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  • OkieTC
    Rookie
    • Aug 2008
    • 89

    #1

    WTF!! Thought this was fixed?

    Was playing OU(me) vs. OSU in my dynasty. Nearly had the record for most receptions in a game when my WR is injured. It says he will be back soon. Of course, he never comes back and I can't sub him back in. He doesn't appear in the injury list. I guess he just disappeared?? Also, the cpu throws the stud QB I was redshirting in at WR. WTF?? It never asked if I wanted to pull his redshirt. I ended up quiting the game in the 4th quarter. Hated to waste a year of my QB for 1 play @ WR. When I came back later to replay game, my redshirt QB had lost his redshirt status! DUMB!!!!
  • jello1717
    All Star
    • Feb 2006
    • 5653

    #2
    Re: WTF!! Thought this was fixed?
    • Your WR never came back because his fatigue level was below your "sub back in" auto sub setting for your WRs.
    • To prevent your QB from being subbed in @ WR, adjust your depth chart. Assuming that he's not in your WR 6 deep depth chart, then the reason he was subbed in was because your formation had more WRs in it than you had left on your 6-deep list due to either fatigue or injuries. If you see your QB in your formation @ WR from the play call list, then pause it and edit your depth chart to put some WRs that aren't in your 6-deep to replace the guys who are injured/tired.
    • Your QB will not lose his redshirt just because you put him in the game. The only way that he won't redshirt is if he gets any stats during the year. If he just ran routes but never caught a pass, pancaked anyone, made a tackle, etc, etc, then he will still redshirt.
    Last edited by jello1717; 09-10-2010, 04:57 PM. Reason: eye r teh gud spellar
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    College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
    College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
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    • OkieTC
      Rookie
      • Aug 2008
      • 89

      #3
      Re: WTF!! Thought this was fixed?

      I hope you are right. It does not list him as a reshirt anymore. I checked and he doesn't have any stats though. If I had noticed him in the play, I would have called TO and yanked him. Not used to seeing his number, so I didn't notice him.

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      • dalecooper
        Rookie
        • Jun 2003
        • 490

        #4
        Re: WTF!! Thought this was fixed?

        Originally posted by jello1717
        [*]Your WR never came back because his fatigue level was below your "sub back in" auto sub setting for your WRs.
        I don't think this is true. It seems like a reasonable theory but I've had this happen to me 4-5 times and the guy never comes back in. I've had a few different star players sit out the entire 4th quarter. They never came back in, even after sitting on the bench for drive after drive and not even when I lowered my sub in number. I don't know exactly what the logic is, but there's some kind of bug with this.

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        • jello1717
          All Star
          • Feb 2006
          • 5653

          #5
          Re: WTF!! Thought this was fixed?

          Originally posted by dalecooper
          I don't think this is true. It seems like a reasonable theory but I've had this happen to me 4-5 times and the guy never comes back in. I've had a few different star players sit out the entire 4th quarter. They never came back in, even after sitting on the bench for drive after drive and not even when I lowered my sub in number. I don't know exactly what the logic is, but there's some kind of bug with this.
          The thing is that players get fatigued as they run plays, but also as the game goes on (which is realistic IMO). Because of that, guys won't get back up to 100% by the end of the game, even after sitting out for a while.

          IE. a guy's fatigue may go like this for a HB throughout the game with your settings @ 80/90:
          100
          95
          90
          85
          80 (gets subbed out)
          85
          90 (comes back in)
          85
          defense comes out so he rests
          100
          90
          80
          85
          98
          88
          78
          87
          97
          etc
          starting the 4th quarter, the max he might get back to could be 89 as he's worn out from playing the whole game. If this 89 is lower than your "sub back in" setting (90 in this case) he'll never come back in because the only way to get back to 100% is to get to the next game.
          Favorite Teams:
          College #1: Michigan Wolverines
          College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
          College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
          NHL: Detroit Redwings

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          • Goose26
            Rookie
            • Mar 2009
            • 296

            #6
            Re: WTF!! Thought this was fixed?

            Your QB will lose his redshirt status once he plays a snap. He does not need to record a stat.

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            • BoomerSooner420
              Rookie
              • Aug 2005
              • 67

              #7
              Re: WTF!! Thought this was fixed?

              Originally posted by Goose26
              Your QB will lose his redshirt status once he plays a snap. He does not need to record a stat.
              QFT

              I usually go straight to the injury list and depth chart as soon as I see an injury. Not because it can burn your redshirts, but because i don't want a DT coming in as a 5th WR or something. It's a dumb problem to have, but just take the extra minute to manage your roster when a starter gets hurt and it'll be fine.

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              • JWO35
                Rookie
                • May 2009
                • 147

                #8
                Re: WTF!! Thought this was fixed?

                Originally posted by Goose26
                Your QB will lose his redshirt status once he plays a snap. He does not need to record a stat.
                True

                Normally if you try to sub in a Redshirt they will warn you he will no longer be a RS if you put him in(regardless of what he does on the field)

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                • OkieTC
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 89

                  #9
                  Re: WTF!! Thought this was fixed?

                  The bad thing is that I quit the game to avoid him losing his redshirt. Then when I reloaded my dynasty, it shows his redshirt gone, even though technically, he never played a down because I quit that game without saving.

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                  • Solidice
                    Guns Up!
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 9825

                    #10
                    Re: WTF!! Thought this was fixed?

                    Originally posted by Goose26
                    Your QB will lose his redshirt status once he plays a snap. He does not need to record a stat.
                    but at the end of the year, if a player has not been red shirted in his career and recorded no stats, they will be automatically red shirted.

                    this is how players on CPU controlled teams get red shirted.

                    unless this has changed from NCAA 10 to NCAA 11.
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                    • jello1717
                      All Star
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 5653

                      #11
                      Re: WTF!! Thought this was fixed?

                      Originally posted by Solidice
                      but at the end of the year, if a player has not been red shirted in his career and recorded no stats, they will be automatically red shirted.

                      this is how players on CPU controlled teams get red shirted.

                      unless this has changed from NCAA 10 to NCAA 11.
                      What he said. As I stated earlier (and have verified many times) if a player does not get any stats, he will get a redshirt.

                      IE. If you have a SR kicker and a true FR punter, you might want to redshirt the punter and have your kicker kick and punt. In the preseason, you are not allowed to redshirt your punter because he's your only one. If you bury him on the depth chart, however, and he gets no stats, then at the beginning of the next season he will be a FR(RS).

                      In the OP's example, if his QB never gets any stats, he will be redshirted.
                      Favorite Teams:
                      College #1: Michigan Wolverines
                      College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
                      College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
                      NHL: Detroit Redwings

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                      • OkieTC
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 89

                        #12
                        Re: WTF!! Thought this was fixed?

                        Awesome! Thanks for the info. I will bury my QB on the depth chart and let the cpu redshirt him for me.

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