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  • tmactic
    Banned
    • May 2009
    • 21

    #91
    You say lots of dunks??? I say that is what would happen in real life if these two teams played. I can name a few allstars that are out on the court in that vid. Did you see how bad the user defense was not holding down the paint? I did see what playing good defense could be like in the vid but only a few times. I repeat the Heat and the Magic will have lots of dunks in real life this year.

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    • Jano
      You Dead Wrong
      • May 2004
      • 3162

      #92
      Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

      Originally posted by Tha_Kid
      The verticals man...

      Lol I have no idea why year after year EA never gets the verticals right. Playmakers and Tomba talk about this stuff EVERY time the game is released.

      And the thing that gets me is they give us global sliders to edit them too so its not like that whole process is one by one thing. You could literally edit a whole teams vertical down.

      I mean if they can do it why can't the guys at EA do the same smh...

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      • havok023
        Banned
        • Jul 2010
        • 96

        #93
        Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

        Originally posted by tmactic
        You say lots of dunks??? I say that is what would happen in real life if these two teams played. I can name a few allstars that are out on the court in that vid. Did you see how bad the user defense was not holding down the paint? I did see what playing good defense could be like in the vid but only a few times. I repeat the Heat and the Magic will have lots of dunks in real life this year.
        yeah that's true in all the videos it looks like the defender is sagging of this game looks a lot better than live 10

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        • jr2424
          Rookie
          • Sep 2007
          • 430

          #94
          Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

          Originally posted by Tha_Kid
          The verticals man...

          Hilarious.
          Does a cheetah stretch before it chases its prey?

          Ken Griffey Jr.

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          • Tha_Kid
            All Star
            • Oct 2002
            • 6550

            #95
            Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

            Ignoring the eurostep in place (an issue I thought was supposed to be addressed), I did like how Dwight's hand tracked the ball for the challenge at 3:42.

            Jano, yeah I remember the threads for 09 & 10. This was even mentioned a couple months ago but it seems to have fallen on deaf ears.
            Last edited by Tha_Kid; 09-05-2010, 02:31 PM.

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            • sportyguyfl31
              MVP
              • Nov 2005
              • 4749

              #96
              Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

              Can something be done about these blatant new account trolls?

              Any, I LOVE the collision detection.

              I loved Carter's deflection of the ball on a I think the opening sequence for the heat..aroudn the 20 second mark.

              The hop step effectivenes needs to be patched. Right now.


              The videos are getting better and better, just as I hoped.

              I remember the 1st videos of ncaa that came out. BLAH!

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              • havok023
                Banned
                • Jul 2010
                • 96

                #97
                Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
                Can something be done about these blatant new account trolls?

                Any, I LOVE the collision detection.

                I loved Carter's deflection of the ball on a I think the opening sequence for the heat..aroudn the 20 second mark.

                The hop step effectivenes needs to be patched. Right now.


                The videos are getting better and better, just as I hoped.

                I remember the 1st videos of ncaa that came out. BLAH!
                yeah i see a lot of people trolling now
                i wonder if the day 1 patch will fix some of these issues
                did they change LBJ's jump shot i couldn't really tell

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                • Tha_Kid
                  All Star
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 6550

                  #98
                  Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                  So much of the ballhandler movement looks wrong because they are breaking the rules. Look at Carter from 3:50. He catches the ball moving left, establishing his right foot as the pivot, yet starts moving right off of his left foot. Of course this is followed immediately by more sliding that looks like a carry. This is the stuff bums in your Sunday run do, not NBA players. Even when they do, the difference is that they make it look smooth. Refs practically call the games by whistling on things that look unnatural.

                  This stuff has been in basketball games forever, but it hasn't looked as blatantly rough in a couple years.
                  Last edited by Tha_Kid; 09-05-2010, 02:39 PM.

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                  • Jano
                    You Dead Wrong
                    • May 2004
                    • 3162

                    #99
                    Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                    Well we got a fastbreak and dunk vid today, now I want to see some CPU vs CPU gameplay. See how the AI looks because last year's wasn't all that great especially after you played the game for a while.

                    Also want another vid on in-air collisions even though this one had some, I'm hoping there's a lot more to it because it doesn't look like its going to stop dunks at all. Actually it doesn't even have to be in-air just give me one that shows off the help D in the game.

                    And if there's some videos highlighting the post game that would be great too. I really do hope the higher difficulties are like Live 10 in terms of D because that game would really punish you when you tried to force your way inside every play.

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                    • Dawgthem
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 311

                      #100
                      Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                      Originally posted by havok023
                      if you took time to read my other post you would know that i dont think this game is flawless there is way too many dunks its just that 23 always points out the negatives and keeps saying everything is the same as last year when its not

                      Its hard to look at the positives when the negatives outway it,... all the dunking and stuff..i can't even look at the dribbling animation when i don't even know whose dribbling because d wade looks like lebron and both of them are on the atkins diet along with Howard...

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                      • jr2424
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 430

                        #101
                        Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                        That initial Wade dunk over Howard is a little concerning. It was two-handed and he pushed Howard back like he was a guard. I'm glad there wasn't a collision suction animation but a foul should have been called and Wade should have been knocked off balance a little or Howard should have fallen. And Wade seemed like he warped a little.
                        Does a cheetah stretch before it chases its prey?

                        Ken Griffey Jr.

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                        • VDusen04
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 13048

                          #102
                          Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                          Originally posted by tmactic
                          You say lots of dunks??? I say that is what would happen in real life if these two teams played. I can name a few allstars that are out on the court in that vid. Did you see how bad the user defense was not holding down the paint? I did see what playing good defense could be like in the vid but only a few times. I repeat the Heat and the Magic will have lots of dunks in real life this year.
                          I'd have to disagree in regards to the amount of dunks mimicking a real life matchup between these two teams. Each club has explosive players (or formerly explosive players in Vince Carter's regard) but in real life this does not equal out to a dunk on 70% of the possessions. I understand the ability to use sliders but I question as to what extent they may help these situations.

                          I am not an online player, but in those online matchups, are you able to lower sliders (vert, dunk, etc)?

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                          • Tha_Kid
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 6550

                            #103
                            Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                            Originally posted by Tha_Kid
                            the eurostep in place (an issue I thought was supposed to be addressed)
                            Originally posted by 23
                            Euro step never gets stopped
                            http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2041432082

                            Originally posted by rEAnimator
                            If you do a pro hop or running gather directly into your opponent and you collide with him in the first part of the animation you will be deemed "out of control" and will be called for an offensive foul.

                            If you are traveling away from the hoop, either by steering into a euro step or doing a pro hop to the side or back, you're safe and cannot be called for the foul (unless you do it into someone who is taking a charge).
                            So I guess Wade did his gather to the side and the way to stop that would be to flop? It's not unstoppable but still looks odd.

                            That collision at 4:00 when Carter tried to dunk has to be a foul. The only play there for the defense should've been moving over and using the take charge button. Since that was completely broken in Live 10, it would've shown a big fix as far as defensive strategy. Being there should stop the dunk (most times) with a foul and collision, and jumping should result in what happened in the video with a foul.

                            Also, Arroyo is out of bounds when he grabs the miss by Carter. This series needs to respect the boundaries. Do they even have dive for the ball animations or saves?
                            Last edited by Tha_Kid; 09-05-2010, 02:55 PM.

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                            • Jano
                              You Dead Wrong
                              • May 2004
                              • 3162

                              #104
                              Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                              Originally posted by VDusen04
                              I am not an online player, but in those online matchups, are you able to lower sliders (vert, dunk, etc)?
                              Well that's why the difficulty level is going to be very important.

                              I thought the higher difficulties did a good job at making sure the game wasn't a dunk fest online so I hope its the same this year..

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                              • jr2424
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 430

                                #105
                                Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                                Originally posted by tmactic
                                You say lots of dunks??? I say that is what would happen in real life if these two teams played. I can name a few allstars that are out on the court in that vid. Did you see how bad the user defense was not holding down the paint? I did see what playing good defense could be like in the vid but only a few times. I repeat the Heat and the Magic will have lots of dunks in real life this year.
                                The Orlando Magic is a 3-point shooting team first and foremost. They like to spread the floor, run high screen-and-roll with Howard which when he cuts to the rim one of the of perimeter defenders has to leave his man to help on Howard on the roll. Once that happens, it's bombs away because that help defender has to leave a shooter. The Magic led the league in 3s last season so all the dunks shouldn't be about the matchup.

                                The Heat will have its fair share of dunks this season (to say the least) but with all the shooters they have to spread the floor, it will also be bombs away when Wade and LeBron beat their man on the perimeter. Same scenario, help defender drops down, leaving a shooter wide open.
                                Last edited by jr2424; 09-05-2010, 02:55 PM.
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