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    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66560

    #361
    Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

    Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
    I think shots outside of the dotted lines should result in tear-drops, floaters or double-clutch shots if there's not an open lane and/or it's not a fast break situation. That's if you decide to choose a "dunk scenario" by the combination of buttons. Should be tied to jumping and dunking rating. If you choose a layup, you obviously get the specified layups that are already implemented.

    I hate to take away the "control" they're preaching, but at some point you have to sacrifice that for realism. If the scenarios are like I proposed above, it helps provide that authenticy that the game lacks and gets rid of these rocket, unrealistic dunks by anyone who chooses to attempt a dunk attempt.
    You know man, basketball is a very artistic game in nature and is not without its limits. As I said, if I can do anything with anybody as with some of the stuff I saw, then why not just call the game EA Basketball 11, but I understand the clash in philosophy and

    This is exactly why some people will enjoy the game and some people wont buy it.

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    • da ThRONe
      Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
      • Mar 2009
      • 8557

      #362
      Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

      Originally posted by erickonasis
      totally different situation...u see random players throwing up half court shots depending on the situation in a real life game...However you dont see Shaq dunking from the FT line
      My point is if Shaq wanted to he could do so(attempt)?. Just like I can pick a player on LIVE 10 get the in bound pass and heave 80 foot attempts at the basket ,but I wouldnt because thats stupid. Same here don't take my ability to do something just because it wont work.
      You looking at the Chair MAN!

      Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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      • da ThRONe
        Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
        • Mar 2009
        • 8557

        #363
        Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

        Originally posted by Rocboyz101
        But nash and fisher can actually shoot halfcourt shots..
        And they both can attempt a dunk. And I wouldnt be surprised if either one could dunk.
        You looking at the Chair MAN!

        Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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        • erickonasis
          MVP
          • Jan 2006
          • 3016

          #364
          Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

          Originally posted by da ThRONe
          My point is if Shaq wanted to he could do so(attempt)?. Just like I can pick a player on LIVE 10 get the in bound pass and heave 80 foot attempts at the basket ,but I wouldnt because thats stupid. Same here don't take my ability to do something just because it wont work.
          Just curious why would you even want to see that in a game? what exactly does someone attempting to dunk from the ft line with Shaq add to the Game?
          SLIDERS SUCK

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          • da ThRONe
            Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
            • Mar 2009
            • 8557

            #365
            Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

            People what is so "unrealistic" about attempting a dunk? I know 3 year-olds that can attempt a dunk.

            I dont want Boozer completing a dunk from the FT line anymore than anybody in here. But if a user wants to attempt to I see no reason why he shouldnt be able to.
            You looking at the Chair MAN!

            Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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            • real baller
              Banned
              • Aug 2010
              • 19

              #366
              yep sniff457 u exactly right people are gonna have to start taking responsibility for their sloppy garbage gameplay if u wanna shoot fade-away with shaq and perkins go ahead shoot yaself out da game lol dummy thank u ea for giving these arcade ballers da poison to kill theyself now u gonna have to know how to play basketball ...dats all ea just fix da passing so its not a million suction magnetised steal a game..and puts some height on da passes , fix da ice skating , takeaway da invisible forcefields in the corners ,and if these arcade ballers keep tryna steal all game let them foul out from reaching in to much ,and also if im in da post with prince against mo will let be able to just dog em down lown from him being too small let height weight and momentum mean something yall back on track ea keep up the good work ! yes yes yes thank god the post game is back!.. back to the basics cuz

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              • HoosierDaddy
                Pro
                • Jul 2005
                • 863

                #367
                Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                Originally posted by 23
                You know man, basketball is a very artistic game in nature and is not without its limits. As I said, if I can do anything with anybody as with some of the stuff I saw, then why not just call the game EA Basketball 11, but I understand the clash in philosophy and

                This is exactly why some people will enjoy the game and some people wont buy it.
                Same could be said with dribbling. We had the debate while we were at community day about what should happen when big men dribble the ball. Yes, they obviously CAN dribble between their legs, but how often do you see it? It's either slow down the animation and decrease the success of such a move and eventually depending on pressure lose the ball or you allow them to pull off the same types of moves that PGs can do at will. Just because they CAN do it, doesn't mean it's realistic. My whole point is, how often do you see it while you're watching NBA basketball, very rarely. So the game should reflect as much.

                Shot attempts are a different story, you CHOOSE to take that shot. That's something that is more in your control, per say. You never see those unless it's a last second shot attempt, but when you see players who never dribble or dunk like that, it seriously adds to the unauthentic nature of a game.
                Last edited by HoosierDaddy; 08-31-2010, 04:24 PM.

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                • da ThRONe
                  Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 8557

                  #368
                  Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                  Originally posted by erickonasis
                  Just curious why would you even want to see that in a game? what exactly does someone attempting to dunk from the ft line with Shaq add to the Game?
                  Control. Thats all. Once again I'm not broken up about it one way or the other. I want to attempt any and everything with every player. I just want the outcome of that act to be based on the players size, weight and, ratings.
                  You looking at the Chair MAN!

                  Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                  • erickonasis
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 3016

                    #369
                    Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                    Originally posted by real baller
                    yep sniff457 u exactly right people are gonna have to start taking responsibility for their sloppy garbage gameplay if u wanna shoot fade-away with shaq and perkins go ahead shoot yaself out da game lol dummy thank u ea for giving these arcade ballers da poison to kill theyself
                    So in other words EA should add ridiculous animations to the game just so the user can have control...Might as well give the use the ability to fly through the air from foul line to foul line as well
                    SLIDERS SUCK

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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66560

                      #370
                      Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                      Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
                      Same could be said with dribbling. We had the debate while we were at community day about what should happen when big men dribble the ball. Yes, they obviously CAN dribble between their legs, but how often do you see it? It's either slow down the animation and decrease the success of such a move and eventually depending on pressure lose the ball or you allow them to pull off the same types of moves that PGs can do at will. Just because they CAN do it, doesn't mean it's realistic. My whole point is, how often do you see it while you're watching NBA basketball, very rarely. So the game should reflect as much.
                      I agree with this point and the last one

                      We have similar minds on all of this and that the points I've been making

                      The philosophies of the control pundits though dont want to hear what you're saying... Its all control or not

                      As I said, the extreme cases are never good on either side, and a balance should be struck from the get go

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                      • erickonasis
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 3016

                        #371
                        Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                        Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
                        Same could be said with dribbling. We had the debate while we were at community day about what should happen when big men dribble the ball. Yes, they obviously CAN dribble between their legs, but how often do you see it? It's either slow down the animation and decrease the success of such a move and eventually depending on pressure lose the ball or you allow them to pull off the same types of moves that PGs can do at will. Just because they CAN do it, doesn't mean it's realistic. My whole point is, how often do you see it while you're watching NBA basketball, very rarely. So the game should reflect as much.

                        Shot attempts are a different story, you CHOOSE to take that shot. That's something that is more in your control, per say. You never see those unless it's a last second shot attempt, but when you see players who never dribble or dunk like that, it seriously adds to the unauthentic nature of a game.
                        Which goes to show you some people must not watch NBA basketball AT ALL. Leave ESPN alone and do some research by actually watching a game.
                        SLIDERS SUCK

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                        • HoosierDaddy
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 863

                          #372
                          Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                          OK. Say Fisher attempts a dunk, realistically what would happen? Would he miss the dunk? Would he re-adjust his shot "attempt" and change into a layup because he realizes he can't get that high, unless on a fast break with no one around? Both things would probably happen, but you'd see the latter, 95% of the time in an NBA game. Just because they attempt a dunk attempt doesn't mean it NEEDS to be a dunk. Go hard to the rim and finish strong with a layup.

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                          • real baller
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 19

                            #373
                            IF ANYBODY IS STUPID ENOUGH TO KEEP TRYING CROSS -OVER DRIBBLES WITH SHAQ ...THEN DATS DEY DUMB FAULT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YA SLOPPY ARCADISH GLITCH GAMEPLAY ..... PERIOD!!

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                            • da ThRONe
                              Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 8557

                              #374
                              Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                              Originally posted by 23
                              First of all Fisher doesnt have the agility in real life to attempt a dunk, let alone Boozers surgically repaired knee shouldnt have an attribute to take into effect him jumping from that far just for the sake of control


                              Thats a straight up arcade video game, not a sim
                              You mean to tell me Fisher couldnt even attempt a dunk? And if you take control of Boozer and make him jump from the FT line he shouldnt get anywhere near the rim. It should be like what happens when you take control of a player and make him jump. He should either have to pass or get an up and down violation.
                              You looking at the Chair MAN!

                              Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                              • HoosierDaddy
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 863

                                #375
                                Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                                Originally posted by erickonasis
                                Which goes to show you some people must not watch NBA basketball AT ALL. Leave ESPN alone and do some research by actually watching a game.
                                Not sure what you're getting at here. I want as sim experience as we can get in a game. I don't want noobs cheesing and using Gasol as a PG dribbling between his legs and crossing people over. Do you see that in NBA basketball games you watch? I think not..

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