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  • scottyp180
    MVP
    • Jun 2007
    • 2184

    #106
    Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

    Originally posted by tmactic
    You say lots of dunks??? I say that is what would happen in real life if these two teams played. I can name a few allstars that are out on the court in that vid. Did you see how bad the user defense was not holding down the paint? I did see what playing good defense could be like in the vid but only a few times. I repeat the Heat and the Magic will have lots of dunks in real life this year.
    Lol so when the heat and magic play this year its just gna be fast paced, attack the rim basketball resulting in many dunks? Rarely in this video did the player look for jumpshots. It was all about exploiting bad defense. I watch a lot of basketball and I never saw an NBA game with this many highlight dunks IN THE FIRST QUARTER. The only way this would happen in real life is if the players completely forgot how to play defense on some plays.

    If you look at the clippers vs hornets gameplay you see similar unrealistic things, such as blake griffin throwin down 2 alley oops with atleast one defender near him. But that's what happens when its human vs human. People like to play fast pace, and when defense is that bad its going to result in alot of dunks. This is how 2k10 was. It could be played realistically,but if you get two people playing each other it could be a dunkfest.

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    • Boilerbuzz
      D* B**rs!
      • Jul 2002
      • 5154

      #107
      Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

      Originally posted by kmart2180
      Wow I think you got your games mixed up bro. The spacing on live/elite makes for better mid-range jumpers than on 2k. Dont base the game on how some choose the play in these vids. The mid jumper is great on Live/Elite.
      Dude, he didn't compare it to 2K. He just used the line from 2K. And based on the 4 videos we've seen, you can't dismiss his point!

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      • fatleg3
        MVP
        • Aug 2008
        • 3602

        #108
        Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

        Originally posted by i c u cant stop me
        [/B]

        dont remind me....lol
        lol I also think we get no love based on orlandos media market. We dont have the same market as la,bos,mia, or even ny. I have seen player say they would love to play for ny because if there tradition. WTH. This is not college where tradition matters. I want to win so im what to play with the team that has the best chance of wining. Orl does not really get those big name free agents. Vince carter came cause this is his home basically and so did t-mac. lewis came through a sign and trade and hedo was far better then anyone thought he would be

        But looking at the video i really do think they have the new arena in. Look at the name on the court. They changed it to amway center. I dont know if it was changed to center irl but at least the changed it on the game to show that its a different arena. Maybe they did it because everything else as outside the courts are the same for every arena basically except for the lighting

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        • Mrko
          Rookie
          • Aug 2010
          • 60

          #109
          Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

          I have to admit, the game looks a little better, but im still not excited. Dribbling looks good and responsive, but over done. Looks like an An1 game. Everybody is dunking on everybody. To much sliding. On a side note, i done know who's playing this game, but he must have a collection off controllers. Sounds like he's breaking the damn think. Take it EASY dude.

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          • Tha_Kid
            All Star
            • Oct 2002
            • 6550

            #110
            Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

            Since the game allows you to choose to attempt the dunk everytime, there really needs to be a proper penalty for it. Players may be capable of dunking in these situations all of the time but they choose to take a layup for a variety of reasons, chiefly the contact. The game doesn't have injuries so that's out, but there should be some rim checking and trips to the line instead.

            And the more I watch Lebron and Wade and Carter handle the ball exactly the same, the uglier it is. Not to mention the stepbacks that looked so good in Live 10 are now just ugly.
            Last edited by Tha_Kid; 09-05-2010, 03:05 PM.

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            • jehrenfried
              Rookie
              • Jun 2010
              • 8

              #111
              its a three year project, from what i hear, so ill wait to buy this for about another three years lol

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              • J-Clutch1
                MVP
                • Sep 2008
                • 2448

                #112
                Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                Originally posted by Tha_Kid
                Since the game allows you to choose to attempt the dunk everytime, there really needs to be a proper penalty for it. Players may be capable of dunking in these situations all of the time but they choose to take a layup for a variety of reasons, chiefly the contact. The game doesn't have injuries so that's out, but there should be some rim checking and trips to the line instead.

                And the more I watch Lebron and Wade and Carter handle the ball exactly the same, the uglier it is. Not to mention the stepbacks that looked so good in Live 10 are now roughshod.
                The game doesn't have injuries?

                And I agree, I want it to look and feel like I'm controlling a different player/team.

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                • fatleg3
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 3602

                  #113
                  Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                  Originally posted by scottyp180
                  This video, along with the clippers hornets one, are definitely an encouraging sign; they actually got me excited to try the demo. The game looks fun, but as far as a basketball sim it still has a ways to go.

                  Some notes off the top of my head:
                  -Physics engine looks very inconsistent. At times the interaction between players looks fluid and realistic, but other times, wades dunk around 1:02, a player will get dunked on as if he wasn't even there.

                  -The player movement needs some work, players are a little to stiff in there movements, not to mention the sliding/skating.

                  -Can someone tell me how that vince carter hopstep isn't a travel? I don't know the rules for hopsteps but that looked more like a jump than a hop to me. I do have to say that his pump fake right before the hopstep looked really good.

                  -Inside bounce passes get through way to easy. Reminds me of the lead pass problem of 2k.

                  -I really like the crowd noise and playoff atmosphere. That plus the addition of the ESPN crew really makes it feel like a playoff game on TV.

                  -A lot of people saying that this game is too fast paced and arcadey, which i agree, but sliders could correct this problem.

                  I think EA put themselves in a tough position with all their hype and talk about the physics engine. People were expecting this game to be leaps and bounds better than Live 10 and it's arguable which direction Elite 11 is going. This being the first year of a rebuilding process I think people were expecting a little to much out of EA. In a couple years the changes that have been put in place could result in a great game but right now EA still has some kinks to work out.

                  With all the patches and updates developers can do to games this could be a very different game in a couple of months. I remember reading a preview for this game in June and the article mentioned how quickly some problems could be fixed with the new engine. Perhaps there could be a Backbreaker 'Great House' like patch that can fix many issues and also add something to the game.
                  Im not making an excuse for elite but the majority of travels do not get called in the nba. Thats just one of those things players get away with in the nba like when wr push off going for a ball in the nfl. It gets called but all to often it does not.

                  But i would like for it to be called often in elite. There was also alot of travling in live 10 but i think that was because of the canned animations

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                  • Tha_Kid
                    All Star
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 6550

                    #114
                    Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                    Originally posted by jehrenfried
                    its a three year project, from what i hear, so ill wait to buy this for about another three years lol
                    First & last time i'll post on these types of comments, but every sports game has a plan for the future. If you wait to buy 2K or Madden or NHL or The Show for 3 years, you'd find much better games across the board.

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                    • FearlessKaz
                      Rookie
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 260

                      #115
                      Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                      Looks pretty easy to do a bounce pass into traffic. Guys are threading the needle left and right.

                      What happened to kicked ball violations?

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                      • mrprice33
                        Just some guy
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 5986

                        #116
                        Yeah, the wade drive and dunk should have had a huge collison with both guys going flying. That warp and push has been in basketball games for way too long.
                        Originally posted by Tha_Kid
                        Since the game allows you to choose to attempt the dunk everytime, there really needs to be a proper penalty for it. Players may be capable of dunking in these situations all of the time but they choose to take a layup for a variety of reasons, chiefly the contact. The game doesn't have injuries so that's out, but there should be some rim checking and trips to the line instead.

                        And the more I watch Lebron and Wade and Carter handle the ball exactly the same, the uglier it is. Not to mention the stepbacks that looked so good in Live 10 are now just ugly.


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                        • Tha_Kid
                          All Star
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 6550

                          #117
                          Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                          Originally posted by V!n$an!+y
                          The game doesn't have injuries?

                          And I agree, I want it to look and feel like I'm controlling a different player/team.
                          The injuries are the same as in Live 10, so no in-game injuries. They only occur through simming in a dynasty/season.

                          I think a sigged out version of Elite's ballhandling would be the best in any basketball game. I knew we wouldn't get that this year but I expected more than just Big/Small.

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                          • SFBonds
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 64

                            #118
                            Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                            Love the vids.

                            Found it interesting though that they released a vid using a camera in front of a tv...

                            From David Littman:
                            "Hey guys...we will be putting out more and more videos as we drive to finish the game. Next week's videos will be direct capture, because these videos look a bit fast when just filmed with a camera in front of a TV."

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                            • Dawgthem
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 311

                              #119
                              Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                              Originally posted by fatleg3
                              Im not making an excuse for elite but the majority of travels do not get called in the nba. Thats just one of those things players get away with in the nba like when wr push off going for a ball in the nfl. It gets called but all to often it does not.

                              But i would like for it to be called often in elite. There was also alot of travling in live 10 but i think that was because of the canned animations

                              Thats the lamest exscuse i ever heared it is called in the NBA it just rarely happens players don't travel alot but when it happens its called at any situation..remember Lebron's so called crab walk................TRAVEl it was called in a clutch shot situation

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                              • Tha_Kid
                                All Star
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 6550

                                #120
                                Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                                @ scottyp, the Vince Carter hopstep is legal, he picks up his dribble so you get two steps, the hop step is just landing on both feet for your second step. Carter lands on both feet, then goes straight up into the dunk. I think the animation is a bit long and the player (Carter in this case) gets too much air which does make it look a bit funny.

                                I also think if you choose to dunk after a hop step gather, there needs to be a specific library of dunks for that. Same with the other gathers.
                                Last edited by Tha_Kid; 09-05-2010, 03:25 PM.

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