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  • willIam9387
    Pro
    • Jun 2010
    • 640

    #556
    Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

    The one thing that irks me about recruits is that there is a big disconnect present between speed and acceleration. For example, I came across this one recruit who ran a 4.32 forty, so I decided to check out the rest of his attributes. Of course, he had A- speed, no problem there, but he had a C acceleration. Compare this to another recruit that I came across who had the same forty time, same speed rating, but had a B for acceleration. This makes no sense that they would have the same forty time since they have significantly different ratings for acceleration. EA simply equates forty times with speed, but this creates a huge conflict in regards to acceleration. If two players have the same top end speed, yet different accelerations, there forty times should be different.

    Another issue is with the gap between speed and acceleration ratings for players. I'm currently in year 3 of my dynasty, and I checked out ratings of all the players. There are around 25-30 players with 99 acceleration, yet only around a quarter have speed above 90, and vice versa is true if you look at those players with 99 speed. Now I understand that EA is trying to with locomotion put an emphasis on those players who can get to their top gear fast, but a 99 speed WR with 74 acceleration, that really doesn't seem logical or fathomable. If you have 4.28 speed, you probably have great acceleration. But according to EA's logic he can only run a 4.28 40 after he sprints sixty yards, gets to his top speed, and then runs the forty yard dash. Yeah, he can fly, but only after 10 seconds. That's totally unrealistic. In my opinion, the difference between acc and spd for a player should only be five points at most. A fifteen to twenty point gap makes you believe your WR is as fast as your MLB. Football is a game of short burst speed, who cares if you have 4.28 speed if it takes you 30 seconds to get to that level because odds are you'll never get the chance and you'll just play at an average speed.

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    • Gotmadskillzson
      Live your life
      • Apr 2008
      • 23442

      #557
      Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

      I remember the time when players had composure meter. And that meter went up and down through out the game depending how that player played. When that player got rattled, their compsure was low and they would mess up bad. Then you had to call a time out to calm him down.

      I remember they gave you a choice during the time out to either calm down an individual player, offense only, defense only or whole team. Why EA went away from that I don't know.

      I also remember a lot of teams were rated F, D and -C Very few schools were rated an A. About half the schools were C or -B. Now too many schools are rated A and +B.

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      • swhyte21
        Banned
        • Jul 2010
        • 121

        #558
        Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

        Well all the data I'm seeing, seems like it points to the middle of the road teams and a good portion of the upper tier teams are suffering from the diluted 3* pool of players, which is the most recruited of the stars. Hopefully, a tune can set the 3* back to where they were, which would keep the B+ from becoming a C+

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        • sportyguyfl31
          MVP
          • Nov 2005
          • 4745

          #559
          Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

          Originally posted by HeebieJeebie
          Man coverage was unbeatable before the patch and it was stupid. The corners would run the routes for the recievers and now they dont. Your just complaining because now you have to actually play D instead of call 2 man under and sit there.

          first online game post patch was against someone who tried to play press man all game with a bunch of CB who had press ratings in the 70's

          He recieved a torching, and rightfully so.

          Man-2 wasnt unbeatable, but itcertainly was boring, throwing nothing but posts, drags, slants, over and over again, and watching these fools just stay in that one defense all game.

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          • novadolla
            Pro
            • Sep 2010
            • 551

            #560
            Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

            Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
            first online game post patch was against someone who tried to play press man all game with a bunch of CB who had press ratings in the 70's

            He recieved a torching, and rightfully so.

            Man-2 wasnt unbeatable, but itcertainly was boring, throwing nothing but posts, drags, slants, over and over again, and watching these fools just stay in that one defense all game.
            I'm loving this game now. Thanks EA

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            • buckeye02
              MVP
              • Jul 2009
              • 4152

              #561
              Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

              Originally posted by Playmakers
              That's not exactly true....

              Awareness doesn't boost up every positions overall the same way


              For a QB he gains 1 pt increase in overall for every 3 awareness points added

              For a WR he gains 1 pt overall for every 6-9 awareness points added.

              A QB with 40 awareness gains 1 point overall right away as you increase him to 41 awareness

              But the point is awareness doesn't impact every position the same way....some players can go up 6 awareness points before you see the overall increase.

              You may not have even noticed them boosting up awareness because depending on positions a guy can get a increase up and have it not even effect his overall rating.
              Yeah i know that. The other guy who did the simming said his team LA Monroe had 4 players with 90+ awareness. I saw nothing like that. Alabama had that many players with that high of awareness. But not team like UL Monroe had anything like that.

              Wheres the in-season progression they were talking about. Thats MIA still.
              PSN: buckeye02

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              • TXHusker25
                Banned
                • Jul 2010
                • 252

                #562
                Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                Ok seriously, I am having defenders dive through players trying to tackle them and I don't mean that figuratively, literally, THROUGH their bodies.

                The default pursuit got downright brutal. I can't get pressure bringing 6 vs. a 5 man front, but I see a ton of sacks on 3 man rushes.

                Superman LB's are still there.

                DE's with hour long hang time are still there.

                Psychic DB's are still there except now they don't play the ball, they just run the route, get out of position and then watch as a the WR runs away with the ball.

                Again, this is online lobby play, so theoretically sliders might be able to fix this, but that doesn't really help those of us that don't play offline.

                And forget about running man to man on a running back, no matter where your man lines up, the back will beat him to the edge.
                Last edited by TXHusker25; 09-08-2010, 01:26 AM.

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                • sportyguyfl31
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 4745

                  #563
                  Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                  Originally posted by NINJAK2
                  Is zone D working any better sport? If they neutered man cov and zone D is still a joke like it was pre patch #3(which is possibly why he stayed in man D) that may lead to people getting beat down.

                  Ive been playing a lot of zone D from the beginning..I havent had much of an issue with it.

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                  • smoove7
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 472

                    #564
                    Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                    Ok concentrate:

                    Buy game, love game at first, talk about everything that is broken which makes in unplayable. Complain till get patch, try patch, like patch till further testing.

                    Complain enough and get another patch, broken patch equals a close meltdown. 3rd patch promised so people dont freak out.

                    3RD patch released, meltdown commences. There is no stopping the meltdown. Servers crash, controllers are destroyed. Ea laughs all the way to the bank (even though they paid for this patch). Wash hands of ncaa, rinse and repeat next year.

                    Moral of story: I just want a good game of football when I get home from being at work or school all day(apexbronx thought) and not have to worry about how having to stand on one leg and bark like a chicken so that the ratings, progression and physics line up to get the football experience I am looking for which according to EA is in the game.
                    Last edited by smoove7; 09-08-2010, 01:56 AM.
                    ..."And there's a frequent bug that turns the receivers' route markers into dancing squiggly lines. None of these problems destroy the fun of running a perfect option play, but they do take you out of what should be an immersive experience."....

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                    • novadolla
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 551

                      #565
                      Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                      Originally posted by TXHusker25
                      Ok seriously, I am having defenders dive through players trying to tackle them and I don't mean that figuratively, literally, THROUGH their bodies.

                      The default pursuit got downright brutal. I can't get pressure bringing 6 vs. a 5 man front, but I see a ton of sacks on 3 man rushes.

                      Superman LB's are still there.

                      DE's with hour long hang time are still there.

                      Psychic DB's are still there except now they don't play the ball, they just run the route, get out of position and then watch as a the WR runs away with the ball.

                      Again, this is online lobby play, so theoretically sliders might be able to fix this, but that doesn't really help those of us that don't play offline.

                      And forget about running man to man on a running back, no matter where your man lines up, the back will beat him to the edge.
                      I'm not seeing any of this online. Actually i love the game play, players actually flow to the ball you can still run man and zone now works for me. and i'm playing against top 20 guys so i'm not sure about what you are talking about here.

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                      • TXHusker25
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 252

                        #566
                        Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                        Originally posted by novadolla
                        I'm not seeing any of this online. Actually i love the game play, players actually flow to the ball you can still run man and zone now works for me. and i'm playing against top 20 guys so i'm not sure about what you are talking about here.
                        When I upload these videos in a few minutes, I want you to tell me zone works. Don't get me wrong, it hasn't gotten worse than it was before, but don't tell me it has improved.

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                        • novadolla
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 551

                          #567
                          Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                          Originally posted by TXHusker25
                          When I upload these videos in a few minutes, I want you to tell me zone works. Don't get me wrong, it hasn't gotten worse than it was before, but don't tell me it has improved.
                          It might be your play calling bro, because zones have been good for me. i must admit that hook zones drop back a liitle too far but they come up and make the tackle. But i am actually liking the pass and run defense. Along with everything else.

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                          • haze56
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 199

                            #568
                            Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                            Originally posted by HeebieJeebie
                            GUYS XBOX HAS THE PATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                            it just didnt promt you to download it. try the backwards pumpfake and see that it doesnt work anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                            This should be a bannable offense. I was on NCAA and went to practice mode and it still worked.

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                            • HeebieJeebie
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 7

                              #569
                              Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                              Originally posted by haze56
                              This should be a bannable offense. I was on NCAA and went to practice mode and it still worked.
                              im not kidding. all of a sudden in my online dynasty i started getting no pass rush and man cov seemed to suck and then i tested the backwards pump and it didnt work.

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                              • LambertandHam
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 8008

                                #570
                                Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                                Reading through the thread it seems like a blessing in disguise for us 360 users. The heart of the offline dynasty mode is recruiting, so I still have my fingers crossed
                                Steam

                                PSN: BigGreenZaku

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