NBA 2K11 Demo Available Now, Impressions and Discussion Here (360,PS3)

[erickonasis]

Re: NBA 2K11 Demo Available Now, Impressions and Discussion Here (360,PS3)

I think all demos should include a mode with you alone in the gym to work on moves and stuff...

Here is what you do. Work on the sizeups first. Come down on the right side of the floor with the ball in your right hand and only work on holding left trigger and pushing left stick to the right. Then work or breaking out of that at different times... So break out early and go left , early go rignt. then medium and then let it finish....

Then do the same thing but add a cross after you break out by holding left trigger and moving the left stick back to the left after you break out to the right. Build step by step .

By watching the sizeups you get a feel for the rhythm and when is the best time to break out. If you play with that rhythm all the moves will flow seemless

ive done exactly this infact i only play the demo now to try to get consistent with the moves but its not always responsive IMO...not saying i havent pulled it off tho

[Da_Czar]

Re: NBA 2K11 Demo Available Now, Impressions and Discussion Here (360,PS3)

this is my main gripe so far...ive done everything in that video the guy has shown but it seems to me its not consistant and what i mean by that is i could practice a move before i even get near a defender and it still doesnt always do it

I bet the camera relative moves are doing you in. In the final I think they have an absolute options. Just pick one move and try it as your bringing the ball up the floor. Start with a crossover left trigger left stick to opposite hand. If he is not doing it your probably not moving from camera relative left to right. look at your hand to verify. Then only after you have that down pick one other move and then when you have that down link them together.

[LeBronistheKing]

Re: NBA 2K11 Demo Available Now, Impressions and Discussion Here (360,PS3)

The movement in this game is stellar absolutely the most realistic I have ever seen in a basketball game. The way momentum actually matters in so many ways in this game is just a thing of beauty and Czar is absolutely right in his assessment. As a basketball fanatic, I find the fact that you can actually create space from your defender by realistically getting them off balance ie leaning one way and using their momentum against them is a far more true to life represenatation of the cat and mouse between the ball handler and the defender than anything that has been presented to date from both games. When you finally "achieve isomotion" what this game has to offer is just unprecedented. As a lifelong Michael Jordan fan I was already on bored when I found out he was the cover athlete. But after getting my hands on just a bare bones demo I am absolutely salivating at the thought of the most accurate Jordan playing experience ever in a video game pull up Js, the signature MJ footwork, (which is evident in the "Kobe doing work video" posted earlier) the off ball working off screens to get a good look it's overwhelming. And that's not even speaking about the improved physics, or all new passing system including animations for having to catch bad passes. Or the improved defense this is just Amazing.

[HueyFreeman3000]

NBA2K11 FAQS and IMPRESSIONS:

1) The framerate, graphical detail, and animation transitions are the smoothest I have EVER seen in a sports video game. Absolutely sensational.

2) The new controls are spot on--after you work to figure out the timing and usage maneuvers. HINT: It is very sensitive using L2 trigger dribbling controls. Hammering away left and right and half-circles will get you nowhere. You will look jagged and sluggish. IF, you master timing and execution and move the Lstick deliberately you will get better results.

3) Shooting jumpers off the dribble using the shot stick is absolutely incredible this year. I have NEVER liked using Kobe Bryant in 2K (particularly 2k9 and 2k10..and not because Lebron James is my favorite player THOUGH i know Kobe is better-for now). His jumper didn't tickle the twine like it should and doing his signature moves didn't flow well. NOW?!?!? OH MY GOD. The Black Mamba is finally the MONSTER he should be. And will be and absolute nightmare to defend.

4) The animations are sensational. Wondrous to behold. Paul Pierce's jumpshot (PHOTOREALISTIC), Rando's one-handed ball fake, KG's shimmy pull up mid and PAU GASOL'S BIG ARSE HEAD! lol ...are all some of the most beautiful things I have ever seen in a game. Everytime I saw these things or variations from different players I had a BIG SMILE on my face.

5) People saying it has an NBA LIVE feel to it need to realize the truth here: Mike Wang was the lead designer for 2KSports for years. He left 2k last year and went to EA Sports and helped them turn NBA Live from completely abysmal to oustandingly mediocre but fun. Now he's back at 2kSports were he "belongs". That's a quote from him. His heart is always with 2k. His own words. So anything you think feels like Live actually feels like Mike Wang because Live didn't feel that way before he got there last year. And won't feel that way ever again. Bet on it.

6) THE PRESENTATION IS AMAZING!!! This is only the demo and player introduction pics on the load screen are fantastic!!! The shot of the arena? Fabulous. The "galaxy stars" backgrounds on menus, photos, statlines, and in game subs are simply beautiful. The sound is spot on. AND THEY HAVE A HALFTIME SHOW IN THE FULL GAME.

7) We haven't even fell in love with the Jordan modes yet. OR Played with King James and Dewayne Wade in Miami. Or checked out the new robust My Player and signed endorsement deals.

8) Can you imagine how incredible the full game is going to be? Just.....WOW! lol It's going to be absurd.

9) NBA2K11 will be the best basketball videogame ever made. MARK MY WORDS. Every b-ball game will be judged on this bar 2K has just set. Bravo 2K Sports! Bravo! In the words of Jay-Z: "Clap for 'em, clap for 'em"....

[Rasco11]

Re: NBA 2K11 Demo Available Now, Impressions and Discussion Here (360,PS3)

I bet the camera relative moves are doing you in. In the final I think they have an absolute options. Just pick one move and try it as your bringing the ball up the floor. Start with a crossover left trigger left stick to opposite hand. If he is not doing it your probably not moving from camera relative left to right. look at your hand to verify. Then only after you have that down pick one other move and then when you have that down link them together.

I think "camera relative" explains a lot of my problems. That and I'm new to it on PS3 controller. Many times playing defense I would push R-stick to flash a passing lane and my defender would go in the "take a charge" stance. So user error fully applies, it's just frustrating to not see some of the results you intend translate to on-screen.

[Eman5805]

Re: NBA 2K11 Demo Available Now, Impressions and Discussion Here (360,PS3)

Where'd you see that at? It says of August 15th.

Right when you start the game and before they show the screen with all the NBA team logos.

Says plain as day "All NBA photos and rosters are accurate as of July 14, 2010".

Maybe it's different in the Xbox version or something, but that's what I saw.

[fatleg3]

Re: NBA 2K11 Demo Available Now, Impressions and Discussion Here (360,PS3)

Then go cop the other game and we'll hit you up later..DUeces

thanks for the good advice. im glad you can contribute to my post

I think all demos should include a mode with you alone in the gym to work on moves and stuff...

Here is what you do. Work on the sizeups first. Come down on the right side of the floor with the ball in your right hand and only work on holding left trigger and pushing left stick to the right. Then work or breaking out of that at different times... So break out early and go left , early go rignt. then medium and then let it finish....

Then do the same thing but add a cross after you break out by holding left trigger and moving the left stick back to the left after you break out to the right. Build step by step .

By watching the sizeups you get a feel for the rhythm and when is the best time to break out. If you play with that rhythm all the moves will flow seemless

I bet the camera relative moves are doing you in. In the final I think they have an absolute options. Just pick one move and try it as your bringing the ball up the floor. Start with a crossover left trigger left stick to opposite hand. If he is not doing it your probably not moving from camera relative left to right. look at your hand to verify. Then only after you have that down pick one other move and then when you have that down link them together.

thanks for the advice. i will definitely start doing this.

Im glad you gave a starting point on how to get it down cause just playing game after game was not going to help me get it any better. I would still do the same thing.

I also believe camera relative moves are doing me in also. when i can pull of something i might remember what i did with the controls but the sticks wont be moved to the same place to do that move again if you are in a different spot. If i was able to switch to absolute it will make it much easier for me because i can move the sticks the same way and remember what i do each time

[Dawgthem]

Re: NBA 2K11 Demo Available Now, Impressions and Discussion Here (360,PS3)

thanks for the good advice. im glad you can contribute to my post


thanks for the advice. i will definitely start doing this.

Im glad you gave a starting point on how to get it down cause just playing game after game was not going to help me get it any better. I would still do the same thing.

I also believe camera relative moves are doing me in also. when i can pull of something i might remember what i did with the controls but the sticks wont be moved to the same place to do that move again if you are in a different spot. If i was able to switch to absolute it will make it much easier for me because i can move the sticks and remember what i do each time

NOt being mean i'm just saying its obvious what your leaning toward if your playing game after game and not getting it because you don't want to put in work to learn some controls. I mean ELite's seem better haven't seen any video released on how to execeute crossovers just knock the sticks around and it happens. ITs simpler and getting to the hole seems easier seems like the game for you. Not much hardwork

[fatleg3]

Re: NBA 2K11 Demo Available Now, Impressions and Discussion Here (360,PS3)

NOt being mean i'm just saying its obvious what your leaning toward if your playing game after game and not getting it because you don't want to put in work to learn some controls. I mean ELite's seem better haven't seen any video released on how to execeute crossovers just knock the sticks around and it happens. ITs simpler and getting to the hole seems easier seems like the game for you. Not much hardwork

if i didnt want to put in work i would have gave up. I was ready to but after i thought about it im not because besides that this is a pretty good game. Sure other things need work also but what games dosent

All 2k basketball games have been like this to me but it has not stopped me from playing them. its not a deal breaker for me but its frustrating to learn but that dont mean the game is not playable

Im not going to make a full decision until i play elite because if elite is horrible im getting 2k. So it would be in my best interest to keep trying to get the controls. Im not going to get into what im leaning to cause this is about the 2k demo but im giving both a fair shot

[erickonasis]

Re: NBA 2K11 Demo Available Now, Impressions and Discussion Here (360,PS3)

I bet the camera relative moves are doing you in. In the final I think they have an absolute options. Just pick one move and try it as your bringing the ball up the floor. Start with a crossover left trigger left stick to opposite hand. If he is not doing it your probably not moving from camera relative left to right. look at your hand to verify. Then only after you have that down pick one other move and then when you have that down link them together.

Thanks Czar...i can pull them off and have done all the moves basically not just consistently...man i miss 2k9 when you didnt have to use LT. Isomotion was smooth as hell in that version. i mainly need to work on breaking out of the moves ...sometimes when i do the n between the legs stand up move with Kobe its hard to tell which way to break out of the animation. Thanks again...Cant wait till this drops!

[Dawgthem]

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if i didnt want to put in work i would have gave up. I was ready to but after i thought about it im not because besides that this is a pretty good game. Sure other things need work also but what games dosent

All 2k basketball games have been like this to me but it has not stopped me from playing them. its not a deal breaker for me but its frustrating to learn but that dont mean the game is not playable

Im not going to make a full decision until i play elite because if elite is horrible im getting 2k. So it would be in my best interest to keep trying to get the controls. Im not going to get into what im leaning to cause this is about the 2k demo but im giving both a fair shot

Well its like this imagine your playing basketball in real life, "If you ever have" when your in iso your dancing with your opponent getting to jump to one direction so you can break loose in the other. That simple its pretty easy for people who've played basketball before like Czar and others . Also you don't have to cross people all day to score you can literally score by just rotating the ball to the right person and using screens and picks

[deetoman]

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What makes most of yall complaining about learning how to use the new controls think that Elites controls are going to be easier? Since everything is about physics & control with them you still have to learn the dribble moves and the shots too.

[erickonasis]

Re: NBA 2K11 Demo Available Now, Impressions and Discussion Here (360,PS3)

Well its like this imagine your playing basketball in real life, "If you ever have" when your in iso your dancing with your opponent getting to jump to one direction so you can break loose in the other. That simple its pretty easy for people who've played basketball before like Czar and others . Also you don't have to cross people all day to score you can literally score by just rotating the ball to the right person and using screens and picks

Ive played real basketball all my life probably longer than you've been living. Ive pulled off every move shown thats not the problem the problem is consistency

[Dawgthem]

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Anybody else notice how the camera flies up and down on what you do, locking ont o you and players feels just like real tv if i'm not playing i just caught Ray ray with a pump fake and cut to the whole thinking i was going to dunk in my 2k10 ways and Kg and B davis said hel naw and swatted my jont throwing me on the floor

[Pared]

Re: NBA 2K11 Demo Available Now, Impressions and Discussion Here (360,PS3)

Guys, don't start discussing Elite here.

you got it right on the head

but my problem is i still cant do a lot of things with the ball. I dont jam the stick in one direction, i dont lay on the turbo, and i only try and do moves to create separation or beat someone of the dribble. I dont try and and1 may way around the defender, or use 3 or 4 different types of isomoves

I gave up on it but people said it takes time so im still trying to get it down but i just cant get it. the more and more i try the more and more i run around the court, or do just a simple left to right crossover, or do a sizeup when i didnt intend to

maybe i need a practice mode with no d in front of me to get it right first, or an absolute relative control scheme

I think i said it in another post on here but what gets me by a defender or creates separation is only because its on pro diff and kobe blows past how ever is guarding him

i know its not about doing this and that with the ball but once again i cant do nothing but a simple left to right or right to left crossover on a consent basis. while that works sometimes i get tired of doing that and want to do something else

The problem is there is nowhere you can see the controls listed.

People don't know the Iso-motion controls and that contributes to ALOT. LOT LOT LOT.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...run-plays.html

Go there, read up, and experiment. It's tough to do in a 5v5 game situation, but try your best and you'll get it.