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  • Forever_Young83
    Banned
    • Jul 2010
    • 225

    #556
    Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

    Guys don't let your game preference decide how bad the game looks, just be realistic. I'm a die hard NBA 2K Fan and have been since the beginning, but i always checked to see what NBA Live was doing with the new games each year.

    This year it really seems that they over hyped the RTP and even the marketing has been so so. I don't know it just seems like they were more confident in last years game than this years.

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    • sportyguyfl31
      MVP
      • Nov 2005
      • 4745

      #557
      Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

      Originally posted by Forever_Young83
      Guys don't let your game preference decide how bad the game looks, just be realistic. I'm a die hard NBA 2K Fan and have been since the beginning, but i always checked to see what NBA Live was doing with the new games each year.

      This year it really seems that they over hyped the RTP and even the marketing has been so so. I don't know it just seems like they were more confident in last years game than this years.

      I dont get that impression at all.

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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #558
        Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

        what a difference a year makes....just last year...everyome swore up and down the contact animation was "user error" stemming from improper use of "layup solutions"..........funny stuff

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        • RxB
          Rookie
          • Oct 2008
          • 38

          #559
          Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

          Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
          Every sports video game ever made has arcade elements.

          A game is only as sim as you play it. You can pick up any sports game and act a fool, if you want to, and see nonsense.

          Honestly, the most sim basketball game I have ever played was NBA Live 10.

          It punished lunatics who just wanted to barrel into the lane with the Lebrons of the world, or take crazy off the dribble jumpers.

          With that said, Im disappointed in the hop step...Ive said it before, but that is going to be a mess online.

          Just a hunch, but I have the feeling this game will be viewed more favorably once people get their hands on the controls...I really dont see the lack of animations Vs. last year.

          The difference is that you are trigging them yourself, from what I can see.

          I think the key is going to be how user friendly the control layout is going to be.

          The graphics do look duller then last year, no doubt. I dont see why they couldnt have kept the same graphical sharpness, to go along with the control scheme.

          Live 10 was a vibrant colorful game, but I still think the things that Live does well are still present: Spacing, body contact, play calling layout, arena sound.

          The game does lack the personality and color of Live 10...thats really the biggest difference I see. I absolutely loved how NBA Live 10 sounded. It felt exactly like being in a NBA arena.

          Im looking forward to trying the demo.

          How accesible and intuitive I find the control scheme is going to be the make or break for me.
          Exactly!! you read my mind bro! Your post is giving me at least some hope the game will be fun to play, but as you said..we need the demo to know that!

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          • Eddie1967
            Against The Crowd!
            • Aug 2005
            • 2406

            #560
            Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

            Stiff awkward movement by the players, bland commentary and atmosphere. The players almost seem to be hopping around the court and the court looks to small to fit them all. It's hard to believe but this game looks like it took a HUGE step back from last year. NBA Elite or NBA Live it's still looks like this franchise is struggling to look and sound like a real NBA basketball game. I was not a fan of last years effort but it looks like they scrapped that and started over and it doesn't look or sound good at all.
            Last edited by Eddie1967; 09-03-2010, 07:41 PM.
            Originally posted by jim416
            You are the 2k Police. :)

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            • Rocboyz101
              MVP
              • Aug 2009
              • 1550

              #561
              Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

              Originally posted by JWiLL02
              For the last 2 years Live's controls have blown 2k's out of the water and look at what the consumer's response was...what more do they need to see?

              Live 10 was the best controlling basketball game I've ever played while 2k10's movement was almost broken, but the depth of animations carried it.

              I just don't understand the decision to dedicate an entire year on controls when you already had the best 'feeling' game on the market. Now they've awoken a sleeping giant on the other side and may not even have the best controlling game this year, while their competitor continued to build on it's massive signature animation collection.

              Opportunity missed, IMO.
              I've gotta agree with this. If they spent this year working on animations, rebounding, and the glitches from live 10..this would be a great yr for them imo.
              "I'm so far ahead of my time, I'm bout to start another life
              Look behind you, I'm bout to pass you twice
              Back to the future and gotta slow up for the present
              I'm fast, dudes can't get past my past
              How they supposed to deal with my perfect present?"

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              • bmgoff11
                Rookie
                • Sep 2009
                • 108

                #562
                after watching vid again the game looks good to me will probably buy both games this year

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                • taqiyya
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 228

                  #563
                  I was a huge fan of live 10!! This crap here is straight ugly! I mean come on!!

                  You know what to be honest, I think it was a great move changing the name of this title,because if someone decided to check out NBA live 11 after hearing about 10......You know how the rest would be
                  It aint my fault!!

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                  • tha_show256
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 390

                    #564
                    Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

                    With all the talk of real time physics, in these two videos that have been released I haven't seen anything that has looked like rtp has played a big part in the animations...I'm sorry, I've been a big Live guy now for last 15 yrs, I've stuck through some bad titles, espically the one's that started out on the next gen consoles. But this game at some parts just looks plain silly and ugly!! I've seen pro hops that made me literally lol!! But sadly, its not a joke, the developers have spent a lot time on this title so I feel like I must at least give the demo a shot, but the way things look at the moment, I am very disappointed!!
                    I'm a diehard St. Louis Cardinals Fan!! Birds on the bat til I die!

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                    • KingofATL
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 84

                      #565
                      OMG!!!!......Yo I am like really, REALLY....Disappointed in this title. Wow I thought EA would have came waaaaaay better than this. Seeing that they did such a decant job with Madden11 & NCAA 11. Now I perfectly understand Mike Wang wanting to leave if this is EA's direction going forward. I agree with (btrapp), I see there is less animations but this still doesn't seem like NBA Simulation Basketball, @ least not in my opinion. Last year I bought both games, this year I think my decision will be pretty easy.....2K11 for me fellaz.

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                      • kingpnp
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 61

                        #566
                        Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

                        Originally posted by tha_show256
                        With all the talk of real time physics, in these two videos that have been released I haven't seen anything that has looked like rtp has played a big part in the animations...I'm sorry, I've been a big Live guy now for last 15 yrs, I've stuck through some bad titles, espically the one's that started out on the next gen consoles. But this game at some parts just looks plain silly and ugly!! I've seen pro hops that made me literally lol!! But sadly, its not a joke, the developers have spent a lot time on this title so I feel like I must at least give the demo a shot, but the way things look at the moment, I am very disappointed!!
                        actually you have seen real time physics. and a live ball. have you seen the ball pass thru anyone? NO. did you see the blocked shots? yes. notice how the shots were blocked. go back over the vids. lastly, i dont know why we keep having to say this. but rtp is not for visual effects, is for CONTROL. CONTROL = FEEL. not SEE. FEEL. you have to play the game to find out if RTP allows you to be in CONTROL vs a canned animation. thats the only way you can truly say they failed or they did great with RTP. not thru vids. it doesn't make animations look better the devs told us that.

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                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #567
                          Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

                          Actually the physics are supposed to be for collisions, and contact not the control/feel of the sticks

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                          • Dawgthem
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 311

                            #568
                            Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

                            Originally posted by 23
                            Actually the physics are supposed to be for collisions, and contact not the control/feel of the sticks

                            I think my sig speaks for all of these guys bashing the game

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                            • RayDog253
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 984

                              #569
                              Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

                              Originally posted by 23
                              Actually the physics are supposed to be for collisions, and contact not the control/feel of the sticks
                              Actually it's for both. Because without RTP you wouldn't have the control and freedom on the court that Elite is providing.

                              But that's just what I got from the Developers post, cause like most, I have yet to play the game.
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                              • Tha_Kid
                                All Star
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 6550

                                #570
                                Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Milwaukee Bucks @ New York Knicks

                                Originally posted by RayDog253
                                Actually it's for both. Because without RTP you wouldn't have the control and freedom on the court that Elite is providing.

                                But that's just what I got from the Developers post, cause like most, I have yet to play the game.
                                The physics blog says it ties in to the feel on the sticks on defense. I don't know about offense though.

                                Originally posted by rEAnimator
                                Effective physical play isn’t of any use if you don’t have enough control over your defensive player to stay between your man and the basket. That’s why we scrapped our old locomotion system and implemented something new that is driven entirely using physics.

                                What this means is that you’ll get a level of responsiveness like you’ve never experienced before in a basketball game. Because the player is a particle in our physics simulation with a mass and forces applied to him, what he does will always respect momentum and will have a very consistent feel. We’ve tuned the momentum to give you just the level of responsiveness you need to stay with your opponent if you concentrate and react quickly to what your opponent does.

                                The physics implementation also makes it easy to give different players a different feel based on their player ratings.

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