NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

[Behindshadows]

Re: New blog: Defensive Blog

I think the thing you need to realize is that most of the people who are giving this "vogue criticism" are people that BOUGHT nba live 10. People that spent their hard earned money on last years bball game from ea sports. People enjoyed the heck out of nba live 10 and expected ea to continue to improve upon the solid foundation they'd built. But guess what? EA decided " let's start all over again even though our customers never asked for it!" This is where most of the criticism is coming from. It wouldn't be vouge to criticize nba elite if ea didn't give us a reason to.

As far as the devs go, i agree that they should be respected more for taking the time out of their day to converse with their potential customers.
There's no doubt about that.

^^^^This!!! Nail on the coffin....

[donkey33]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

Broken record much? I agree with the message but I'm sure this new dev team have got that message.

OS used to be a cool place back in the day and now I hardly want to read some of the dribble that is posted.

Props to ReAnim and others for still coming here to post whilst the masses wait as I could easily understand if they didn't. The hype is obviously here otherwise you wouldn't have so many crying for the release of a demo and if the other EA demo's are anything to go buy, it should be worth the wait as they are a full demo experience. Assume the Elite demo will be the same.

People need to chill. Stop regurgitating the same thing over and over. Constructive critism is a way to get a good message across and no one should be able to do that until the demo drops. I'd say it does more harm to devs visiting this site and communicating with OS than the other way around. I'm just as big a critic of EA. Those who know me will know that. Less info doesn't mean this is 07 all over again. There's some good conversation going on but most threads derail into the same thing. Ugh.

Bring on the demo. I'm more than happy to wait until it's ready. It's unlikely I'll be purchasing this year due to issues like injuries and this being the first year, etc, but still looking forward to waiting and testing the demo out.

[btrapp]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

Broken record much? I agree with the message but I'm sure this new dev team have got that message.

OS used to be a cool place back in the day and now I hardly want to read some of the dribble that is posted.

Props to ReAnim and others for still coming here to post whilst the masses wait as I could easily understand if they didn't. The hype is obviously here otherwise you wouldn't have so many crying for the release of a demo and if the other EA demo's are anything to go buy, it should be worth the wait as they are a full demo experience. Assume the Elite demo will be the same.

People need to chill. Stop regurgitating the same thing over and over. Constructive critism is a way to get a good message across and no one should be able to do that until the demo drops. I'd say it does more harm to devs visiting this site and communicating with OS than the other way around. I'm just as big a critic of EA. Those who know me will know that. Less info doesn't mean this is 07 all over again. There's some good conversation going on but most threads derail into the same thing. Ugh.

Bring on the demo. I'm more than happy to wait until it's ready. It's unlikely I'll be purchasing this year due to issues like injuries and this being the first year, etc, but still looking forward to waiting and testing the demo out.

The reason why people are saying the same things is because people keep asking the same questions as to why folks are frustrated with what ea has done. My post wasn't directed toward the devs. It was directed toward the person i quoted. Also, you don't need to play a game to criticize things like graphics, animations, and commentary which is what most people are complaining about.

[pdawg17]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

Broken record much? I agree with the message but I'm sure this new dev team have got that message.

OS used to be a cool place back in the day and now I hardly want to read some of the dribble that is posted.

Props to ReAnim and others for still coming here to post whilst the masses wait as I could easily understand if they didn't. The hype is obviously here otherwise you wouldn't have so many crying for the release of a demo and if the other EA demo's are anything to go buy, it should be worth the wait as they are a full demo experience. Assume the Elite demo will be the same.

People need to chill. Stop regurgitating the same thing over and over. Constructive critism is a way to get a good message across and no one should be able to do that until the demo drops. I'd say it does more harm to devs visiting this site and communicating with OS than the other way around. I'm just as big a critic of EA. Those who know me will know that. Less info doesn't mean this is 07 all over again. There's some good conversation going on but most threads derail into the same thing. Ugh.

Bring on the demo. I'm more than happy to wait until it's ready. It's unlikely I'll be purchasing this year due to issues like injuries and this being the first year, etc, but still looking forward to waiting and testing the demo out.

+1

And - why do people keep saying EA is "starting all over again"? Yes they made some changes (obviously) but this is not starting over...

[Tha_Kid]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

Great post, donkey. Pretty much sums up how I feel about this forum lately.

[yungflo]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

at least it wasn't about offensive controls. Props on the blog. I hated how they kept throwing offensive controls in our face, "feel the controls, feel the controls, FEEL THE FREAKIN' CONTROLS"

Hoepfully, some defensive stops videos can be released.

[Super Glock]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

Broken record much? I agree with the message but I'm sure this new dev team have got that message.

OS used to be a cool place back in the day and now I hardly want to read some of the dribble that is posted.

Props to ReAnim and others for still coming here to post whilst the masses wait as I could easily understand if they didn't. The hype is obviously here otherwise you wouldn't have so many crying for the release of a demo and if the other EA demo's are anything to go buy, it should be worth the wait as they are a full demo experience. Assume the Elite demo will be the same.

People need to chill. Stop regurgitating the same thing over and over. Constructive critism is a way to get a good message across and no one should be able to do that until the demo drops. I'd say it does more harm to devs visiting this site and communicating with OS than the other way around. I'm just as big a critic of EA. Those who know me will know that. Less info doesn't mean this is 07 all over again. There's some good conversation going on but most threads derail into the same thing. Ugh.

Bring on the demo. I'm more than happy to wait until it's ready. It's unlikely I'll be purchasing this year due to issues like injuries and this being the first year, etc, but still looking forward to waiting and testing the demo out.

Amen brother

[NS HeLLaDOPe]

I understand where ReAnimator is coming from. However Im thinking maybe EA shouldve took 2ks route and released an "early build" waterdown teaser demo with fluid gameplay becuz it makes the consumer think "even tho the demo is waterdown its still a GOOD demo" now u cant wait to purchase the real copy becuz u kno its gone be "waaaay better" vs trying to release a "high quality" demo thats closer to the "final build"....The reason i say this is becuz when EA releases this "high quality" demo and "If" its not what fans expected, their unhappy with it EA is going to be losing alot of money becuz for a consumer/fan of the franchise what is there to look foward to (remember the demo is REAL close to the final build) and i kno fans aren't goin to be spending $60 to play an updated version of NBA JAMS u feel meh. So EA is really putting the pressure on themselves, they "GOTS TO" hit a homerun with this demo becuz fans are getting restless!!!!!

[Blak_Baki_Hanma]

I appreciate Re and Steps staying involved...
BUT...
Last night (9-16-2010) during the final game of the WNBA Finals there was an NBA Elite commercial... and it had ABSOLUTELY NO GAME FOOTAGE WHATSOEVER... NONE... NO IN-GAME... NO CUTAWAYS... NOT EVEN ANY "FAKE" RENDERING.

THEY DID NOT SHOW THEIR PRODUCT DURING THE ADVERTISEMENT.

How should the consumer feel about EA's confidence in their own product when all they show is old reels of nba footage and NOTHING from the game being advertised?

I'm not sure how much more clearly you can say "we have nothing to show you" when you make a CONCIOUS EFFORT TO SHOW US NOTHING.

Truth is truth... we are already playing 2k11, becoming familiar with it and reenacting all the gameplay we've seen in their innumerable vids.

Re and Steps, you want our support (understandably cuz biz is biz)... but there just isn't any substance behind your pleas that would encourage us to take Elite seriously.
AND THAT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO... but because WE HAVE NOTHING TO GO ON.

That latest commercial (which did not show the game AT ALL) is the status quo for your business model and the core base knows it... that's why these cryptic blogs aren't given a very warm reception.

WE'RE TRYING OUR HARDEST TO GIVE ELITE A CHANCE... but in all honesty, I think we may be trying harder to like your product than you are giving us reason to (and that's a big problem).
It cannot be any clearer in regards to what we want to see, so when you choose not to give it to us... well...
You honestly can't say WE didn't try.

Cmon... (and this just an educated assumption but) if Elite was "lights out fantastic", you'd be ramming gamplay footage down our throats...

2k does.

So you really can't say "you can't win either way"... sure you can!! SHOW US THE GAME.
THE REAL GAME... IN ACTION.
Better yet, let us play it.

Seriously, that can't be too much to ask.
(Because you're really running out of shot clock with the base.)

[Nephilim]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

LOL you can start complaining when the game is actually available and you are unable to try it first (but it's still better to borrow it, because the retail is never completely the same).

Silly complaints.

If you are impatient enough and you have to decide 3 weeks before, then you probably suffer in other aspects of life too. It always hurts us/you, impatience that is.

[Pared]

Re: New blog: Defensive Blog

Too little too late with the white flag blogs. Werent they promising a blog a week, and only 1 of those ever showed up weeks ago?
Meh, wheres more vids at and not the 1 minute cherry-picked vid of a defender getting pumped faked 15ft in the air and able to recover on the play? Guess I'll read it...

We get it.

From your signature, to your repeated posts how you're not even going to be trying the demo, your stance in this forum is getting old.

[Pared]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

Broken record much? I agree with the message but I'm sure this new dev team have got that message.

OS used to be a cool place back in the day and now I hardly want to read some of the dribble that is posted.

Props to ReAnim and others for still coming here to post whilst the masses wait as I could easily understand if they didn't. The hype is obviously here otherwise you wouldn't have so many crying for the release of a demo and if the other EA demo's are anything to go buy, it should be worth the wait as they are a full demo experience. Assume the Elite demo will be the same.

People need to chill. Stop regurgitating the same thing over and over. Constructive critism is a way to get a good message across and no one should be able to do that until the demo drops. I'd say it does more harm to devs visiting this site and communicating with OS than the other way around. I'm just as big a critic of EA. Those who know me will know that. Less info doesn't mean this is 07 all over again. There's some good conversation going on but most threads derail into the same thing. Ugh.

Bring on the demo. I'm more than happy to wait until it's ready. It's unlikely I'll be purchasing this year due to issues like injuries and this being the first year, etc, but still looking forward to waiting and testing the demo out.

This is a GREAT POST.

Everyone needs to take a step back. The developers understand people are frustrated there is no demo yet. There is nothing they can do so to keep going on and on about it is worthless.

[oOausarOo]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

If people were happy with the information, marketing and the way the game looked they would be giving positive feedback. We've been hearing for weeks how for this game you need to feel it to appreciate it. We haven't felt it yet.

[misterupgrade]

If people were happy with the information, marketing and the way the game looked they would be giving positive feedback. We've been hearing for weeks how for this game you need to feel it to appreciate it. We haven't felt it yet.

Precisely.

[noshun]

Re: New blog: Defensive Blog

We get it.

From your signature, to your repeated posts how you're not even going to be trying the demo, your stance in this forum is getting old.

If people were happy with the information, marketing and the way the game looked they would be giving positive feedback. We've been hearing for weeks how for this game you need to feel it to appreciate it. We haven't felt it yet.

To go off what Oausar said, lack of info on everything outside of controls isnt helping to make any informed decision, so until that happens my stance wouldnt change.

One company promised info every Friday, and the other company is just releasing lots of info every other day.