NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

[ajknows]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

its also unrealistic

But thats the user's choice not the games, so if you don't like don't do it, it's that simple.

[Tha_Kid]

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its also unrealistic

How exactly?

[rEAnimator]

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its also unrealistic

The moment you take over what a player is doing you have the ability to make it unrealistic.

If I stand still with the player through an entire half court possession that's unrealistic, but you wouldn't want the player to just start moving around with no input would you?

The fact that you have the control to make the game look unrealistic doesn't change the fact that it is still a sim game.

You can definitely argue that aspects of the sim aren't well implemented or as realistic as they could be, but it is definitely a sim game.

[HoosierDaddy]

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I'm all for the control, if it's within the boundaries of being realistic. You never see players do dunks from that distance unless it's a superstar who has jaw-dropping athleticism and is on the break or has a clear lane to the rack. Seeing players like Boozer pulling off dunks from that distance or seeing Fisher attempt a dunk (when you never see it in real-life) is unrealistic, IMO. Another selection of shots needs to be implemented from the dotted line out (tear drops, floaters, double clutch shots, hook shots, 1 handed push shots), and completely scrap the idea of giving you the control to choose whether to attempt a dunk or not with players like Fisher, Nash, etc..

Now, that will cover most of your PG's and PF's. Tie those in with ratings such as jumping and dunking and you have a pretty sim experience and don't really sacrifice control either, because it makes the whole experience realistic.

[Jano]

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its also unrealistic

The attempt isn't really the unrealistic part, its the way it looks that makes it unrealistic imo.

Guys shouldn't be able to do things that are physically impossible like Boozer did but attempting to do them is a whole different issue.

I shouldn't be able to dunk like Boozer did in that clip because its not something he or anybody else could do irl imo.

If the player wants to attempt a dunk thats fine but visually they shouldn't be doing what he did. They should take a few more steps to the basket not rocket jump to complete the dunk.

[da ThRONe]

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So in other words they should totally add a bunch of unrealistic animations for the users....I'm done

What unrealistic about a guy missing a dunk? Whats unrealistic about bigs that cant dribble losing the ball. Whats unrealistic about players doing awkward moves? I see this all the time IRL.

[erickonasis]

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I'm all for the control, if it's within the boundaries of being realistic. You never see players do dunks from that distance unless it's a superstar who has jaw-dropping athleticism and is on the break or has a clear lane to the rack. Seeing players like Boozer pulling off dunks from that distance or seeing Fisher attempt a dunk (when you never see it in real-life) is unrealistic, IMO. Another selection of shots needs to be implemented from the dotted line out (tear drops, floaters, double clutch shots, hook shots, 1 handed push shots), and completely scrap the idea of giving you the control to choose whether to attempt a dunk or not with players like Fisher, Nash, etc..

Now, that will cover most of your PG's and PF's. Tie those in with ratings such as jumping and dunking and you have a pretty sim experience and don't really sacrifice control either, because it makes the whole experience realistic.

Thank you....This i will agree with

[erickonasis]

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What unrealistic about a guy missing a dunk? Whats unrealistic about a bigs that cant dribble losing the ball. Whats unrealistic about players doing awkward moves? I see this all the time IRL.

I thought this was an NBA game?

[Tha_Kid]

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I thought this was an NBA game?

Every thing he mentioned has been possible in practically every NBA game in the last 5 years.

[erickonasis]

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Every thing he mentioned has been possible in practically every NBA game in the last 5 years.

Funny Ive never seen Boozer do that nor new it was possible that he ever could do that

[real baller]

EXACTLY IF DONT KNOW WHAT U DOING IN BASKETBALL ITS GONNA SHOW ( FOR EXAMPLE IF MY 4 YEAR OLD COUSIN IS PLAYING ELITE AND HE DONT KNOW EVERYTHING BOUT BASKETBALL THEN ITS GONNA SHOW ) ON THE OTHER HAND IF I WHO KNOW ALOT BOUT BASKETBALL PLAYING ELITE IM GONNA HAVE SUCCESS WITH THE GAME NO MORE PRE-CANNED ANIMATION POTTY TRAINING

[da ThRONe]

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I'm all for the control, if it's within the boundaries of being realistic. You never see players do dunks from that distance unless it's a superstar who has jaw-dropping athleticism and is on the break or has a clear lane to the rack. Seeing players like Boozer pulling off dunks from that distance or seeing Fisher attempt a dunk (when you never see it in real-life) is unrealistic, IMO. Another selection of shots needs to be implemented from the dotted line out (tear drops, floaters, double clutch shots, hook shots, 1 handed push shots), and completely scrap the idea of giving you the control to choose whether to attempt a dunk or not with players like Fisher, Nash, etc..

Now, that will cover most of your PG's and PF's. Tie those in with ratings such as jumping and dunking and you have a pretty sim experience and don't really sacrifice control either, because it makes the whole experience realistic.

My thing is this things like animations of guys missing dunks and taking off from an area should be in the games already. So what difference does it makes if me the user controls Nash and go hard to the basket and try to dunk? How does this some how ruin the game or kill the realism of it?

[ajknows]

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Great post Hoosier and i actually saw some of the things you posted while watching the game. I remember watching Kobe and Fisher shooting runners when the player tried to attempt a dunk to far out.

Thats what leads me to believe its a ratings issue that has a lot to do with vertical, dunk, and strength. It seemed like the strength of the player allowed them to do things like dunk the ball with little or no momentum.

Check out the Bynum dunk at 1:17

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Then compare that to the Boozer dunk and it seems like the strength rating allows these guys to disregard the players in front of them. If he happens to be stronger then them and has the momentum advantage. It made more sense on the Bynum dunk then on the Boozer one though.

And if we look at D rose (at 1:14) as he goes to the basket he attempts a leaner instead of trying to dunk. Where as with Boozer it MAY have been a dunk instead. Another strength example with Shaq too (at 0:30).

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What bothers me just as much is the odd A.I. I keep seeing, if you look at the picture 014 vid on here at the 1:20 mark what the heck is Joakim Noah doing? He just stands there starring in the crowd while the play goes on around him.

[erickonasis]

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EXACTLY IF DONT KNOW WHAT U DOING IN BASKETBALL ITS GONNA SHOW ( FOR EXAMPLE IF MY 4 YEAR OLD COUSIN IS PLAYING ELITE AND HE DONT KNOW EVERYTHING BOUT BASKETBALL THEN ITS GONNA SHOW ) ON THE OTHER HAND IF I WHO KNOW ALOT BOUT BASKETBALL PLAYING ELITE IM GONNA HAVE SUCCESS WITH THE GAME NO MORE PRE-CANNED ANIMATION POTTY TRAINING

Please easy on the caps...and ive been playing and watching Basketball probably before most of you here were even born

[HoosierDaddy]

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My thing is this things like animations of guys missing dunks and taking off from an area should be in the games already. So what difference does it makes if me the user controls Nash and go hard to the basket and try to dunk? How does this some how ruin the game or kill the realism of it?

I agree more animations need to be in the game. It lacks the depth, but that's understandable due to the control they have provided in a 1-year cycle. Problem is, how often do you see missed dunks in games? Players like Nash attempt dunks in games? All depends on the situation of a game too, half court offense, fast break, help-side defense late to rotate, etc..