NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

[havok023]

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for those saying the graphics are bad turn the video up to 720p and youll see the difference

[thmst30]

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The part that I'm blown away by is that the animations seem to have taken a MASSIVE leap backwards. Live has never had solid animations, but somehow they just got worse. It seemed everything was in warp speed. Plus the ball/rim/net interactions are still awkward as hell. I'm looking forward to the demo to see how everything feels when actually playing, but it sure isn't pretty to watch.

[pdawg17]

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Man, i'm sooo sorry but saying "something different" is kinda weird because they changed NBA Live to NBA Elite? that's the only logical thing i can think of. Everything about Elite compare to 2K11 is absolutely old and there is nothing new and "different" about it at all... c'mon please open your eyes... please... just play NBA 2K10 for crying out loud and look at the new, cool, amazing and different stuff that NBA 2K11 has... please be real man... i was a EA fanboy before but 2K changed it... true...

You are overlooking one big difference and that is the controls...doesn't that count for something when it comes to video games? Btw I played the other game for the last 5-6 years until last year I picked up both games so stop with the fanboy stuff...it's called having an opinion on what is important for my enjoyment of a game...

[havok023]

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what i want to know is what made nba live 10 so "fun" considering it was of lower quality than 2k10. is it the learning curve to 2k's game?

there was 60% less cheesers online you actually miss shots in live 1o there is defense in live more realistic fg % numbers not 70% in the other game way less points in the paint and many other things

[coolcras7]

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for those saying the graphics are bad turn the video up to 720p and youll see the difference

lol, because people must be dumb and never used youtube before, come on everyone watched the game on 720 it does not help.

[magicman32]

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The passing is still way off too. The passing logic and animations are just horrible. By viewing all these vids, it is clear the defense will be at a major disadvantage user vs user.

[Epiffani]

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I'll start off by saying that this is a much better showing of this game than the initial up and down 5 on 5 action that we were first exposed to. The play calling is still there, and it still looks good; unfortunately, there's not much else that I can boast about because the action that I seen in this video didn't look close to what I've grown accustom to seeing from the NBA each time I watch a game.

Everything from the dull textures of the players, to the copy and paste unenthusiastic commentary, to the way the players were interacting and performing moves.... That just wasn't the NBA basketball that I know or have known over the years (not close IMO). The lack of individuality, and player differentiation really stood out to me in this video as everyone literally looked the same to me. I seriously can't even recall seeing Amare Stoudemire out there because he along with everybody else, didn't stand out in this video (looked like generics with different numbers on their jerseys), and it looked like the users were just going through the motions of trying to play a realistic brand of basketball.

The on-ball defense also didn't look too good as the defenders stayed in their defensive stance and didn't react much to the offensive player's input on the triggers. They just went sliding along unaffected. Speaking of sliding, this could become really problematic to the court spacing with everyone being able to slide and turn on a dime without fear of being out of position knowing that the footplanting isn't up to par...

There's more problems that I have after seeing this video, but I'll just leave it alone because I've done more than enough critiquing. I will say this, there's no way I would have "sacrificed" all of the things that needed to be worked on and built upon, things that people have been asking for for years now from this series, just for the sake of "complete control", and "real time physics" (this aspect of the game I've yet to see shine through in any capacity.) Oh well, it was their decision, and they prioritized the way they did based on what they thought would best suit this game. I'll still play the demo to get the "feel" that they continuously talk about, but the action, and what I'm seeing on the court is speaking very loudly to me at this point & time.

[ehh]

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Nice to see some sim gameplay. Definitely a lot better than the other vids.

First thing that stands out to me is that outside of the ball handling the rest of the game is the polar opposite of smooth. Things just look really clunky. Animations and play in the paint is where things seem to really get ugly, the rebounding sequence on the Knicks' last offensive position was seriously something out of Live 95. A few guys jumping in unison with the same leaping animation. Jumpers seem weird, either too flat or the ball travels too fast to the rim. Probably a combination of the both.

I wish the Bucks user would have continued on his fastbreak chance (around the 1:10 mark I think) instead of pausing on the left wing and bringing the ball out. The transition game was non-existent in Live 10, woulda been nice to see what coulda happened on that possession.

The strengths of the game look like they'll remain the same from Live 10. Playcalling and running, spacing/rotations (Gallo's one dribble pullup with that much created space just doesn't happen in the other game) and half court play in general. I also liked that the on-ball defender (in non-user controlled moments) pressured the ball on the perimeter. In L10 the CPU would sag off too far no matter who the player was.

After Live '10 I figured Elite would be a day-one purchase for me but I don't think that's the case anymore, though the demo could change it. I'll probably pick it up used in Jan-Feb for a change of pace from the other basketball game. It looks like a positive start in some aspects (no more sucked in collisions in the paint is huge) but animations are going to need major, major work going forward. Also disappointing that some guys look off visually and that Gallo, Chandler, etc didn't get a signature jumper after it was way off in L10.


Thanks for posting the vid EA.

what i want to know is what made nba live 10 so "fun" considering it was of lower quality than 2k10. is it the learning curve to 2k's game?

PLEASE tell me you're still not on that kick. For real man, why do you even come to the Elite forum?

[kingpnp]

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Interesting........i think EA predicted that the game so far would be looked at in a negative light and decided to pack Elite with Nba jam for more incentive....I think someone here said it best when they said that EA is in "wait until next year" mode...they build something from scratch then they say in not so many words that it is in the first year of implementation and the next year it should be better...that's where things fall off the rails somewhere between the first year and the second something changes and they start all over again with a whole new "vision" IMO

what happens is sales happen. and You guys complain about Looks and graphics, shoes, little things that may be cherry stuff/whip cream stuff. but not things that will make the game play like a hoop Sim. they start on trying to make a hoop sim. and the fans respond just like in this thread. "looks horrible, commentators, it looks like old live, blah blah blah" not that they're wrong. they are right to an extent and can voice their opinions. the problem is no one realizes if you keep saying graphics, graphics, graphics. thats what they will end up changing the direction to graphics and animations that you cant break out of because it wont look smooth. its not about basketball its about the LOOK and nothing else is what they hear. so they will change the game to be what you want it to be. there are only a few of us who REALLy want a sim game. we are in the minority. if you dont believe it, listen to this thread. what is the biggest complaint? the look/graphical appeal. even after they told us all that graphics would suffer. so this is a get your hands on it game. even still they talk about graphics/look.

here's the deal, put up with wack graphics this year if you find out in the demo that the total control thing is great, just look wack.

next year they will combine the two. you say they change every year? not true. they are now adding on to things. they had the downloads from synergy sports that changed the basketball gaming for ever. now they are going with real time physics. this will do the same. now they need to present a better LOOKING game. they will have all year for that before nba elite 12. this is not the usual"next year" talk. they did the same thing with NHL. they revamped it. and it took a few years to be the best sports game out there so people swear.

[pdawg17]

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what i want to know is what made nba live 10 so "fun" considering it was of lower quality than 2k10. is it the learning curve to 2k's game?

"Lower quality" is an opinion...metacritic averages a score of 82-83 for the other game and 80-81 for Live 10...not much different when you include a lot of opinions...

[pies]

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I'm starting to see what they are trying to do with the new controls, I can imagine this game being way more fun to "play" as opposed to how it "looks" but I'm all about gameplay, so I'm excited about the demo....I just hate that camera angle...I need my broadcast angle that makes it seem way more realistic IMO.

[corleone89bkk]

for those saying the graphics are bad turn the video up to 720p and youll see the difference

I've played the 720p version but it still lame nothing spectacular... don't try to keep your hopes alive to a game that is very far and not even trying to keep up with the competition. We are talking EA here one of the biggest game company there is and this is all they can do?! Again sorry guys just want you all to know that we just have to accept what's good and what is not. Peace!!!! hehehe... my opinion only...

[Conda]

Can't see the vid since I'm on the phone...how does the garden sound like? Is it like last year?

It works on iPhone. That's what I'm on right now.

[bawlinb]

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i agree with some of the other statements here ..this game really hasnt changed much other than the name itself...especially the same suspect herky jerky player movement...your only kidding yourself if u think this is a vast improvement over last year. and im not trying to bash this title but cmon ea this isnt gonna cut it

[Mike Smoove]

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what happens is sales happen. and You guys complain about Looks and graphics, shoes, little things that may be cherry stuff/whip cream stuff. but not things that will make the game play like a hoop Sim. they start on trying to make a hoop sim. and the fans respond just like in this thread. "looks horrible, commentators, it looks like old live, blah blah blah" not that they're wrong. they are right to an extent and can voice their opinions. the problem is no one realizes if you keep saying graphics, graphics, graphics. thats what they will end up changing the direction to graphics and animations that you cant break out of because it wont look smooth. its not about basketball its about the LOOK and nothing else is what they hear. so they will change the game to be what you want it to be. there are only a few of us who REALLy want a sim game. we are in the minority. if you dont believe it, listen to this thread. what is the biggest complaint? the look/graphical appeal. even after they told us all that graphics would suffer. so this is a get your hands on it game. even still they talk about graphics/look.

here's the deal, put up with wack graphics this year if you find out in the demo that the total control thing is great, just look wack.

next year they will combine the two. you say they change every year? not true. they are now adding on to things. they had the downloads from synergy sports that changed the basketball gaming for ever. now they are going with real time physics. this will do the same. now they need to present a better LOOKING game. they will have all year for that before nba elite 12. this is not the usual"next year" talk. they did the same thing with NHL. they revamped it. and it took a few years to be the best sports game out there so people swear.

Graphics isn't my problem in this vid although it is bad, its the on court gameplay. It was bad.