NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: New Orleans Hornets @ Los Angeles Clippers

[ghiz143]

very much improved

[convince]

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My quick analysis, post up moves looks awesome. I hate the lack of variety between players. Everyone seems to be on the Atkins Diet. IMO offense looks way too easy and that's with the devs intentionally trying slow the pace down most of the time. Now for my biggest issue, players move around with no apparent indication of weight. Everyone seems like the can skate and turn on a dime. To fixed this issue a little loss of user control will need to be sacrifice. A crossover by Eddie House can not be as effective or as fast as a crossover done by Derrick Rose. And to close out I don't see how you are going to prevent cheesers from abusing the game. With so much control, this is going to be like a Cheeser's Utopia. I'm not saying that having control is a bad thing but it does open up a ton of new issues. I guess i wont be playing this online.

[havok023]

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For sure the best one of the three so far...

1. Pick and Roll is definitely too easy to score, I think this is USER VS USER right? Maybe thats the reason, hopefully when I play against the CPU, the pick and roll won't be so easy to use, I see the big man rolling to the basket can get an easy layup or dunk almost everytime...??? Gotta work on that!

2. The dunks, WAY too many dunks, this is only a 5 mins gameplay but there are like 8 dunks or smt liek that already, way too much, turn it down, make the big man do more tapping backboard kind of layup will be perfect man...

3. The players all look the same, hey man, not all the black guys are equally black, Paul looks same as Okafor, West, I can't even tell the difference man other than by comparing their height, live 10 player models look much much better...

4. AND LAST QUESTION, is it true that if you master the shot you get 100%??? This is really scary to hear...and how come ALL PLAYERS SHOOT THE SAME WAY, WHERE ARE THE SIGNATURE SHOTS?????

Thats it for now...

its easy to score because they are playing man to man defense if they switch to a zone you will see more deflections and stuff like that plus clippers or hornets dont have good defense

[Forever_Young83]

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Whoa it's NBA Elite on ice... The video is still on the same level as the others to me. Just becasue the camera view changed doesn't mean the game does. Thats basically saying the game looks better from further away.

[J-Clutch1]

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its easy to score because they are playing man to man defense if they switch to a zone you will see more deflections and stuff like that plus clippers or hornets dont have good defense

You don't need to make excuses. If it's difficult to play defense, then it's difficult to play defense. The guy has a point, and it does show some bad signs for players who play online.

Either way, this game has a good base, in my opinion, and should improve as a part of its 3-year plan.

[bonannogiovanni]

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A perfect example of how broadcast views make sport games look better no matter what.

[Mike Smoove]

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Whoa it's NBA Elite on ice... The video is still on the same level as the others to me. Just becasue the camera view changed doesn't mean the game does. Thats basically saying the game looks better from further away.

Your right its still the same game. But I think what everyone is thinking or seeing for that matter is it looks like it plays better on broadcast. Now yes it haas a long way to go but this vid was a step in the right direction. Peace guys off to watch TCU vs Oregon ST.

[convince]

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Another issue I have, developers have to find a better way implement ratings in regards to user control, b/c whatever it is is not working. Okafer is looking like Hakeem out there. It also looks like, at least for the most part, if the ball hits the rim it going to be a miss.

[jrose57]

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You don't need to make excuses. If it's difficult to play defense, then it's difficult to play defense. The guy has a point, and it does show some bad signs for players who play online.

Either way, this game has a good base, in my opinion, and should improve as a part of its 3-year plan.

I never see the CPU plays a zone defence against me, it is 99% man to man, also I don't see the difference between great defence team like Boston vs. Clippers when I played LIVE for the past decade, those excuses are terrible, I am sorry, but all I gotta say is ELITE needs to work on the defence against the pick and roll, the help d, the switch, the going behind the screen, all those gotta be looked at again, but I see lots and lots of great stuff in this video...ALSO hate the amount of dunks man!

[tgoat22]

I'll have to admit that the game looks better in broadcast camera view instead of the "2K" camera, and seems to resemble to the bare minimum to Live 10. That still doesn't detract from the fact that the game looks very choppy, and animations seem to randomly occur.

[x_irish6]

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Better video. One thing I get from it is that just like IRL, having quick, penetrating guards is going to be a key to success. Obviously looks some tweaking is required, but might be alright. Will reserve judgement until I play demo.

[aholbert32]

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its easy to score because they are playing man to man defense if they switch to a zone you will see more deflections and stuff like that plus clippers or hornets dont have good defense

That is a ridiculous excuse. It was too easy to score because there are suspect defensive rotations and the users arent very good at defense.

[pdawg17]

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Videos don't tell me a lot about defense...there are a ton of dunks in the videos I've seen of the other game too...once I have the demos and on defense I start saying WTF all the time, then I'll know something about the defense of each game...

[airflight96]

listen if you look closely every time the player is shooting the person on defense is user controled and is not trying 2 stop the offensive player i think they are doing it on purpose

[Jano]

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But from what I understand once you master the release of your shot it will go in 100% of the time. In all the videos we've seen from the devs there has been very few misses. And the pick and roll seems like it is an easy play to get points. Once the game and control is figured out by users especially online, I'm predicting it will be very easy to score.

The shot release thing should be a little harder on the higher difficulties though. The shooting controls are up on the stick for accuracy, then hold it for proper power. You also control whether it veers left or if it goes long or short too.

To get an idea of what the accuracy window looks like check out the videos on shooting on gametrailers.com. Its like the top half of a clock 12 o clock is perfect accuracy where as 11 and 1 are still pretty close.

I have 3 theories on how they might go about making shot timing more difficult:

1. I can see the devs shortening the accuracy window for everybody so the way you hold it needs to be more exact. Whereas the lower difficulties the amount of accuracy you need won't be as high. So you don't need to be as exact on the way you hold the stick.

Good shooters should still be fairly easy to shoot with (because they will still have bigger windows of opportunity) but the poor ones will probably be pretty difficult. Because you are going to have to hold the stick almost exactly straight up. And any little deviation off that straight line will result in a missed shot.

2. The devs just increase the speed of how fast it takes the player to build up enough power for each shot on superstar. Which will make timing even harder because then it may just be more of a flick of the stick. And that will make shooting much more difficult because you won't have as much time to make sure the stick is straight because you'll be too busy worrying about getting the right amount of power.

3. Do both, decrease the window of opportunity across the board and speed up the power meter. Probably the best decision especially with all those people out there that will look to only shoot with one player all the time. And increase the effect fatigue has on shots too.