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  • Boilerbuzz
    D* B**rs!
    • Jul 2002
    • 5155

    #376
    Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

    Originally posted by carnalnirvana
    I personally feel their goal is to get elite to the status of fifa, halo cod and those types of games..
    You're smoking something illegal if you think ANY basketball game would have the reach of a 2 mass market genre games and a soccer game. That just will not happen. Not saying they shouldn't aspire to reach those heights, but don't count on it.

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    • rEAnimator
      NBA Elite Developer
      • Jun 2010
      • 666

      #377
      Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

      I
      Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
      Wow. You're a bigger man than I am because I would have blown a gasket.
      To be honest the only reason i cared was because i knew i'd have to answer to you guys about it. I didn't even notice it in the videos. It will not afect my enjoyment at all while playing. We should definitely fix it, but it's not the end of the world. For me at least.

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      • Boilerbuzz
        D* B**rs!
        • Jul 2002
        • 5155

        #378
        Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

        Originally posted by rEAnimator
        I

        To be honest the only reason i cared was because i knew i'd have to answer to you guys about it. I didn't even notice it in the videos. It will not afect my enjoyment at all while playing. We should definitely fix it, but it's not the end of the world. For me at least.
        Agreed. Doesn't affect gameplay, for sure. It's just such a visible change that it'll carry more weight than it really should. You know what I'm saying?

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        • rEAnimator
          NBA Elite Developer
          • Jun 2010
          • 666

          #379
          Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

          Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
          Agreed. Doesn't affect gameplay, for sure. It's just such a visible change that it'll carry more weight than it really should. You know what I'm saying?
          Totally know what you mean.

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          • yungflo
            MVP
            • Aug 2007
            • 2798

            #380
            Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

            hey , re are you going to be back in time for when the demo drops?
            #dairyfree

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            • carnalnirvana
              Pro
              • Jan 2007
              • 1987

              #381
              Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

              Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
              You're smoking something illegal if you think ANY basketball game would have the reach of a 2 mass market genre games and a soccer game. That just will not happen. Not saying they shouldn't aspire to reach those heights, but don't count on it.

              didnt mean number of sales , i meant that online competitive play makes up 90% of the use of the title, in other words if 10 people buy live 11 ..... 9 of them play it online exclusively and 1 plays offline franchise......
              NOW PLAYING: NBA Live, madden 11,12, battlefield v, F1 2020 and injustice 2 and COD:MW

              #18 greatest EVA....

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              • RedmanR
                MVP
                • Aug 2003
                • 2123

                #382
                Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                Originally posted by Tha_Kid
                So there are really just going to be 2 refs standing there instead of 3 moving? That's not a good workaround at all.
                Wow... it seems the closer this game gets to release more and more issues arise. There has always been so much going on with the entire Live series for so long and now. I could finish watching any of the video because they were ALL lacking tremendously and to think... there will only be 2 refs standing... NOT moving isn't a good sign and to think the referee movement was taken out at the last minute to fix a performance problem

                There's more than just a performance problem going on here, there's everything from player models, animations, gameplay, physics etc. missing. I don't understand whatever happen to... It's in the game when it's not!

                Elite hasn't hit demo status and we have members right here in our community that pay more attention to detail than some game developers themselves and to me that speaks volumes about where Elite is going or should be right now.

                Originally posted by rEAnimator
                I

                To be honest the only reason i cared was because i knew i'd have to answer to you guys about it. I didn't even notice it in the videos. It will not afect my enjoyment at all while playing. We should definitely fix it, but it's not the end of the world. For me at least.
                Not the end of the world for you is understandable reAnimator but for those gamers who make the choice to purchase Elite and right out the box start noticing things that should already be in game or... was in game but suddenly missing or... broken is the end of the world. Especially in this day and age when $65 buck starts becoming a little harder to come by if you know what I mean.

                I know I speak for others when I say... enjoyment matters very much when spending $65 bucks on a video game that still sports an old school NBA LIVE feel and look to it.


                Let's stop trying... to explain and let the demo do the talking or... for that matter why not allow Da_Czar to breakdown some team playbooks for us or something?!


                Everyone's waiting
                Where they DO that? ? ?

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                • Tha_Kid
                  All Star
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 6550

                  #383
                  Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                  Czar broke down playbooks for Live 10. 2K11 is matching what the competition already brought to the table as far as plays.

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                  • mlp111
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1293

                    #384
                    Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                    Originally posted by Tha_Kid
                    Czar broke down playbooks for Live 10. 2K11 is matching what the competition already brought to the table as far as plays.
                    Plays were good in live 10, in the videos in elite 11, plays seem weird, or at least from what I have seen, I want to see plays run in the physics system, cause the physic aren't visible I'm starting to believe, guess they have to be felt, plays seem weird in the videos

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                    • elprez98
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 4238

                      #385
                      Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                      This is the first time I watched this video.

                      To avoid making a long post of the things I don't like about this vid, all I'm going to say is I did buy NCAA and will buy FIFA from EA. Hopefully, they'll come to their senses and sell Jam separately.
                      Originally posted by My Wife
                      "The Celtics only won because they have a magical elf playing for their team...."

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                      • rEAnimator
                        NBA Elite Developer
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 666

                        #386
                        Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                        Originally posted by RedmanR
                        Elite hasn't hit demo status and we have members right here in our community that pay more attention to detail than some game developers themselves and to me that speaks volumes about where Elite is going or should be right now.
                        I respected what you were saying in your post until this paragraph.

                        It's replies like this that are the reason people are hesitant to allow devs to speak openly and honestly in public forums, and why the industry moves more towards "safe" and "pr approved" statements only.

                        I watched the video once, while out of town on vacation for the sole purpose of answering questions and having a context for the discussions on this forum.

                        Someone posted that the refs weren't moving which seemed odd to me since when I left for vacation they were. I went back and watched it a second time and it turned out to be true. Didn't notice it the first time.

                        How that speaks volumes to anything about mine or the rest of the dev teams competence to make a basketball game is beyond me.

                        Please stop trying to find reasons why Elite is going to suck and just wait for the demo.

                        I'll be more than happy to have a discussion about tangible issues in the product itself once you've tried it.

                        The sensationalist posts are getting tiresome.

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                        • DR Russell
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 362

                          #387
                          Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                          Originally posted by rEAnimator
                          I respected what you were saying in your post until this paragraph.

                          It's replies like this that are the reason people are hesitant to allow devs to speak openly and honestly in public forums, and why the industry moves more towards "safe" and "pr approved" statements only.

                          I watched the video once, while out of town on vacation for the sole purpose of answering questions and having a context for the discussions on this forum.

                          Someone posted that the refs weren't moving which seemed odd to me since when I left for vacation they were. I went back and watched it a second time and it turned out to be true. Didn't notice it the first time.

                          How that speaks volumes to anything about mine or the rest of the dev teams competence to make a basketball game is beyond me.

                          Please stop trying to find reasons why Elite is going to suck and just wait for the demo.

                          I'll be more than happy to have a discussion about tangible issues in the product itself once you've tried it.

                          The sensationalist posts are getting tiresome.
                          Yes they are!

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                          • 23
                            yellow
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 66563

                            #388
                            Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                            Originally posted by rEAnimator

                            How that speaks volumes to anything about mine or the rest of the dev teams competence to make a basketball game is beyond me.

                            Okay, this is where the line is drawn for the posters. Its enough commenting on how competent the guys are, or how they arent working hard, or if you have some type of idea about their job when you dont. Its those kinds of statements that will be met with a ban.





                            Originally posted by rEAnimator
                            I'll be more than happy to have a discussion about tangible issues in the product itself once you've tried it.

                            The sensationalist posts are getting tiresome.

                            With this statement, its like a reminder of why the devs are here in the first place... to interact with the community, not to be a personal bashing tool for those of us who feel as though they are punching bags or whatever.

                            Its easy enough to disagree with some decisions, explain your point of disagreement,and move on..

                            I guess in the fray the idea that its an interaction can get lost but please dont forget the devs are VIPs here and people with families and jobs like many of us
                            Last edited by 23; 09-19-2010, 10:53 PM.

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                            • Boilerbuzz
                              D* B**rs!
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5155

                              #389
                              Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                              Originally posted by 23

                              I guess in the fray the idea that its an interaction can get lost but please dont forget the devs are VIPs here and people with families and jobs like many of us
                              Devs are people too. They have feelings. They love games like the rest of us. They have strengths and weaknesses like we do. They are not perfect and they certainly don't have to agree with everything you think they should.

                              reAnimator, please don't let these kinds of posts get to you. I can tell that some posts can come off quite harsh on a personal level. Just realize that sometimes, it's hard to really communicate fully through forums. Thanks for everything, man.

                              With that said, I think it would be an injustice to chastise someone too much for trying to express themselves. Yes, I'm sure he used the wrong words and got a little personal, but I would bet he expressed a lot of emotions that quite a few people are feeling, but dare not say. It would be lying if people didn't admit that some of the decisions made for the series do not instill long term confidence. But, again, showing everyone the same respect they would expect to be given themselves is a good rule of thumb here.
                              Last edited by Boilerbuzz; 09-19-2010, 11:19 PM.

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                              • rEAnimator
                                NBA Elite Developer
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 666

                                #390
                                Re: NBA Elite 11 OS Exclusive Video: Miami Heat @ Orlando Magic

                                Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
                                Devs are people too. They have feelings. They love games like the rest of us. They have strengths and weaknesses like we do. They are not perfect and they certainly don't have to agree with everything you think they should.

                                reAnimator, please don't let these kinds of posts get to you. I can tell that some posts can come off quite harsh on a personal level. Just realize that sometimes, it's hard to really communicate fully through forums. Thanks for everything, man.

                                With that said, I think it would be an injustice to chastise someone too much for trying to express themselves. Yes, I'm sure he used the wrong words and got a little personal, but I would bet he expressed a lot of emotions that quite a few people are feeling, but dare not say. It would be lying if people didn't admit that some of the decisions made for the series do not instill long term confidence. But, again, showing everyone the same respect they would expect to be given themselves is a good rule of thumb here.
                                I definitely hear what you're saying.

                                I've observed quite a bit in my short time on the forums.

                                There are definitely emotions involved as you said.

                                There are people who feel betrayed, and I respect where those people are coming from and hope to mend those wounds over time.

                                There are people who feel uneasy about the new direction, and I can certainly appreciate the concern there and hope we can build trust moving forward.

                                But there are also people who are taking advantage of those emotions to take cheap shots and bury the positives.

                                I also know there are people who agree with our direction and are excited by what we're doing. And often they are bullied by that last group of people into silence. I want to see that stop, while still respecting the needs of the people who fall into the first two categories.

                                Feel free to correct me if my interpretation is wrong. It very well could be.

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