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  • RayDog253
    Pro
    • Jul 2009
    • 984

    #166
    Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

    Originally posted by rEAnimator
    OK, here's another thought...

    In my opinion the critique about the offensive board may not be quite fair.

    Hard to tell, but I think the defensive player simply jumped too early and the offensive player timed his jump better which is why he got the board.

    I agree that the contact animation and physics looks a little unnatural, but it is dynamic and the outcome played out in real time and wasn't predetermined when the defensive player jumped.
    I think that's the problem, because we don't see the game the same way you see it. You know whats going on because you developed the game, so all the under the hood type stuff is noticable to you.

    But to us, we look at it like we're watching a game of Basketball on T.V.. So if something looks off to us, were not going to think, 'Oh thats all right cause it's not two player animation and it's all dynamically driven by RTP'.

    Don't mean to sound rude or anything, just trying to help you understand why I think most people aint feeling these videos.
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    • Moe24-
      Banned
      • May 2010
      • 506

      #167
      Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

      Originally posted by rEAnimator
      OK, here's another thought...

      In my opinion the critique about the offensive board may not be quite fair.

      Hard to tell, but I think the defensive player simply jumped too early and the offensive player timed his jump better which is why he got the board.

      I agree that the contact animation and physics looks a little unnatural, but it is dynamic and the outcome played out in real time and wasn't predetermined when the defensive player jumped.
      Did you just say something is wrong with the game

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      • magicman32
        Pro
        • Aug 2009
        • 805

        #168
        Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

        Originally posted by jfsolo
        Great Post. They've put all their eggs into one philosophical basket, deciding that total control is exponentially more important then anything else. So, as you say, we'll now see how many gamers subscribe to that philosophy.

        I feel like the average online player will love this game. Since everything will be about what they do on the sticks. Winning and losing completely in their hands, just the way they want it.
        I think this depends on if the defense seems fair and user friendly. IMO, the offense seems to have the advantage user vs user. And once people learn the shot releases it be a lot of made baskets, cuz a perfect release equals a make 100% of the time. But we'll have to wait and see.

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        • illmatic174
          Rookie
          • Aug 2010
          • 104

          #169
          Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

          Wow, I honestly kept thinking it was a ps2 or psp game until i seen controller icon buttons showing it was 360 game, is this like a really early build there is no way they're gonna try to sell this bs

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          • pdawg17
            Pro
            • Mar 2004
            • 937

            #170
            Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

            Originally posted by magicman32
            I think this depends on if the defense seems fair and user friendly. IMO, the offense seems to have the advantage user vs user. And once people learn the shot releases it be a lot of made baskets, cuz a perfect release equals a make 100% of the time. But we'll have to wait and see.
            For what I understand a perfect release does NOT equal a make 100% of the time...do you really think that if you make Shaq do a perfect release from half court it will go in 100% of the time?

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            • rEAnimator
              NBA Elite Developer
              • Jun 2010
              • 666

              #171
              Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

              Originally posted by RayDog253
              I think that's the problem, because we don't see the game the same way you see it. You know whats going on because you developed the game, so all the under the hood type stuff is noticable to you.

              But to us, we look at it like we're watching a game of Basketball on T.V.. So if something looks off to us, were not going to think, 'Oh thats all right cause it's not two player animation and it's all dynamically driven by RTP'.

              Don't mean to sound rude or anything, just trying to help you understand why I think most people aint feeling these videos.
              That makes a lot of sense to me.

              I'd probably be saying the same kinds of things if I was on the other side as well.

              I don't think any of the criticisms are way off base by any means. And the focus on visuals makes sense because visuals are all you get from a video.

              You guys cannot form an opinion on how it plays until you've played it. So the only feedback you can give is how it looks.

              The game is a lot of fun. More fun than I've ever had with a basketball game.

              Hopefully you guys feel the same when you play the demo.

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              • pdawg17
                Pro
                • Mar 2004
                • 937

                #172
                Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

                Originally posted by illmatic174
                Wow, I honestly kept thinking it was a ps2 or psp game until i seen controller icon buttons showing it was 360 game, is this like a really early build there is no way they're gonna try to sell this bs
                How many of these worthless, nothing-but-bashing posts do we need to see in here? Are you guys actually trying to help make the game better or just enjoy demeaning other human beings and the hard work they've put into this?

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                • rEAnimator
                  NBA Elite Developer
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 666

                  #173
                  Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

                  Originally posted by Moe24-
                  Did you just say something is wrong with the game
                  Is that a surprise?

                  There's lots right with the game, but I'm not going to pretend it's perfect.

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                  • illmatic174
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 104

                    #174
                    Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

                    Originally posted by pdawg17
                    How many of these worthless, nothing-but-bashing posts do we need to see in here? Are you guys actually trying to help make the game better or just enjoy demeaning other human beings and the hard work they've put into this?
                    this was the first time i came into the nba elite section and actually saw a gameplay vid of the game

                    so I commented on it, didnt look through the dozens of post in this thread before i decided to comment

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                    • Joseph37
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 16

                      #175
                      Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

                      Originally posted by rEAnimator
                      Is that a surprise?

                      There's lots right with the game, but I'm not going to pretend it's perfect.
                      Haha . its funny how some people think you won't say anything is wrong with the game. And its also funny how some people, believe this game will be perfect .
                      SMH at those people

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                      • Moe24-
                        Banned
                        • May 2010
                        • 506

                        #176
                        Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

                        Originally posted by rEAnimator
                        Is that a surprise?

                        There's lots right with the game, but I'm not going to pretend it's perfect.
                        Isn't that what you're supposed to do if your a developer?? Or did i miss something?

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                        • pdawg17
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 937

                          #177
                          Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

                          Originally posted by illmatic174
                          this was the first time i came into the nba elite section and actually saw a gameplay vid of the game

                          so I commented on it, didnt look through the dozens of post in this thread before i decided to comment
                          That's fine but I just can't believe how much unhelpful bashing goes on here...maybe it's because I have a few friends who are game developers so I know the long hours they put in but I think more people need to think about the people behind the video before you berate them...

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                          • Moe24-
                            Banned
                            • May 2010
                            • 506

                            #178
                            Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

                            Originally posted by Joseph37
                            Haha . its funny how some people think you won't say anything is wrong with the game. And its also funny how some people, believe this game will be perfect .
                            SMH at those people
                            I'm not saying that the game is going to be perfect...im just saying that he said the physics looked a "little" unnatural.... it was the first time i've actually seen a developer say that about there game...that is all....

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                            • magicman32
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 805

                              #179
                              Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

                              Originally posted by pdawg17
                              For what I understand a perfect release does NOT equal a make 100% of the time...do you really think that if you make Shaq do a perfect release from half court it will go in 100% of the time?
                              Yes!!! As long as it's aligned perfect and timed right. Or am I missing something?

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                              • pdawg17
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 937

                                #180
                                Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Oklahoma City Thunder @ Detroit Pistons

                                Originally posted by Moe24-
                                I'm not saying that the game is going to be perfect...im just saying that he said the physics looked a "little" unnatural.... it was the first time i've actually seen a developer say that about there game...that is all....
                                That is one thing I have always liked about the Live/Elite forum...the devs have always been great at listening to what we think needs improvement and actually tries to implement the changes based on our feedback...I guess that's why I can't stand all of the useless comments on here lately...

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