NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

[PRAY IV M3RCY]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

Just like i figured people will wait all day for it talk the most crap like they were waiting expecting real life 5 v5 footage.

Its not as bad as some make it seem. I liked it. Some people are too nit picky. THEY DONT BEND THEIR KNEES WHEN THEY JUMP. WTF. Who even notices that in any video game. Its like you are looking for things to talk s**t about. I cant believe people are even comparing the graphics of elite to old games like live 09. Go back and play that then look at the video then comment again.

Like havok said you are watching a video so you can look at everything and point out things. Yea there is no pausing and rewinding but you are no controlling anyone so you are not focusing on playing and can look at everything that is going on. If you are playing it you are mostly focused on the person with the ball so half the things yall are talking bout you wont see.

The fact that the game is smooth, fluid and you can do what ever you want with the ball is good enough for me. yea the player models and other lil things might be the same from live but elite is way better and looks different simply because the fact that everyone moves on their own free will so to speak. Nobody is getting stuck in animations and that was the only thing i didnt like about the live series. Once again the move so fluidly and smooth with out getting sucked into each other. Players move more robotic on 2k then elite. Movement on 2k is not as smooth and fluid at all. The only thing i give 2k over elite is better detailed graphics and game modes but i have to see how legendary mode turns out. But those things does not make a game better then another. To me gameplay is the biggest factor.

One thing the elite did not change and is disappointing to me is the crowd and arena atmosphere. When the knicks would score you would hear clapping and cheers but nobody in the stands where clapping. But thats one of those things you notice only when watching the game and not playing it. But having then stand and cheer like on 2k is noticeable. I wish elite would implicate that in the future because i know that probably priority #99 with everything else that elite will bring to the table. It can really get you into a game with the crowd going crazy when you are playing good and you are the home team. And maybe with teams like the 76ers have empty seats because in real life their arena is empty on a constant basis

not that i agree, because i dont AT ALL, but i respect somebody who will defend their game till the bitter end

[Basketball GURU]

this game looks good..dey finally made nba jam 5on5..wheres the flaming ball??

[NS HeLLaDOPe]

LMAO this game is goin to be straight "GARBAGE" i'll rather play the NBA Jams add-on then this bs, no wonder 2k dominates EA "Every" year...

[Court_vision]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

Don't you mean old paint .

LOL

Side note: The guys defending it should just get the game and enjoy it. No need to defend every post. Buy it, play it and enjoy it.

Other people who won't be buying it have a right to say why though. For me, LIVE 08 was a complete waste of my $$...as was Live 09...

LIVE 10 was on track and it was genuinely exciting to hear the producers plans for LIVE 11.

Instead...we get a new team, tonnes of basketball stuff completely wrong still...and "new controls" (when the controls were already good ).

I know EA moved away from the LIVE 10 team based on bad sales....terrible actually....so i guess a new "strategy" is understandable / calling it "Elite" when it's simply LIVE 11 etc etc.

But i've got a right to say at this point "thanks, but no thanks" and not fork out $60 again this season.

[Dawgthem]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

Anybody who has defended elite has not made any excusses for they things everyone is pointing out that they think is wrong or is sayng anything like show ea some compassion. We are paying 60 dollars of are money also so we want the best game. Most of us will get the game because we like it. Not because we want to show support to ea. Like you said its not 20 dollars. So pleas try and find someone on here that will pay 60 dollars for a game that they think is broke just to support ea who has made millions and millions off of live, fifa, nhl, and even the other genre of games like need for speed and even 007 back in the ps2 days

Lol http://www.vgchartz.com/game.php?id=35378 But live 10 didn't even sell a million copies Dumbo

[fatleg3]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

FIRST OFF I ENJOYED LIVE 10 BETTER THAN 2k10 and im a beast at both games IF THIS IS really users total control then that was some dam good stick skills I LIKE THE PACE OF THE GAME DEFFENATELY LOOKS BETTER THAN LIVE 10 I LIKE THE DRIBBLING SEEMED REALISTIC IM DEF BUYING ELITE 11 NO MORE NEED FOR CONVINSING IT IS OBVIOUS PEOPLE JUST LIKE 2k11 FOR THE SAKE OF THE NAME TRUST ME AFTER AMONTH PEOPLE ARE GONA BUY ELITE BECAUSE THEY ARE BORED OF THE SAME 2k11 GAMEPLAY (IN MY EYES IS LOOKING EXACTLY LIKE 2k10 ) NBA ELITE 11 IS TOTAL CONTROL RUNNING A PLAY FROM TIGHT DEFENSE AND HITTING 3PT FROM SCREEN WILL FEEL LIKE A TOTAL SENSE OF ACHIEVEMENT TRUST ME

yes if anyone wants to talk about a game looking like its older versions 2k11 and 10 looks and plays the same. I can just look at the videos from elite and see how much different it plays from 10. Its not about hitting a button and letting it go on time anymore. Its gonna take skill to hit a shot now. Its gonna take skill to drive past a defender not. My little cousin cant just hop on the stick anymore and beat me by shooting 3s with mo williams anymore

[bullitt_711]

yes if anyone wants to talk about a game looking like its older versions 2k11 and 10 looks and plays the same. I can just look at the videos from elite and see how much different it plays from 10. Its not about hitting a button and letting it go on time anymore. Its gonna take skill to hit a shot now. Its gonna take skill to drive past a defender not. My little cousin cant just hop on the stick anymore and beat me by shooting 3s with mo williams anymore

ha good post

[P-Dub]

Real-time physics

1:10 - Felton is lightly bumped by Jennings. User control is still maintained, unlike previous versions.
2:18 - Salmons bumped by Stoudemire as he goes up for a layup forces a bad (and ugly)layup attempt. Live 10 would have been a long 2-man animation during which you would have no control, but looked better.
2:21 - Maggette slightly bumped by Gallinari or Stoudemire during close shot.
2:30 - Walker collides with Salmons.
2:56 - Chandler deflects pass, ball is loose.
3:00 - Felton physical defense on Jennings.
3:02 - Pass is deflected by Felton or Stoudemire.
3:15-3:17 - Gallinari and Maggette collision during post up scenario. Players are not locked into this position like previous games. Collision during layup.
3:25 - Salmons collision with Walker.
3:44 - Walker collision with Salmons.
4:22-4:27 - Felton is able to move around while protecting the ball from the tight defense of Jennings.
4:30 - Maggette deflects pass.
4:44-4:47 - Gallinari's tight defense stops Maggette's drive attempt.

There is more going on than what I pointed out, of course. Every shot, every player running in to each other while cutting, the collisions during screens, etc.

The real time physics has allowed for much more dynamic style of play. Notice how it looks more like a free flowing game of basketball where you can do what you want and you have the controls to make the decisions you want to make on the court. While in previous versions it was really limited to playing the version of basketball that they wanted you to play.

For what you guys say about last year "looking" better, I do agree. But the moment you picked up the controller, it got so much worse. This year it should be the opposite. It should feel better when you are playing.

I agree with many people that have said the collision animations are bad. Especially the in-air collisions. It just seems like they are too exaggerated.

I think one of the things the developers need to look at is the actual jumping physics. It still looks like they have animations that simulate jumping instead of actual jumping physics. I believe that causes things like the adjusted layup defying gravity, and players that don't bend their knees to jump or seem to get pulled into the air.

The learning curve is actually quite big this year. None of the videos that have been released show you what a skilled player can do. It's all random people who don't know how to play. That's why the videos look bad, except for this one.

I'm glad they slowed the game down.

[jr2424]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

The only people on here who should "defend" their game should be the developers because their jobs depend on sales and the game's success. I never understood why we "defend" one game over another. It's like the PS3 vs. 360 debate. We really shouldn't care like that because it's not our product. I was a big Live fan but switched in 2007 because I just didn't like Live's gameplay anymore. But if 2k starts to slip, I would buy Elite if their game was better. Why be fanboys? Just be honest and impartial.

[coolcras7]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

yes if anyone wants to talk about a game looking like its older versions 2k11 and 10 looks and plays the same. I can just look at the videos from elite and see how much different it plays from 10. Its not about hitting a button and letting it go on time anymore. Its gonna take skill to hit a shot now. Its gonna take skill to drive past a defender not. My little cousin cant just hop on the stick anymore and beat me by shooting 3s with mo williams anymore

lol, I am done the fanboys can have this thread now, enjoy guys.

[2kfanatic]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

Real-time physics

1:10 - Felton is lightly bumped by Jennings. User control is still maintained, unlike previous versions.
2:18 - Salmons bumped by Stoudemire as he goes up for a layup forces a bad (and ugly)layup attempt. Live 10 would have been a long 2-man animation during which you would have no control, but looked better.
2:21 - Maggette slightly bumped by Gallinari or Stoudemire during close shot.
2:30 - Walker collides with Salmons.
2:56 - Chandler deflects pass, ball is loose.
3:00 - Felton physical defense on Jennings.
3:02 - Pass is deflected by Felton or Stoudemire.
3:15-3:17 - Gallinari and Maggette collision during post up scenario. Players are not locked into this position like previous games. Collision during layup.
3:25 - Salmons collision with Walker.
3:44 - Walker collision with Salmons.
4:22-4:27 - Felton is able to move around while protecting the ball from the tight defense of Jennings.
4:30 - Maggette deflects pass.
4:44-4:47 - Gallinari's tight defense stops Maggette's drive attempt.

There is more going on than what I pointed out, of course. Every shot, every player running in to each other while cutting, the collisions during screens, etc.

The real time physics has allowed for much more dynamic style of play. Notice how it looks more like a free flowing game of basketball where you can do what you want and you have the controls to make the decisions you want to make on the court. While in previous versions it was really limited to playing the version of basketball that they wanted you to play.

For what you guys say about last year "looking" better, I do agree. But the moment you picked up the controller, it got so much worse. This year it should be the opposite. It should feel better when you are playing.

I agree with many people that have said the collision animations are bad. Especially the in-air collisions. It just seems like they are too exaggerated.

I think one of the things the developers need to look at is the actual jumping physics. It still looks like they have animations that simulate jumping instead of actual jumping physics. I believe that causes things like the adjusted layup defying gravity, and players that don't bend their knees to jump or seem to get pulled into the air.

The learning curve is actually quite big this year. None of the videos that have been released show you what a skilled player can do. It's all random people who don't know how to play. That's why the videos look bad, except for this one.

I'm glad they slowed the game down.

The problem is that some animations that are nor collision related still looks bad (jumping, idle dribbling, passing, facing up....) and we cannot have the RTP as an excuse because these can be tweaked without having to worry about how it affects the physics of the game.

[23]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

Why do i need to do that when nba 2k has outsold Liive every year

Listen, either you post on the topic which is the video or be banned for trolling simple as that. No more warnings

[23]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

Whoever continues with the off topic convo will be banned immediately

[Dawgthem]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

Listen, either you post on the topic which is the video or be banned for trolling simple as that. No more warnings

Yessir............Back on topic i think one thing...as the one who posted about real time physics if this is put in the game for presentation then shouldn't the animations for the physics be smooth and look good sense teh layups and dunks within the collisions are predetermined anyway...why if RTP is such a megan feature within the game the animations and transition of animations within behind it don't back it up

[fatleg3]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

My bad 23. I was on topic but some of these poster got me off cause they think they are to smart for their on good. I was just trying to say EA sports as a whole company with every game they have made and add them up because that is how you become a multi-million dollar company, has made millions of dollars so nobody is going to buy their games just to support them.

Now back to the video.

I noticed no fouls was called but there was not alot of contact in the video either