diving poke checks too effective

[ManiacMatt1782]

Countless breakaways and other opportunities are broken up by divers. it seems the stick is drawn right to the puck when dives are attempted. this should be a desperation move that draws a penalty most of the time, not effective defense. anyway to tone down the accuracy of this unrealistic defense, and make it draw more penalties instead of breaking up scoring chances.

edit could a mod please change topic titlee to say poke checks, i dont even know how i screwed that up.

[King10Sooted]

Re: diving poke checks too effective

Maybe it is just me, but I seem to draw a penalty more times than hit the puck.

[CS10029]

Re: diving poke checks too effective

The pass block is too effective too, I see guys online using it instead of poke check, and that is stupid.

[ManiacMatt1782]

Re: diving poke checks too effective

Another year, same problem.

[Ceteris Paribus]

Another year, more complaints about stuff that are not problems. No one wants to learn counters to strategies, they want EA to fix the game so that how they play is the optimal way.

The result last year was EA c hanging the game every week based on the squeakiest wheels. I'd rather see fewer changes, and for those to be basedon data EA collects from actual gameplay on their servers. I don't look forward to pke checks changing every week based on whether forwards or defensemen cry the loudest.

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[ManiacMatt1782]

Re: diving poke checks too effective

You don't feel it is entirely too easy to save yourself after you got beat with a diving poke? I don't know what game you are playing. All I want is the stick to be more wild and unpredictable when they dive so its basically a huge risk of a penalty to attempt such a desperation move. It should be a trip around 75% of the time. Also if you out wait them, the should not be and to steal a pass in the middle of getting back to their feet. Deflecting it with the body is one thing, gaining possesion should NEVER happen.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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The last two years was insanely easy to poke check and stuff. This year the pokes seem to rarely work, and diving and poking draws penalties far more often than in the past.

[FN_JonnyBoy]

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I love doing diving poke checks.

[jyoung]

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Definitely way too effective from behind on breakaways.

The animation just covers way too much ground, and there aren't enough tripping penalties called.

I mean, you rarely, if ever, see anyone use this move successfully in a real hockey game, yet it happens at least three or four times per game online.

Just another one of those moves that makes NHL 12 feel like an arcade hockey game.

[Fiddy]

Re: diving poke checks too effective

yup, the diving poke check works better than actually skating back on defense. the glide goes much faster than the player, its hilarious.

I mean, you rarely, if ever, see anyone use this move successfully in a real hockey game, yet it happens at least three or four times per game online.

Just another one of those moves that makes NHL 12 feel like an arcade hockey game.

again, ea promotes this as a realistic nhl game, but yet the above still remains in the game. they patched it out of nhl 11, and yet found its way back in this year. SMH..

also, that move doesnt make the game feel like an arcade game, it is an arcade game with simulation elements tossed in.

Another year, more complaints about stuff that are not problems. No one wants to learn counters to strategies, they want EA to fix the game so that how they play is the optimal way.

so diving and going faster than the guy with the puck is acceptable? how many times in an actual nhl game have you seen a player behind a guy on a breakaway, just dive and go faster than the player ahead of him?

[Rogie Vachon]

Re: diving poke checks too effective

Another year, more complaints about stuff that are not problems. No one wants to learn counters to strategies, they want EA to fix the game so that how they play is the optimal way.

The result last year was EA c hanging the game every week based on the squeakiest wheels. I'd rather see fewer changes, and for those to be basedon data EA collects from actual gameplay on their servers. I don't look forward to pke checks changing every week based on whether forwards or defensemen cry the loudest.

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Exactly.

The only tuner I want to see,or patch,includes a toggle option using the X button,for human controlled goalies to be able to use the paddle down near perfectly like last year with NHL11`s controls scheme,....and NHL12`s control scheme...so you can swith between using the paddle down technique stuff properly,or the VH in a much more realistic manner.
I can`t imagine how this wouldn`t be possible....but it would allow human goalies to at least make the most basic of crease movements that the cpu can do.
The way it is now,IMO,they took that technique away from us,......which is just wrong....we need it as much or more than the VH technique.

The way it is right now for scoring,...they don't need to take important stuff from the goalies to get goals,.....take away the cheese garbage that comes from removing our ability to do something,or that doesn`t need to be there to get scoring.
Personally the way the goalies are getting beat,in a realistic manner IMO,.......I don`t see why the cheese and exploitable stuff is left in there,...it just isn`t "necessary" any more.

If you try and play anything remotely close to good hockey...then you should love what this game.Once the blemishes are buffed out......

I say this,....if they can get the first game on the next consoles coming out of the box with as good a game play as this,but with all the bells and whistles the next gen potentially will give........then I can`t wait for the next generation

[jonapaloma]

Re: diving poke checks too effective

My opinion is also that its to easy to just dive infront of a player and cause the player to lose control over the puck. And they've removed the fix from last years patch where you couldn't slide as long of a distance before you stop sliding. Its sad really by EAs part.

[ManiacMatt1782]

Re: diving poke checks too effective

The new one is the diving poke in the offensive zone to keep the breakout along the boards from happening, and this should be an instant dreaming neck injury. Diving head first into the boards. And some people in this thread think this is ok, or even normal?

[Ceteris Paribus]

Re: diving poke checks too effective

The new one is the diving poke in the offensive zone to keep the breakout along the boards from happening, and this should be an instant dreaming neck injury. Diving head first into the boards. And some people in this thread think this is ok, or even normal?

Some folks don't try to pass their time by plying with pubtards. When I play with friends online, I don't have to worry about guys acting like idiots.

I don't think the diving poke check is all that bad. If EA just turns up the penalties, it won't be that bad. I gave up a goal on a penalty shot for a diving poke check gone bad.

But even if this gets fixed to you specifications, you will be here the following week whining about something else that gamers do that breaks the immersion of the game.

You sig is super appropriate because it links to a page that doesn't exist. Kind of like online gaming without cheese.

[nancek00]

Re: diving poke checks too effective

I agree they are FRUSTRATING, but it's not too bad in my opinion. We get a lot of power plays because of divers. I think the balance is okay myself, but just my experience.