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  • mrprice33
    Just some guy
    • Jul 2003
    • 5986

    #121
    Originally posted by Dawgthem
    Thats the lamest exscuse i ever heared it is called in the NBA it just rarely happens players don't travel alot but when it happens its called at any situation..remember Lebron's so called crab walk................TRAVEl it was called in a clutch shot situation
    Players travel a ton in the NBA, and it very rarely gets called. This is one of the main complaints basketball "purists" have with the modern NBA. James' so-called crab dribble was so effective because it was never called prior to that one play in that one game. The move was so common for him he even named it. What does that tell you?



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    • kingpnp
      Banned
      • Jul 2008
      • 61

      #122
      Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

      Originally posted by Mike Smoove
      Gonna be a cheese fest this year. Gameplay looks better on Broadcast but im getting discouraged by how easy it looks to get to the hole.
      if people can no longer pass thru you. then unless people can move you backwards(sliding) pro hoping. the only way others could just pro hop you to death or run and dunk you to death is if YOUR PERSONAL defense is lacking. and i will say this. MOST of you guys and gamers period DONT play defense. its a fact. you dont know how to play defense. its not just moving. its anticipation. no the players weakness. you play off of wade and james and vc. you clog the paint so they cant take off. most people in real life dont play real good defense. so YES it will be hard for non defensive minded people to turn into defensive minded people. this is why u guys like Defensive assistance where as the true defensive minded people like myself dont want the assist. i just want RTP so i can make my defensive decisions good or bad. i have that much faith in my defense.

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      • Dawgthem
        Banned
        • Aug 2010
        • 311

        #123
        Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

        Originally posted by mrprice33
        Players travel a ton in the NBA, and it very rarely gets called. This is one of the main complaints basketball "purists" have with the modern NBA. James' so-called crab dribble was so effective because it was never called prior to that one play in that one game. The move was so common for him he even named it. What does that tell you?..............



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        Dude he did it rarely before then there are hardly in highlights of it in the Nba...and travels are always called my dude trust me palyers just rarely travel ...check the high of shannon brown wide open down court on a fast break..he travels but the video on youtube dosen't capture that but as soon as he dunks he looks at the reff cause the ref called it a travel..there always called my dude its just players rarely do it.

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        • mrprice33
          Just some guy
          • Jul 2003
          • 5986

          #124
          Also, ease of driving on default difficulty settings has been a problem going back to Sega Genesis days. No game has introduced any system that accurately represents physicality in basketball. Reckless driving should cause wear and tear on a players body, causing more injuries and ratings drops.

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          • Jano
            You Dead Wrong
            • May 2004
            • 3161

            #125
            Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

            Originally posted by Tha_Kid
            I think the animation is a bit long and the player (Carter in this case) gets too much air which does make it look a bit funny.

            I also think if you choose to dunk after a hop step gather, there needs to be a specific library of dunks for that. Same with the other gathers.
            That's exactly how I felt... that dunk shouldn't have been done especially for that situation.

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            • Boilerbuzz
              D* B**rs!
              • Jul 2002
              • 5154

              #126
              Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

              Originally posted by havok023
              why cant you look at the positive for once
              Why do you have to police anyone?

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              • mrprice33
                Just some guy
                • Jul 2003
                • 5986

                #127
                Let me guess, you think players also never set illegal screens, hence why those are never called.
                Originally posted by Dawgthem
                Dude he did it rarely before then there are hardly in highlights of it in the Nba...and travels are always called my dude trust me palyers just rarely travel ...check the high of shannon brown wide open down court on a fast break..he travels but the video on youtube dosen't capture that but as soon as he dunks he looks at the reff cause the ref called it a travel..there always called my dude its just players rarely do it. He did it only in college and it was never called


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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #128
                  Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                  Finally some REAL fastbreaks with players spreading the floor on the run.....

                  Maybe some of the Live 10 apologists will fess up now....these were NOT in last years game...lol

                  Overall good vid....I still feel the games generic but im not going to say that in every gameplay thread...ready for the demo!

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                  • havok023
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 96

                    #129
                    Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                    Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
                    Why do you have to police anyone?
                    your policing me if anything you have a post for every post i put up telling me what to do and what not to do

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                    • NS HeLLaDOPe
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 16

                      #130
                      Watching this was like getting my arm chopped off and then stuck in a fan. This game is truly an "ARCADE" game..the players move arcadey and the gameplay does 2. Only thing Elite has over 2k is the accessories, but 2k will dominating in that department pretty soon. Yea yall might say im hating but im just calling it like i see it, yall cant tell me that the 1st dunk by wade didnt look o'so Fake I mean here he is dribbling doing moves then out of nowhere its almost as if he teleports to the rim for a dunk Realism(FAIL). Lets be honest with ourselves, if they where to pair Nba Elite and NBA 2K, up with football games NBA 2K would be paired up with Madden and Nba Elite would "most DEFINITELY" be paired up with NFL Blitz.

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                      • fatleg3
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 3602

                        #131
                        Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                        Originally posted by Dawgthem
                        Thats the lamest exscuse i ever heared it is called in the NBA it just rarely happens players don't travel alot but when it happens its called at any situation..remember Lebron's so called crab walk................TRAVEl it was called in a clutch shot situation
                        How is it an excuse. I said i would like for it to be called. I also did not say it never gets called

                        And are you kidding me lebron travels more then anyone in the nba without getting called for it most of the time
                        Here is your king james traveling also. He does these things alot
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                        This show alot of what happens every game in the nba. Just like carrying the ball. it rarely gets called
                        Last edited by fatleg3; 09-05-2010, 03:49 PM.

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                        • mrprice33
                          Just some guy
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 5986

                          #132
                          Let's recap some of what we have learned from this TrueHoop investigation into traveling in the NBA: NBA referees -- instructed to allow two steps where the rulebook allows for one -- aren't calling traveling by the book.


                          The enormous flat-screen TV on the wall of Joe Borgia's office is showing a moment of the 2005 Christmas day game. The Miami Heat's Dwyane Wade catches the ball on the right wing, eyes up his defender, the Lakers' Kobe Bryant, and plows into the lane.


                          "I don't see a travel," says Borgia. "He gathers the ball, and then he gets a one-two." The same play appears in slow motion. At this speed, however, it's clear Wade's spin included a simultaneous hop. That's a moving pivot foot --which should be called a travel every time."
                          In that play, Wade clearly picks up the ball and then takes two steps. But the NBA rulebook, and a hundred million basketball fans around the globe, insist players ought to get only one step after picking up their dribble like that. Yet Borgia was ready to give him --and every other player --two steps in that situation. In the conversation that follows, Borgia unravels one of the NBA's great secrets. "We really don't reference the rulebook." Disgust. For many of basketball's fans, that's the main reaction to seeing today's NBA players cover great distances --sometimes almost all the way from the 3-point line to the rim --without dribbling the ball. "It's very blatant now," says Walt "Clyde" Frazier. One of the greatest point guards in NBA history, Frazier is also, as a Knick team broadcaster, a close observer of today's game. "They go twenty feet to the hoop without dribbling one time. This is what they are getting away with nowadays. Some of them are so obvious. You'll hear me on the broadcast saying 'That's a travel! Watch the feet!' Wilt [Chamberlain] would have averaged 100 points a game if they had let him do that."

                          Originally posted by Dawgthem
                          Dude he did it rarely before then there are hardly in highlights of it in the Nba...and travels are always called my dude trust me palyers just rarely travel ...check the high of shannon brown wide open down court on a fast break..he travels but the video on youtube dosen't capture that but as soon as he dunks he looks at the reff cause the ref called it a travel..there always called my dude its just players rarely do it.


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                          • Forever_Young83
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 225

                            #133
                            Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                            Wow in the first few seconds of the video i see Dwight do a turn around jumper right near the basket, like when have you ever seen him do that??? WTF like i keep sayin where is the realisim. Iv'e seen that little turn around jumper while close to the basket way to many time in these videos.
                            Last edited by Forever_Young83; 09-05-2010, 03:49 PM.

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                            • dvir10
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 496

                              #134
                              Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                              why there aren't any fouls called???
                              20 minutes of gameplay(all 4 clips combined together) and i saw only two free throws, it's not realistic! when vc went for a dunk at 4:00 bosh clearly made a foul and there was no whistle. hop step seems to powerfull and pick and roll seems stopless.
                              other then those things, the game looked not bad at all. the espn integration is great!!! and
                              makes the game very colorful.

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                              • Dawgthem
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 311

                                #135
                                Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                                Originally posted by mrprice33
                                http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...write-the-rule

                                The enormous flat-screen TV on the wall of Joe Borgia's office is showing a moment of the 2005 Christmas day game. The Miami Heat's Dwyane Wade catches the ball on the right wing, eyes up his defender, the Lakers' Kobe Bryant, and plows into the lane.


                                "I don't see a travel," says Borgia. "He gathers the ball, and then he gets a one-two." The same play appears in slow motion. At this speed, however, it's clear Wade's spin included a simultaneous hop. That's a moving pivot foot --which should be called a travel every time."
                                In that play, Wade clearly picks up the ball and then takes two steps. But the NBA rulebook, and a hundred million basketball fans around the globe, insist players ought to get only one step after picking up their dribble like that. Yet Borgia was ready to give him --and every other player --two steps in that situation. In the conversation that follows, Borgia unravels one of the NBA's great secrets. "We really don't reference the rulebook." Disgust. For many of basketball's fans, that's the main reaction to seeing today's NBA players cover great distances --sometimes almost all the way from the 3-point line to the rim --without dribbling the ball. "It's very blatant now," says Walt "Clyde" Frazier. One of the greatest point guards in NBA history, Frazier is also, as a Knick team broadcaster, a close observer of today's game. "They go twenty feet to the hoop without dribbling one time. This is what they are getting away with nowadays. Some of them are so obvious. You'll hear me on the broadcast saying 'That's a travel! Watch the feet!' Wilt [Chamberlain] would have averaged 100 points a game if they had let him do that."





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                                Okay this is the more important fact,....have you ever did a travel in a video game that didn't seem legit based on you other than a tech error............Dude video games aren't ment to do small traveling eras other then the ones you make them commit. WHy would Elite slidein traveling in a simlulation basketball game...so are we also throwing in illegal moving screens into our basketball games to make them realistic TOO!...those things are errors within simuilations not representing simulation at its finest..saying the traveling in Elite is something they did to add to realism is------------------

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