden rosters ? ? ?"

The Madden Dev Team have never come out an addressed anything on Rosters that I have ever seen..... why ?

How about these questions...

Why do you still use blank silhouettes ? Why cant the in-game pic go in that area when a real photo is not available ?

Why such a small pool of players faces ? Years into a Franchise, you have like all the same faces all over the place....it's like a League of Identical Twins !

Why do you still need to limit roster movement or adjustments ? Put the restrictions on trying to play a game...dont let us start a game if it is all out of wack. But not when editing rosters.

I/R is still not a real working I/R....why ?

Why no practice squad ? Every NFL has them...

Why is the Draft Classes so small ? How after 7 rounds of the draft are there only like 5-10 players not drafted... in reality, it's like Hundreds.

Why is the F/A pool so small ? When every team in the NFL cuts down to 53 man roster, and 8 practice squad players... there is about a minimum of a 1000 FA's out there, not a couple hundred !

Madden uses a 55 man roster limit....that's not NFL, so why that number ?

Since all these other things mentioned above cant be done apparently, why not just make the roster limit 60 ? It seems that would even help your roster maker.

It also does not seem right that when roster edits are made on EA's end, that players just disappear !

Why cant they go into the F/A pool, it just does not make sense, you have pictures of these guys in the game, they were in the last update, then poof they get cut and they are out of the game, period....not in the F/A's, just gone..... why ?

[mrod009]

Re: EXPAND the rosters, Madden!!!

The main thing I think every year....

"What's the deal with the Madden rosters ? ? ?"

The Madden Dev Team have never come out an addressed anything on Rosters that I have ever seen..... why ?

How about these questions...

Why do you still use blank silhouettes ? Why cant the in-game pic go in that area when a real photo is not available ?

Why such a small pool of players faces ? Years into a Franchise, you have like all the same faces all over the place....it's like a League of Identical Twins !

Why do you still need to limit roster movement or adjustments ? Put the restrictions on trying to play a game...dont let us start a game if it is all out of wack. But not when editing rosters.

I/R is still not a real working I/R....why ?

Why no practice squad ? Every NFL has them...

Why is the Draft Classes so small ? How after 7 rounds of the draft are there only like 5-10 players not drafted... in reality, it's like Hundreds.

Why is the F/A pool so small ? When every team in the NFL cuts down to 53 man roster, and 8 practice squad players... there is about a minimum of a 1000 FA's out there, not a couple hundred !

Madden uses a 55 man roster limit....that's not NFL, so why that number ?

Since all these other things mentioned above cant be done apparently, why not just make the roster limit 60 ? It seems that would even help your roster maker.

It also does not seem right that when roster edits are made on EA's end, that players just disappear !

Why cant they go into the F/A pool, it just does not make sense, you have pictures of these guys in the game, they were in the last update, then poof they get cut and they are out of the game, period....not in the F/A's, just gone..... why ?

Completely agree...this would make franchise a lot better. This game doesn't have long snappers either.

[goravens2052]

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Completely agree...this would make franchise a lot better. This game doesn't have long snappers either.

I agree as well and the thing I noticed is that looking at the details of the 2nd roster update they released all the injured players who are on IR are being removed from the team? Why remove injured players from the team that makes no sense and I guess they do that since the roster is so limited. I also see alot of removal because of too low on depth, well expanded rosters would help both where you can keep the IR people and the guys low on depth so we can cut them ourselves.

[AussieCowboysfan]

Re: EXPAND the rosters, Madden!!!

The main thing I think every year....

"What's the deal with the Madden rosters ? ? ?"

The Madden Dev Team have never come out an addressed anything on Rosters that I have ever seen..... why ?

How about these questions...

Why do you still use blank silhouettes ? Why cant the in-game pic go in that area when a real photo is not available ?

Why such a small pool of players faces ? Years into a Franchise, you have like all the same faces all over the place....it's like a League of Identical Twins !

Why do you still need to limit roster movement or adjustments ? Put the restrictions on trying to play a game...dont let us start a game if it is all out of wack. But not when editing rosters.

I/R is still not a real working I/R....why ?

Why no practice squad ? Every NFL has them...

Why is the Draft Classes so small ? How after 7 rounds of the draft are there only like 5-10 players not drafted... in reality, it's like Hundreds.

Why is the F/A pool so small ? When every team in the NFL cuts down to 53 man roster, and 8 practice squad players... there is about a minimum of a 1000 FA's out there, not a couple hundred !

Madden uses a 55 man roster limit....that's not NFL, so why that number ?

Since all these other things mentioned above cant be done apparently, why not just make the roster limit 60 ? It seems that would even help your roster maker.

It also does not seem right that when roster edits are made on EA's end, that players just disappear !

Why cant they go into the F/A pool, it just does not make sense, you have pictures of these guys in the game, they were in the last update, then poof they get cut and they are out of the game, period....not in the F/A's, just gone..... why ?

I could not agree more it can not be that hard to add a 80 man or 75 man preseason roster seeing as the game comes out in preseason on the dsk each team should have the 80 players that they have in the preseason then we can do the cuts down to 61, the 53 player main roster and 8 man practice squad when we start our franchises. and the 45 man game day roster is a must have they would be awesome.

Also why is there no long snappers in the game they need to add those EA if its in the game its in the game

[ChiTown Heros]

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I could not agree more it can not be that hard to add a 80 man or 75 man preseason roster seeing as the game comes out in preseason on the dsk each team should have the 80 players that they have in the preseason then we can do the cuts down to 61, the 53 player main roster and 8 man practice squad when we start our franchises. and the 45 man game day roster is a must have they would be awesome.

Also why is there no long snappers in the game they need to add those EA if its in the game its in the game

The special teams, primarily kickoffs, is what gets me. I have my starting linebackers, wideouts, and db's running down on kickoffs. It makes me think of Steve Tasker and the guy for the cowboys, can't remember his name, that made it to the probowl strickly as a special teams guy. Rosters are the most important aspect of a game for me personally. I would give up the become a superstar mode, classic nfl scenarios, and all that other stuff, for expanded rosters for me to pick and choose who makes the team and who doesn't based on performace. That would make a perfect game for me.

[GCCSteel]

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The special teams, primarily kickoffs, is what gets me. I have my starting linebackers, wideouts, and db's running down on kickoffs.

^This. All NFL teams carry gunners, special teamers and long snappers just for these instances. Why can't I even choose to remove starters from these units?

Madden has never gotten the roster correct and it always upsets me. In addition to the 55 (what?), what about the rediculous roster restrictions. Why do I need to carry 2 LT, 2 RT, 2 LG, 2 RG and 2 C? Where is the NFL stipulation that mandates that? Teams regularly carry only 9 generic OL players on the roster with 1 or 2 players being the primary backup at multiple positions. It would be more realistic if players were listed as T, G, C and only the depth chart and "position knowledge" made the distinction between particular positions.

How about 3-4 and 4-3 roster differences? Why does my 3-4 defense need 3 minimum DT? How come I can't designate who my Buck and Mack inside linebackers are? Would Julius Peppers really play LDE in a 3-4 scheme?

I always use the coin toss as an example of the Madden teams poor attention to detail or lack of interest therewithin. Before last season (in the NFL), if you won the toss you could choose the ball or the side of field to defend. For years the Madden team did not follow this simple measure. They had college rules where you could defer the coin toss upon winning. The only way Madden got it right was by a rule change in the NFL! Its probably the furthest thing from a big deal, but shows where their head is at.

Tiburon is much more interested in the sexy additions that bring sales but rarely last more than an edition or two (cone vision?). I say focus on the details and the sales will follow.

[stlstudios189]

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MLB 2k series has all 4 leagues single A - MLB for 75 players there is no reason that Madden can't fit more

[MissionMaximus]

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"If it's in the game, it's in the game..."

Okay, we've been hearing this baloney for years. I find it VERY frustrating that I can't make some basic moves because of the roster limitations per position AND the fact they STILL haven't added the ability to have practice squads.

I realize I'm talking to a brick wall (to EA) or the choir (here at OS) but are they ever going to listen to us and allow for roster editing and expansion so we have make this game more our own?

I am proud to say that EA's NHL 11 will have heard the voices of its fans LOUD and CLEAR in that we're going to get UFA & RFA and it looks to be an awesome addition. So EA can pull this off, we just need the football branch of their gaming offices to finally wake up to the idea that rosters can be expanded and another cool feature would be to pick your active 45 man roster on gamedays.

Let's get it "in the game..."

Yeah I agree that it is crazy that they can't incorporate an expanded roster to make exhibition games matter. That and the fact that they have limited spots so alot of players are missing. I downloaded the latest roster file and they added (Saints) J. Casillas & added Rod Harper, erased A. Arrington. The problem with that is they cut R. Harper last week and A. Arrington seems to be a lock to make the team but he is no longer in the game. That's not to mention several other missing Saints ie..Chris Ivory.

If it's in the game it should be in the game!!!
Madden's lack of depth prevents me from playing the game. I catch myself going back to The Show because it has depth. Madden just feels Simple, maybe that's why their slogan is Simplier,Quicker, not so much deeper.The lack of depth with everything just prevents me from enjoying Madden like it has since the next-gen incarnation. I buy it like an idiot every year and play it for a couple hours then go back to the Show or ArmA II.

[MissionMaximus]

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How many sales do they lose for Madden 13 if they implement that into Madden 12? I want expanded rosters as well, but it's never going to happen. A small faction that buy the new game every year for, essentially, a roster update would refrain from purchasing it each year if we had that much roster flexibility.

Sadly I think that's where were headed. This whole online membership online pass thing with EA has me wondering.