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  • AnybodyKilla
    MVP
    • Oct 2002
    • 1001

    #616
    Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

    Originally posted by Bumble14
    I feel your guys pain, I do, and I appreciate the passion. I just am trying to find a middle ground. I think the NCAA guys did a really good job this year on trying to appease everyone.

    I'm sorry that these progression issues have resulted in the game becoming broken for some of you. I'm honestly not trying to tell anyone how to play the game, I just think people need to at least try playing games, and perhaps wait a few days until Patch 3/Tuner Set 3 hits the 360 before rushing to judegment- for all we know this may be an issue isolated to the PS3 right now for some reason.

    Again- let's get a separate thread going to talk about this and keep impressions ONLY on the patch in this thread.
    I like you, you seem reasonable, I just wanna point out that yes this threads for the patch/tuner...75% of the patch/tuner were on player progression and recruits so I dont see how it's not relevant to an impressions thread on patch. But that's just me.

    I have 2 kids, and not alot of time for gaming. This time of the year is setup for NCAA Football for me, been that way even before the kids. I play dynasty only and to have the #1 perk to the mode pretty much not working correctly kinda stinks. Im not hating this game, It actually plays pretty damn well, It's just if I hear someone continue to say its not a big deal one more times its gonna make me explode. You paid 60$ for the game and got what you wanted? Good thats AWESOME, but for me 2 months into it and i still havent gotten what I want out of it? It sucks, Im VERY close to selling this game. Im gonna wait till the 360 patch hits. Maybe it got rejected because of this. Who knows?

    We shall see, Im just very disappointed in this game in that area. Im supposed to build my team up, and yet you never get the feeling because you get worse and worse as a "team"
    Paul Harris...thats all
    #9 Syracuse Orange!! (15-1)(3-0)

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    • speedkills
      MVP
      • Jul 2004
      • 1389

      #617
      Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

      It's 10:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time and still no word on the status of the 360 patch. This is madness!


      Yeah, yeah, this is Sparta .. ok.

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      • novadolla
        Pro
        • Sep 2010
        • 551

        #618
        Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

        Originally posted by AnybodyKilla
        I like you, you seem reasonable, I just wanna point out that yes this threads for the patch/tuner...75% of the patch/tuner were on player progression and recruits so I dont see how it's not relevant to an impressions thread on patch. But that's just me.

        I have 2 kids, and not alot of time for gaming. This time of the year is setup for NCAA Football for me, been that way even before the kids. I play dynasty only and to have the #1 perk to the mode pretty much not working correctly kinda stinks. Im not hating this game, It actually plays pretty damn well, It's just if I hear someone continue to say its not a big deal one more times its gonna make me explode. You paid 60$ for the game and got what you wanted? Good thats AWESOME, but for me 2 months into it and i still havent gotten what I want out of it? It sucks, Im VERY close to selling this game. Im gonna wait till the 360 patch hits. Maybe it got rejected because of this. Who knows?

        We shall see, Im just very disappointed in this game in that area. Im supposed to build my team up, and yet you never get the feeling because you get worse and worse as a "team"

        The game is fine, the progression issue is not a big deal. Every team should not be an A+ across the board like years past. This game is great ENJOY IT!

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        • St. Germain
          Rookie
          • Jul 2008
          • 17

          #619
          Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

          Originally posted by moose1619
          I recruited 2 FB, one a 4 star and 1 a 3 star, guess what the 3 star came in slightly better. Guess what, that happens sometimes. I love it. I also realize that I will have to redshirt a lot of freshman. It takes a real special player to play D1 college ball as a freshman, it doesn't happen a high percentage of the time.
          I love this as well. Hell, in real life, Michigan State had a 2 star RB come in this year who was basically only recruited by MSU and MAC schools. He gained almost 150 yards in his first game and may beat out two sophomore RBs who were both 4 star RBs coming out of high school last year.

          Or take MSU All-American LB Greg Jones for instance. He's an absolute beast in this game and will likely set MSU's career record for tackles in real life. He was a 3 star recruit and his best offers were from MSU and Minnesota. Rivals had him as the #34 LB in the nation in his class. Now he's arguably one of the two or three best LBs in the country. He was first team All-American as a junior and the Big Ten's Defensive Player of the Year. This certainly shouldn't be the norm, but there needs to be some rare diamonds in the rough.
          Last edited by St. Germain; 09-08-2010, 09:32 AM.

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          • Buckeyes_Doc
            In Dalton I Trust
            • Jan 2009
            • 11918

            #620
            Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

            Originally posted by Bumble14
            I feel your guys pain, I do, and I appreciate the passion. I just am trying to find a middle ground. I think the NCAA guys did a really good job this year on trying to appease everyone.

            I'm sorry that these progression issues have resulted in the game becoming broken for some of you. I'm honestly not trying to tell anyone how to play the game, I just think people need to at least try playing games, and perhaps wait a few days until Patch 3/Tuner Set 3 hits the 360 before rushing to judegment- for all we know this may be an issue isolated to the PS3 right now for some reason.

            Again- let's get a separate thread going to talk about this and keep impressions ONLY on the patch in this thread.
            Ok, I understand where you're coming from. It would be easier to read and more organized, since progression has kinda taken over this thread.
            Ohio State - Reds - Bengals - Blackhawks - Bulls

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            • AnybodyKilla
              MVP
              • Oct 2002
              • 1001

              #621
              Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

              Originally posted by novadolla
              The game is fine, the progression issue is not a big deal. Every team should not be an A+ across the board like years past. This game is great ENJOY IT!

              It's not a BIG deal to YOU man, but to some of us its a HUGE thing. Nobody is asking to have A+ across the board. Im also sick of hearing that, Were asking for it to work as intended. Does it make sense to you that You can make a Team go from 1* to 6* prestige and have the team actually get worse..no sense of "Growth".

              I dont mind the players coming in low 60's/high 60's , usually freshmen dont play. But Progression after a red-shirt and things like that actually have to work to balance that effect. Im using Syracuse, there's no way for me to recruit players to keep the talent level on the team around the same. That doesnt make sense to me, Syracuse doesnt have ALOT of talent to begin with, so I improve my prestige and my talent level gets worse? Really?

              This is how I like my game, How it's actually supposed to be intended. Don't hate on it.
              Paul Harris...thats all
              #9 Syracuse Orange!! (15-1)(3-0)

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              • novadolla
                Pro
                • Sep 2010
                • 551

                #622
                Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                Originally posted by AnybodyKilla
                It's not a BIG deal to YOU man, but to some of us its a HUGE thing. Nobody is asking to have A+ across the board. Im also sick of hearing that, Were asking for it to work as intended. Does it make sense to you that You can make a Team go from 1* to 6* prestige and have the team actually get worse..no sense of "Growth".

                I dont mind the players coming in low 60's/high 60's , usually freshmen dont play. But Progression after a red-shirt and things like that actually have to work to balance that effect. Im using Syracuse, there's no way for me to recruit players to keep the talent level on the team around the same. That doesnt make sense to me, Syracuse doesnt have ALOT of talent to begin with, so I improve my prestige and my talent level gets worse? Really?

                This is how I like my game, How it's actually supposed to be intended. Don't hate on it.
                The game is fine your team is probably getting worst because of your recruiting skills. Those diamond in the rough 3 star recruits still perform on the field. Everyone wont be a 90 overall. Play the game you guys and stop worrying about NUMBERS!

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                • youALREADYknow
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 3635

                  #623
                  Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                  Originally posted by novadolla
                  Play the game you guys and stop worrying about NUMBERS!
                  Are you serious right now? If that were the case, then we should only have Play Now mode... let's just enjoy the game.

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                  • isd71
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 161

                    #624
                    Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                    I know what you mean man. Until all the original players leave which is way down the road (5 seasons) if you have a bad team/older team its pretty hard. In my dynasty (link in sig) Boise State was in the top three for two years and went from a 5* to 6* after year one but has fallen off the cliff because they have no original players left in year 3+. They have some really good recruits but I'm guessing they are not winning because of their awr/ovr compared to all the redshirt senior original players left on other teams rosters.

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                    • speedkills
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 1389

                      #625
                      Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                      I'm week 6 into the first year of my Boise State dynasty. It looks like 90% of my recruiting class are going to 4 stars and the rest 3 stars. Should I wait for patch #3 and restart my dynasty or should I continue on knowing that next year's recruits will be more highly rated?

                      I'm at a crossroads here.

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                      • drkfire07
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 36

                        #626
                        Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                        Originally posted by novadolla
                        The game is fine your team is probably getting worst because of your recruiting skills. Those diamond in the rough 3 star recruits still perform on the field. Everyone wont be a 90 overall. Play the game you guys and stop worrying about NUMBERS!
                        The problem is without those NUMBERS simulation DOES NOT WORK. It may be just fine in gameplay but if I just wanted to do gameplay I wouldn't play dynasty and just be playing play now or online.

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                        • rudyjuly2
                          Cade Cunningham
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 14816

                          #627
                          Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                          I started a gameplay only impressions thread so post there if you want: http://www.osatwork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=441722

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                          • astronut
                            Rookie
                            • May 2004
                            • 440

                            #628
                            Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                            Originally posted by Bumble14
                            I feel your guys pain, I do, and I appreciate the passion. I just am trying to find a middle ground. I think the NCAA guys did a really good job this year on trying to appease everyone.

                            I'm sorry that these progression issues have resulted in the game becoming broken for some of you. I'm honestly not trying to tell anyone how to play the game, I just think people need to at least try playing games, and perhaps wait a few days until Patch 3/Tuner Set 3 hits the 360 before rushing to judegment- for all we know this may be an issue isolated to the PS3 right now for some reason.

                            Again- let's get a separate thread going to talk about this and keep impressions ONLY on the patch in this thread.
                            I agree I have been waiting for the cpu to be able to be able to run the option and last night air force ran it and ran it well. To me by fixing the cpu run game the game fills more fun because I don't know what cpu is gonna do next cause I cant always stop option rus for -2 yards. the only thing I'm mixed on is I like how zone d is more effective but they loosened up man coverage a little to much maybe lower qb acc and higher pass def slider will help. anyway I'm glad to get the patch

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                            • AnybodyKilla
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 1001

                              #629
                              Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                              Originally posted by drkfire07
                              The problem is without those NUMBERS simulation DOES NOT WORK. It may be just fine in gameplay but if I just wanted to do gameplay I wouldn't play dynasty and just be playing play now or online.
                              Thank you.
                              Paul Harris...thats all
                              #9 Syracuse Orange!! (15-1)(3-0)

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                              • sportyguyfl31
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 4745

                                #630
                                Re: NCAA Football 11 Patch #3 and Live Tuning Pack 3 Available, Impressions Here (PS3

                                Originally posted by imalive1459
                                In your opinion, both LB's in that video had poor technique which caused them to run in the wrong direction(one the opposite direction of his assignment and the other moving outside while his man was in pass protection)? Sounds like this should be an issue with play recognition rather than man coverage skills. I agree with you that man coverage also deals with technique, but that lack of technique wouldn't amount to running the wrong direction, IMO.

                                If the problem is how the game is translating poor man coverage, thats a different debate.

                                If this is just happening to the defenders who have weak man coverage ratings (based on what I have seen so far, I suspect this is the case), then we are dealing with a animation issue...as opposed to man defense being flawed in general..

                                From what I have seen so far, the people who are able to play off man coverage and/or press coverage, are doing it. Those who cannot, are getting beat..which is how it should be.

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