NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

[fatleg3]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

NBA Live has never had any real complex post moves ever..And if the game is more stripped down than last years, i just put two and two together. The game doesn't even have that many animations to begin with.

But they have said they have worked on the post game

[Teebone21]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

EA Sports presents: How to make a mediocre game look great, in 3 simple steps:

1) Invite people to play the game and hope some of them upload awful looking videos.

2) Release couple of gameplay videos that look horrible.

3) Release gameplay videos (Broadcast cam) that show a below average game, but because they look better than the previous ones, customers think that the game is great.

And there you have it, folks. It's all psychology.

[Hydraz]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

EA Sports presents: How to make a mediocre game look great, in 3 simple steps:

1) Invite people to play the game and hope some of them upload awful looking videos.

2) Release couple of gameplay videos that look horrible.

3) Release gameplay videos (Broadcast cam) that show a below average game, but because they look better than the previous ones, customers think that the game is great.

And there you have it, folks. It's all psychology.

You sound familiar...

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

It's the execution, my friend. Execution. Sim is about how you execute going to your strengths within the frame of basketball and if you have your full control it's a beauty, if a user is dump enough to make a j with D. Howard then let him do pls, he willl suffer the consequence cause it won't execute, see.

You're definitely missing a 'big' point here. Shaq can throw a trey anytime he would like on court, he has the control but he knows he can't execute that so he won't and whenever he tries he will choke. And so on you can multiply the examples etc.

If you don't know who you control, and his capabilities, and if you don't know how to execute right with full control in your hands then you'll choke and this is sim in its fullest sense, that's the difference just pressing a button and waiting for the outcome, instead you'll decide on the outcome.

I know all of this. You miss the point of what I was saying. When you throw ALL of the elements you mentioned into the final stages to determine the outcome, if the user can OVERCOME all of those elements, it ceases to be sim. Whether or not you make it harder only goes so far if you have such a deterministic system driven primarily by the user and not the foundation of the game itself. If you have a player that has NO business taking a shot he doesn't take or shouldn't take, yet you can still hit that shot because you hit the "sweet spot", the suspension of reality is gone. The "sim" is broken.

[neptuneniq]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

that fast break with lebron......he doesnt use 2 hands! hmmph im mad


jk, kinda


certain parts of the video was good like howards post game and the dribbling.
still saw too many dunks, when ur suppose to have contact

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

EA Sports presents: How to make a mediocre game look great, in 3 simple steps:

1) Invite people to play the game and hope some of them upload awful looking videos.

2) Release couple of gameplay videos that look horrible.

3) Release gameplay videos (Broadcast cam) that show a below average game, but because they look better than the previous ones, customers think that the game is great.

And there you have it, folks. It's all psychology.

That's cold dude. Although that has been done before, I doubt anyone would ever do that in the game's industry. Does make one think though.

[tybud]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

It's the execution, my friend. Execution. Sim is about how you execute going to your strengths within the frame of basketball and if you have your full control it's a beauty, if a user is dump enough to make a j with D. Howard then let him do pls, he willl suffer the consequence cause it won't execute, see.

You're definitely missing a 'big' point here. Shaq can throw a trey anytime he would like on court, he has the control but he knows he can't execute that so he won't and whenever he tries he will choke. And so on you can multiply the examples etc.

If you don't know who you control, and his capabilities, and if you don't know how to execute right with full control in your hands then you'll choke and this is sim in its fullest sense, that's the difference just pressing a button and waiting for the outcome, instead you'll decide on the outcome.

you are rite a hundred percent on that.

[jtdribbles25]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

Well how about the a running hook, up and under, a fake into a spin or a step through. I don't think your able to do any of these in this game.

it has most of these moves. you'll complain that the guy doing them looks like hakeem tho.

[fatleg3]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

it has most of these moves. you'll complain that the guy doing them looks like hakeem tho.

[anny19]

i notice that these guy are getn better on defense personally on dis game i think u hav 2 work jus as hard on defense as offense which is a gud thing

[BiggD]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

2 things i NEED to see...

1. CPU vs USER or CPU vs CPU (last year every team played the same...shot goes up after 2-3 passes,has this changed???)

2. This improved post play that EA have been talking about...where are the hook shots,up and unders and ball fakes etc...

this is a better video, i liked LBJ playing the passing lane for the steal but as stated many times already there are WAYYYYY too many dunks

[tybud]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

I know all of this. You miss the point of what I was saying. When you throw ALL of the elements you mentioned into the final stages to determine the outcome, if the user can OVERCOME all of those elements, it ceases to be sim. Whether or not you make it harder only goes so far if you have such a deterministic system driven primarily by the user and not the foundation of the game itself. If you have a player that has NO business taking a shot he doesn't take or shouldn't take, yet you can still hit that shot because you hit the "sweet spot", the suspension of reality is gone. The "sim" is broken.

everything you stated up until the point you made about the sweetspot was rite. but why would there be a sweet spot for a player on the court if thats not his normal sweet spot. are you thinking that ea is giving out generic sweet spots.

[havok023]

Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

2 things i NEED to see...

1. CPU vs USER or CPU vs CPU (last year every team played the same...shot goes up after 2-3 passes,has this changed???)

2. This improved post play that EA have been talking about...where are the hook shots,up and unders and ball fakes etc...

this is a better video, i liked LBJ playing the passing lane for the steal but as stated many times already there are WAYYYYY too many dunks

they already made user vs cpu and it was the same thing it looked like a couple of passes then they would shoot
there is going to be videos that show the hook shots ball fakes and all that stuff next week

[ghiz143]

you know what... if 2k11 dosnt have MJ himself in the game.. looks like elite 11 will dominate.. but with 2k11 MJ.. its gonna be hard.

[ghiz143]

i like the d howard's block on wade.