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  • DavonBrown
    MVP
    • Oct 2008
    • 1486

    #511
    Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

    Wow! I was planning on buying both NBA games this year, but those videos do not look good. Honestly, they look terrible. I hope the demo changes my opinion of the game.

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    • Nines
      Rookie
      • Oct 2009
      • 244

      #512
      Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

      Eh... will reserve judgement for demo.
      Rocket Fuel.

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      • HoosierDaddy
        Pro
        • Jul 2005
        • 863

        #513
        Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

        Let me clarify my issue, one last time. I want control within boundaries of their real-life counterpart. No players dunking that you don't see dunk, no players dribbling between their legs, that don't do so in a NBA game.

        Now that's out of the way... Here's my issue. I don't like the contextual shots that happen in proximity to the rim. Yes, you choose the type of shot - but how often do you see Nowitzki shooting a regular jumpshot 3 foot from the basket? I think the game should adapt to the location you are and regardless of the type of shot you attempt, a realistic animation attempt play out. Look at the following clip. Shots like this are what has plagued this franchise for years.

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        Last edited by HoosierDaddy; 09-01-2010, 10:23 AM.

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        • erickonasis
          MVP
          • Jan 2006
          • 3018

          #514
          Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

          Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
          Let me clarify my issue, one last time. I want control within boundaries of their real-life counterpart. No players dunking that you don't see dunk, no players dribbling between their legs, that don't do so in a NBA game.

          Now that's out of the way... Here's my issue. I don't like the contextual shots that happen in proximity to the rim. Yes, you choose the type of shot - but how often do you see Nowitzki shooting a regular jumpshot 3 foot from the basket? I think the game should adapt to the location you are and regardless of the type of shot you attempt, a realistic animation attempt play out. Look at the following clip. Shots like this are what has plagued this franchise for years.

          <object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://www.flickr.com/apps/video/stewart.swf?v=71377" classid="clsid<img src=" forums="" images="" smilies="" biggrin.gif="" alt="" title="Big Grin" smilieid="3" class="inlineimg" border="0" width="400" height="300">27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000">



          <embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.flickr.com/apps/video/stewart.swf?v=71377" bgcolor="#000000" allowfullscreen="true" flashvars="intl_lang=en-us&photo_secret=d86535b8d9&photo_id=4948420156" width="400" height="300"></object>
          yes thats definitely a great point
          SLIDERS SUCK

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          • NoTiCe_O
            Pro
            • May 2009
            • 971

            #515
            Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

            Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
            Let me clarify my issue, one last time. I want control within boundaries of their real-life counterpart. No players dunking that you don't see dunk, no players dribbling between their legs, that don't do so in a NBA game.

            Now that's out of the way... Here's my issue. I don't like the contextual shots that happen in proximity to the rim. Yes, you choose the type of shot - but how often do you see Nowitzki shooting a regular jumpshot 3 foot from the basket? I think the game should adapt to the location you are and regardless of the type of shot you attempt, a realistic animation attempt play out. Look at the following clip. Shots like this are what has plagued this franchise for years.

            <object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://www.flickr.com/apps/video/stewart.swf?v=71377" classid="clsid<img src=" forums="" images="" smilies="" biggrin.gif="" alt="" title="Big Grin" smilieid="3" class="inlineimg" border="0" width="400" height="300">27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000">



            <embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.flickr.com/apps/video/stewart.swf?v=71377" bgcolor="#000000" allowfullscreen="true" flashvars="intl_lang=en-us&photo_secret=d86535b8d9&photo_id=4948420156" width="400" height="300"></object>
            Well its realistic to me. I mean everyone says they want sim. Sim just stands short for Simulation, contextual shots simulate real life basketball. In real life you slow down before you pull up for a jumper you don't just keep running. Maybe they could just tone it down if its too overdone.

            But that's kinda the users fault cause he could went for a right or left handed layup right there but he chose not to.
            Twitter - @OtistheOriginal

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            • HoosierDaddy
              Pro
              • Jul 2005
              • 863

              #516
              Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

              you would shoot a normal jump shot leaning into the basket with a 7 foot big man? I know it's user-controlled and he chose that animation. My point is, the shot should change depending on your location to the rim.
              Last edited by HoosierDaddy; 09-01-2010, 11:01 AM.

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              • fatleg3
                MVP
                • Aug 2008
                • 3604

                #517
                Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
                Let me clarify my issue, one last time. I want control within boundaries of their real-life counterpart. No players dunking that you don't see dunk, no players dribbling between their legs, that don't do so in a NBA game.

                Now that's out of the way... Here's my issue. I don't like the contextual shots that happen in proximity to the rim. Yes, you choose the type of shot - but how often do you see Nowitzki shooting a regular jumpshot 3 foot from the basket? I think the game should adapt to the location you are and regardless of the type of shot you attempt, a realistic animation attempt play out. Look at the following clip. Shots like this are what has plagued this franchise for years.

                <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/k1TLopTePe8?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/k1TLopTePe8?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
                I dont know if you put the travel bubble thing in there but that wasnt a travel

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                • erickonasis
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3018

                  #518
                  Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                  Originally posted by NoTiCe_O
                  Well its realistic to me. .
                  Yo sir obviously do NOT watch basketball if you think Dirk is going to shoot a layup that way
                  SLIDERS SUCK

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                  • randombrother
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 1276

                    #519
                    Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                    Originally posted by Art1bk
                    So according to your statement it's perfectly cool for Shaq to attempt windmill dunks during the game while in traffic, when he will never try it or even do it during a game? I don't understand why people can't admit when something is flawed in a game. It seems like justifications must be given to flaws. A honda civic tops out at around 135-145 MPH, and a Ferrari tops out at 200-205MPH. They are both cars, but one is able to do things the other one can't. Games should be programed in this same light. If a game claims to be sim it should mimic what happens in real life. Have you ever seen Shaq doing fadeaways in real life? NO.. So in the same light I don't want to see it in a game either.
                    This is SO wrong for an analogy. What you are talking about is CAPABILITIES I'm talking about the ability to ATTEMPT. Don't see why you can't grasp this simple concept. But I'll even use this FLAWED analogy and say this, the Civic can ATTEMPT to get to 200 mph but it'll never get there because it isn't able to do so but there's nothing stopping it from ATTEMPTING to get there.
                    Originally posted by ajknows
                    You guy's are missing the point. Can Shaq do that dunk in real life...no

                    Can Shaq attempt to do that dunk in real life ...yes

                    Would it look pretty in real life or in a game...no, but that would be your choice, a stupid one but still yours. You would only see it if you or some cheesehead online tried to do it, would you be successful at it.... probably not
                    THANK YOU. Somebody gets it. I can attempt to make the N.Y. Giants football team, will I make it? I can guarantee 100 percent that I'd be cut in 5 minutes if they even let me on the field but there is nothing stopping me from getting up from this computer , driving over there and trying to make the team.

                    Originally posted by Art1bk
                    So even though you will NEVER see something like that happen in REAL life. It's ok for a so called SIM to do it for the sake of control? So is it simulating what would happen in the real sport with a specific player or a person's imagination?
                    Then what you want is a RPG bball game where people's choices are disabled.

                    I mean according to some of you why have any control over the players at all. According to your definition of a sim we should just have a RPG bball game. Make the game like Dragon's Lair from way back. Sit back and watch it all go down according to the sim and every now and then you get to choose "left" or "right".

                    Ridiculous. Right now if I go attempt to dunk in real life I'll bust my hump out there. But there isn't a damn thing stopping me from attempting it but my own knowledge and common sense but if someone wants to digitally recreate me and put me in a game and some dummy wants to try to dunk with me go ahead and let them try. Just don't come here pm I lost him games because I couldn't dunk.

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                    • NoTiCe_O
                      Pro
                      • May 2009
                      • 971

                      #520
                      Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                      Originally posted by erickonasis
                      Yo sir obviously do NOT watch basketball if you think Dirk is going to shoot a layup that way
                      But my point is, that's not the games fault, If they would of did the input for a left handed or right handed layup they wouldn't have gotten that animation. That's just from the user not knowing how to play.

                      I watch alot of basketball, and yea Dirk wouldn't take that shot because he's knowledgeable enough about the game to know better, the user was not
                      Twitter - @OtistheOriginal

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                      • HoosierDaddy
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 863

                        #521
                        Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                        I agree, but the game takes a hit when things like this don't play out realistically for someone who picks up the controller and has no idea how to play. Wouldn't you think it'd be nicer to have the correct type of shot depending on the situation regardless? If you want more variety, use the sticks, but at least have the proper shot of a basic animation.

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                        • XuanWu
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 117

                          #522
                          To quote the infamous Bill Walton, "Terrible, just terrible."
                          Why is Matt Millen on TV? Like... Analyzing talent.

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                          • randombrother
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 1276

                            #523
                            Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                            Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
                            I agree, but the game takes a hit when things like this don't play out realistically for someone who picks up the controller and has no idea how to play. Wouldn't you think it'd be nicer to have the correct type of shot depending on the situation regardless? If you want more variety, use the sticks, but at least have the proper shot of a basic animation.
                            I hear what you're saying but I just don't want to play NBA 11 "HELP ME CPU" Edition. I want to be accountable for my decision on the court as well as the next man be accountable for his.

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                            • Jano
                              You Dead Wrong
                              • May 2004
                              • 3162

                              #524
                              Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                              Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
                              I agree, but the game takes a hit when things like this don't play out realistically for someone who picks up the controller and has no idea how to play. Wouldn't you think it'd be nicer to have the correct type of shot depending on the situation regardless? If you want more variety, use the sticks, but at least have the proper shot of a basic animation.
                              Yea I agree with you on this. This is not something that will bother people that are playing but for those that may be watching it creates a wtf!! moment.

                              And for some people it only takes a few of those for them to just give up on the game. Case in point my cousin got to play the Elite along with me and was already giving up on the game after seeing some unrealistic stuff.

                              And he also didn't like the decision for all stick control either so it would be in EA's best interest to definitely clean that up. If only to keep the people interested in the game for a little longer. It'll save them a lot especially when it comes to the casual fan.

                              If this wasn't about sales it would be fine but these companies are trying to make money too, so they have to make sure they appeal to all types of fans.

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                              • erickonasis
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 3018

                                #525
                                Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                                Originally posted by Jano
                                Yea I agree with you on this. This is not something that will bother people that are playing but for those that may be watching it creates a wtf!! moment.

                                And for some people it only takes a few of those for them to just give up on the game. Case in point my cousin got to play the Elite along with me and was already giving up on the game after seeing some unrealistic stuff.

                                And he also didn't like the decision for all stick control either so it would be in EA's best interest to definitely clean that up. If only to keep the people interested in the game for a little longer. It'll save them a lot especially when it comes to the casual fan.

                                If this wasn't about sales it would be fine but these companies are trying to make money too, so they have to make sure they appeal to all types of fans.
                                Jano your posts are getting better and better everyday
                                SLIDERS SUCK

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