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  • elprez98
    MVP
    • Dec 2003
    • 4237

    #316
    Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

    Originally posted by brs2305
    First of...I really don't like the money talk (shouldn't be worth 60$). Yeah I know it's an issue for a lot of people and many of you are going to flame me, which is ok. I can live with that.

    But for me it just sounds like all the Devs working on this product havn't put enough work into this product so they are not worth the 60 bucks. I just think, if you don't like it than don't buy it. But saying that it should just be like 40 bucks (not even mentioned that it includes a great looking second game) is like saying this game is as worse as "Garden Simulator 2010". It will not be as worse and I might bet that some might even change their mind after the demo.
    So either buy it for at full price or don't buy it at all? That doesn't make sense.
    Originally posted by My Wife
    "The Celtics only won because they have a magical elf playing for their team...."

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    • thesniper321
      Rookie
      • Sep 2008
      • 274

      #317
      Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

      Originally posted by michaeljordanjr
      @fatleg3, exactly my point... which is why when people play the demo they will say "ahah!" "Eureka!" No more sucked in animations, control over everything and physics to realistically calculate outcomes of collisions and penetrating finishes.

      Focus on positives and negatives of what Elite 11 CAN DO and not what it cant do - i.e. 1000 animations, photo-real skin textures and lighting etc.. etc...

      Appreciate that most of Live 10 frustrations have been removed...and say thanks.

      Thanks

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      • oOausarOo
        Banned
        • Oct 2008
        • 822

        #318
        Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

        I hear people say the users were playing deliberately? Am I missing something, isn't that how most of you 'sim' guys play? I agree the Knicks user especially should have been more uptempo, but they were more focused on showing the game played in a certain manner.

        What they did makes perfect sense to me. They wanted to show how the game plays in that style in contrast to the frantic/casual style we saw in the leaked vids.

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        • cree ross
          Rookie
          • Aug 2010
          • 20

          #319
          its a better video(quality,slower gameplay) but i'm still seeing wonky movements.I think they shouldve held off from showing ANY video until everything was right

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          • brs2305
            Rookie
            • Mar 2008
            • 241

            #320
            Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

            Well it kinda does. People decide on their own how much worth a product is to them. I've heard plenty of times that games "would" buy a great game three times or more. Does it make sense, well no, but they would sacrafice 180$ for that single game. In Elites case many people wouldn't sacrafice 60$ which is ok, but that does mean you buy it or not. Because EA decided the work that went into the product is worth that money and concidering how much human work was put into this game it probably is.
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            • thesniper321
              Rookie
              • Sep 2008
              • 274

              #321
              Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

              Originally posted by eye guy
              I don't know why they moved away from this





              I thought they were adding to Live 10!?

              Imo, the only thing that looks better is the crowd... WTF? I ain't selling Live 10 anytime soon.
              I don't understand what you're trying to say ...
              Everything you show is still there it will just take MORE skills than pressing a button to perform those moves, is there a problem??

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              • elprez98
                MVP
                • Dec 2003
                • 4237

                #322
                Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

                Originally posted by brs2305
                Well it kinda does. People decide on their own how much worth a product is to them. I've heard plenty of times that games "would" buy a great game three times or more. Does it make sense, well no, but they would sacrafice 180$ for that single game. In Elites case many people wouldn't sacrafice 60$ which is ok, but that does mean you buy it or not. Because EA decided the work that went into the product is worth that money and concidering how much human work was put into this game it probably is.
                I don't understand your point. If I can wait 2 months and the game is $30-40, I'll still buy it, just not at a $60 price point.
                Originally posted by My Wife
                "The Celtics only won because they have a magical elf playing for their team...."

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                • brs2305
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 241

                  #323
                  Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

                  Originally posted by oOausarOo
                  I hear people say the users were playing deliberately? Am I missing something, isn't that how most of you 'sim' guys play? I agree the Knicks user especially should have been more uptempo, but they were more focused on showing the game played in a certain manner.

                  What they did makes perfect sense to me. They wanted to show how the game plays in that style in contrast to the frantic/casual style we saw in the leaked vids.
                  I get your point but I think they play so deliberately that they actually forgot to exploit the mistakes which not sim at all. Playing Sim (in my opinion) doesn't mean forcing your team to play halfcourt all the time. If I have plays that work against an opponent I will exploit them until he gets it. And, just to be clear. Exploiting in this case (for me, of course) is Sim, as long as the opponent has the tools to do something against it, but doesn't use them due to lack of ability. So if the CPU just doesn't know how to defend some special move of certain play in general it wouldn't be Sim to abuse that, b/c the CPU just doesn't have the tools to do so, so I wouldn't.
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                  • infamyice
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2654

                    #324
                    2k Got this easy this year. I'm not really feeling this episode this year. I don't see nothing "elite" about it. I see everything that is mentioned, but it's just not my cup of tea

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                    • brs2305
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 241

                      #325
                      Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

                      Originally posted by elprez98
                      I don't understand your point. If I can wait 2 months and the game is $30-40, I'll still buy it, just not at a $60 price point.
                      Exactly. You are totally right, b/c you are waiting 2 months you can buy it at 30 or 40$. BUT you sacrificed 2 months of playing, which means this game is not worth it for you to pay 20 or 30$ more to play it 2 months ahead of others, and not to mention the game is used, which is another point.
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                      • sportyguyfl31
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 4745

                        #326
                        The court spacing is excellent as usual. That's always been EA's strength.

                        Post game looks smoother then last year.

                        Like what I am seeing with the on ball defense..and the ball handler acknowledging your position

                        Hop step is kind of wonky looking

                        Atmosphere seems bland, and the game has no life to it whasoever.


                        On the court, though, there is some very good sim elements that I see...but the game is lacking that "omph".

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                        • nccomicfan
                          MVP
                          • May 2006
                          • 1530

                          #327
                          Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

                          Flat Commentary and token ESPN integration,Players still moving like hunchbacks 5 years into this generation,Loose Balls that still bounce like the ball is short a couple pounds of air,ZERO differentiation between players or teams

                          I will echo the sentiments of everyone else, this is not a 60 dollar release.An updated Live 10 was a day one purchase,this however, will not even be considered for purchase until this title has exhausted it's patch cycle for the year.

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                          • HoosierDaddy
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 863

                            #328
                            Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

                            Here are my thoughts...

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                            • sportyguyfl31
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 4745

                              #329
                              Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

                              Watched a few more times, and honestly...I like it.

                              I think it boils down to a couple of things.

                              1) IF you didnt like Live 10, you arent going to see anything that will make you conisder giving '11 a shot.

                              2) If you liked Live 10, I think this game is going to play well, and be a lot of fun, once you get a hang of the control scheme. and learn how and when to do the things we are used to doing.

                              The commentary is a little blah...I'll concede that.

                              Even Mark Jackson's "Hands down, man down!" sounded stale.

                              On the court though, I like what I see from the spacing, playcalling layout, Amare's up and under, collision detection, etc.

                              Definitely getting the game.

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                              • dirtypuppet
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 199

                                #330
                                Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

                                Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
                                Here are my thoughts...

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                                Nicely done and I agree with everything you stated.

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