NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3)

[rudyjuly2]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available (PS3)

Pfft... don't buy into all of that crap the game was bad after the patch and tuner. The people that relay that type of opinion are the one that didn't bother with adjusting their sliders.

That's not true. The second patch broke some things and the cpu couldn't run the ball at all against me on AA post patch #2 no matter what sliders I used (cpu run block 100, human run defense 0). The fact EA said they fixed the rush defense slider leads me to believe I was right. For some of us, the second patch ruined All American.

I don't want to get into second patch issues again but your statement is short sighted and only relative to your experience.

[ktd1976]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 Available, Live Tuning Pack 3 Soon

Some schedules were fixed, sort of, but most of them are still filled with errors. The 6 Big 12 teams that either had 3 or 5 conference home games is still there, same for a handful of SEC schools, Houston and Notre Dame. They still start on the wrong date. There shouldn't even be a week 15. There should only be 14. That goes for most every year. Arizona State and Stanford still play 6 conference road games and only 3 home. San Jose State and Wisconsin still only have 11 unless you go fix it manually.

The only changes to the schedule seem to be adding USC-Wazzu and Nevada-Boise, and the 1 other WAC game that was missing. It took away USC-Hawaii, and invented a game for West Virginia that they're not playing. I'm sure if I sim into season 2, I'll see that conference games still don't rotate, so this did very little to fix the problem, just took it from horrible to slightly less horrible.

Conference games don't rotate? they did in my Michigan dynasty. In year one, I did not play Minnesota, and I did play them in year 2

[tommygunn]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available (PS3)

How about PA pass? Any better or still sack action?

How about special teams? Any easier to gain yardage??

[Johnny "Too Tall"]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available (PS3)

This doesn't sound like it will work out well for online play. Passing was already too easy, with man coverage being the only somewhat effective defense against the pass. And unless zones has been improved considerably (which would be odd, seeing as they didn't even mention zone coverage at all) passing online is about to get out of hand.

It was kinda stupid seeing everybody run nothing but man, but there are plays that are money against man, and this is before they dumbed down man defense...I can only imagine how easy these plays will be now..

[Sundown2600]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available (PS3)

I don't see any players on any team that received +1 attributes during the season. I'm in Week 15.

I just found out that if you bought the game used and are not signed up with EA's Online Pass you will not see any progression or receive tuner packs. I just found out the hard way. I notice a lot of ppl saying they don't see progression and some saying they do. For the ppl who don't see it, is your game used, and if not, did you redeem the online code for Online Pass in the instruction booklet? A user named Rebel10 posted about this a few pages back.

[greatone09]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available (PS3)

Cough up a spreadsheet. Until then it sounds like speculation and guesswork. Did you check position-specific ratings for all players on a few teams? Did you try running an entire season and then checking? To me, "I simmed four weeks and didn't see anything different" sounds a lot like "I barely checked and am jumping to the worst possible conclusion." This place is a crowded theater - let's stop shouting "FIRE," eh?

Trust me I did my homework. Ive been up all morning checking players ratings from team to team week by week. No progression. And yes im screaming fire because I paid 60 bucks for a broken game and will continue until resolved.

[biggerboat]

What is the word with the depth chart issues post patch? Still there?

[greatone09]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available (PS3)

I don't see any players on any team that received +1 attributes during the season. I'm in Week 15.

Thank You. No progression.

[SecretAgentManCU]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available (PS3)

Trust me I did my homework. Ive been up all morning checking players ratings from team to team week by week. No progression. And yes im screaming fire because I paid 60 bucks for a broken game and will continue until resolved.

So you're pissed off about a feature that may or may not be working that was JUST added and was not in the original game?

[greatone09]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available (PS3)

I just found out that if you bought the game used and are not signed up with EA's Online Pass you will not see any progression or receive tuner packs. I just found out the hard way. I notice a lot of ppl saying they don't see progression and some saying they do. For the ppl who don't see it, is your game used, and if not, did you redeem the online code for Online Pass in the instruction booklet? A user named Rebel10 posted about this a few pages back.

My game is brand new. Who is seeing progression? I want to know.

[rudyjuly2]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available (PS3)

Im not asking for outrageous progression stats. I just want to see progression. I simulated 4 weeks on a online dynasty and no progression was given in any category. I dont think progression was added with patch thats my issue.

In the past EA only calculated in-season progression 1-2 times during the year. Have you simulated to Week 7 or 8 to see the results yet? Maybe they don't give anybody boosts through 4 weeks.

[Hova57]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available (PS3)

Sundown i hate to tell you it only happen to you cause your a knicks fan..lol but its a smart move by ea if people want to play a used game something should be missing , most people play online so it was genius. I'm not sure if its for all their games though.

[SECElit3]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available (PS3)

That's not true. The second patch broke some things and the cpu couldn't run the ball at all against me on AA post patch #2 no matter what sliders I used (cpu run block 100, human run defense 0). The fact EA said they fixed the rush defense slider leads me to believe I was right. For some of us, the second patch ruined All American.

I don't want to get into second patch issues again but your statement is short sighted and only relative to your experience.

Rudy,

Some of your comments pertaining to the game having been "ruined" after the patch were highly misleading. I was able to get a decent game out of the CPU by testing and tweaking the sliders. I think a good majority of the community would agree that the game was still very playable after the 2nd patch and provided a good experience. I do agree the CPU running game took a bit of hit and I have never made an argument against that, but ruined... c'mon man.

[PAPERNUT]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available (PS3)

That's not true. The second patch broke some things and the cpu couldn't run the ball at all against me on AA post patch #2 no matter what sliders I used (cpu run block 100, human run defense 0). The fact EA said they fixed the rush defense slider leads me to believe I was right. For some of us, the second patch ruined All American.

I don't want to get into second patch issues again but your statement is short sighted and only relative to your experience.

That is a fact. I hope these updates will correct this issue and bring AA back up for a challenge again as it was perfect before the last update (or close...). Let me know what you see when you try it out tonight Rudy.

[dalecooper]

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Trust me I did my homework. Ive been up all morning checking players ratings from team to team week by week. No progression. And yes im screaming fire because I paid 60 bucks for a broken game and will continue until resolved.

This feature wasn't even in the last few years games, were they also "broken"? God I am getting so tired of that word. The pump fake glitch is actually broken. The CPU run slider was borderline broken. In-season progression being minimal or non-existent is at worst a slight inconvenience - a window-dressing feature that has little bearing on how the game plays. Even at its peak in the PS2 years, players never progressed more than a couple points overall during the season.

Anyway: play a season and cough up a spreadsheet, or I'm just going to shrug this off. When the head developer at EA says it only affects a few players per team and only up to 1 point OVR for the entire season, that tells me that the differences are going to be minimal and hard to spot. I don't know how I can trust someone telling me that they just sorta looked and nothing changed.