NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

[da ThRONe]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

I'm not in the group that supports giving everyone the ability and limiting the success rate. That said, the game does have a specific and separate dunk, layup, and shot control. You press towards the basket and Up on the skill stick and you will attempt a dunk. You roll up from left or right and you attempt a layup. You leave the LS neutral and it is a shot.

For those that are saying the problem isn't that Boozer attempted the dunk but that he made it, that is inconsistent with players that can't/don't dunk. Take Fisher, UP on the stick for fisher doesn't have him attempt a dunk, but a layup, why? Because he doesn't dunk.

So already there are context sensitive (as far as who is doing it) animation limits.

By the logic i'm reading from you guys, Fisher should attempt a dunk and get rim-checked instead. I can't agree with that. It makes more sense and is more sim to give guys packages that fit their real life counterpart than to let anyone do anything for the sake of preaching total control.

For the Boozer dunk, he should have jumped up in layup animation like what Fisher had because the game should know that he can not dunk from there. From there, physics should have led to a collision of some sort. The dunk range should be reduced but it makes you question the people playing this game everyday that we have to point that out. It's not like it's Ron Artest from the dotted circle, it's guys from the free throw line.

If there is a different set of commands for dunking and lay-ups and I attempt a dunk with a Fisher or Nash I should fail not just automatically attempt a lay-up because thats the only thing they can do. To me that is control.

[real baller]

i cant wait till i get my hands on dis game i see some potential with all dis freedom...see da thing is alot of these lames dont know basketbal..they just tap da steal button a million times, shoot glitch threes,abuse da offensive foul button, sit in zone d in wait for glitch steals ....see these arcade ballers they dont know how to walk the ball up pass down to da post kick da ball back out ...swing da ball around make dat extra pass and get a high percentage shot. see a baller like me probably get dis game and make it look beautiful cause i know how to play basketball

[23]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

If there is a different set of commands for dunking and lay-ups and I attempt a dunk with a Fisher or Nash I should fail not just automatically attempt a lay-up because thats the only thing they can do. To me that is control.

Sounds more like NBA Jam than NBA Basketball man

[mlp111]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

i cant wait till i get my hands on dis game i see some potential with all dis freedom...see da thing is alot of these lames dont know basketbal..they just tap da steal button a million times, shoot glitch threes,abuse da offensive foul button, sit in zone d in wait for glitch steals ....see these arcade ballers they dont know how to walk the ball up pass down to da post kick da ball back out ...swing da ball around make dat extra pass and get a high percentage shot. see a baller like me probably get dis game and make it look beautiful cause i know how to play basketball

i was think that too, but then i realized that what i see in the videos, will be so close to what i would probably be on line because a majority of people dont care about Sim style gaming online, they just want to get a W (win) for their record, so it will be very similar to the videos i have seen, and im not feeling that at all, so i personally wont be getting the game, i will however try out the demo, if demo is great, i could possibly change my mind, but i highly doubt it, i believe online will look and play exactly like those clips, probably a bit cleaner, but same results

[da ThRONe]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

Sounds more like NBA Jam than NBA Basketball man

How so? If EA is selling control is it wrong to expect anything less? How is this not real basketball? If Nash attempted a dunk he would most likely fail just like he should if he attempted a dunk in Elite. The moral is dont attempted a dunk with a guy who can't complete that kind of dunk.

Just like with the quick vid of Bynum going behind the back and losing the ball same principle.

[23]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

How so? If EA is selling control is it wrong to expect anything less? How is this not real basketball? If Nash attempted a dunk he would most likely fail just like he should if he attempted a dunk in Elite. The moral is dont attempted a dunk with a guy who can't complete that kind of dunk.

Just like with the quick vid of Bynum going behind the back and losing the ball same principle.

Oh its real basketball alright, but just not NBA basketball.

Might as well call it EA Sports Basketball 11 if this kind of craziness is involved.

[Tha_Kid]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

If there is a different set of commands for dunking and lay-ups and I attempt a dunk with a Fisher or Nash I should fail not just automatically attempt a lay-up because thats the only thing they can do. To me that is control.

Well the thing is that is not how it works in Elite, so already the game isn't living up to your idea of total control. Guys like Fisher and Nash will do layups period. Likewise, very few guys should be able to trigger a dunk from anywhere near the FT line and only with no one near them. This should be fixed.

[Rocboyz101]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

When do you ever see nash or fisher even attempt to dunk? Theres a fine line between control and realism.

[erickonasis]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

When do you ever see nash or fisher even attempt to dunk? Theres a fine line between control and realism.

Im starting to think some of the people here dont watch any NBA games just the highlights

[coolcras7]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

Sounds more like NBA Jam than NBA Basketball man

It seems like people have different views on control, for me control is being able to do what I want to when i want, but I should be limited to what that specific player is capable of doing and not doing unrealistic things or playing a style of ball that the specific play is not know for, it's hard to be considered sim if people are giving the ability to play too unrealistic.

[23]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

Well the thing is that is not how it works in Elite, so already the game isn't living up to your idea of total control. Guys like Fisher and Nash will do layups period. Likewise, very few guys should be able to trigger a dunk from anywhere near the FT line and only with no one near them. This should be fixed.

but the underlying thinking is, you're limiting me as a user because I should be able to do anything I want to do no matter what it is

See where the disconnect begins?

[23]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

It seems like people have different views on control, for me control is being able to do what I want to when i want, but I should be limited to what that specific player is capable of doing and not doing unrealistic things or playing a style of ball that the specific play is not know for.

Yeah I know that, its the implementation of the idea.. The idea of control itself is not wrong, but how one thinks it should be implemented.

[erickonasis]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

It seems like people have different views on control, for me control is being able to do what I want to when i want, but I should be limited to what that specific player is capable of doing and not doing unrealistic things or playing a style of ball that the specific play is not know for.

so in other words you want to be able to have the choice to attempt a dunk from the FT line with Big Baby Davis because "its all about control"....like 23 said you might as well go play NBA jam which you have the option to do if you purchase this. Like i said i dont think many here watch NBA games just the highlights

[da ThRONe]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

Oh its real basketball alright, but just not NBA basketball.

Might as well call it EA Sports Basketball 11 if this kind of craziness is involved.

Well the thing is that is not how it works in Elite, so already the game isn't living up to your idea of total control. Guys like Fisher and Nash will do layups period. Likewise, very few guys should be able to trigger a dunk from anywhere near the FT line and only with no one near them. This should be fixed.

When do you ever see nash or fisher even attempt to dunk? Theres a fine line between control and realism.

If I'm controlling Nash or Fisher and I control them to attempted a dunk then IMO thats exactly what they should attempt to do.

Now Should the A.I. have guys who have no business attempting dunks trying? Ofcourse not. But if I'm telling them to I like the idea. I'm not broken hearted that guys wont attempt the dunk if they cant but I just think this is the way it should be.

Are we going to limit people throwing up half court shots too? If I press the shoot button the player I'm controlling should attempt the shot no matter where I am on the court and I feel it should be like that with all things user controlled.

[Jano]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

i was think that too, but then i realized that what i see in the videos, will be so close to what i would probably be on line because a majority of people dont care about Sim style gaming online, they just want to get a W (win) for their record, so it will be very similar to the videos i have seen, and im not feeling that at all, so i personally wont be getting the game, i will however try out the demo, if demo is great, i could possibly change my mind, but i highly doubt it, i believe online will look and play exactly like those clips, probably a bit cleaner, but same results

Good post mlp but my thing is almost all games look terrible when you have 2 terrible users playing.

Even though 2K11 won't look nearly as bad with two bad users it will still be an ugly representation of the game regardless.

Now I know your complaints are mostly with the overall look of the animations but I'm sure with sim gamers it will be much more tolerable. Just for the simple fact that the game will be more methodical and less of a frantic style of bball.

And besides we always have a choice to play with cheesers or inexperienced users so if you don't like the way they play just don't play them. Get what i'm saying?

That way you can still get a game that resembles real life basketball.