Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

[lnin0]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

Forza 3 using adjusted (maybe 90°) cockpit view. Default is much closer to GT5.

Both in-car views are put to shame by NFS Shift, DiRT and GRID.

Forza colors look under saturated while GT5s over saturated.

Forza has a green suggested line; GT5 has a blue one.

Both titles seem to feature very non-bumpy tracks.

Based on how he weaves through traffic GT5 is set to easy/no sim/no damage?

One works on the 360; one on the PS3.

In the end is there really much difference. Two clinical sim engines trapped in a collect-a-car, hot-lap, arcade-ladder game with AI set to sleep walk. Sure, one may have night and rain and one may have a big MS Paint swap shop but both lack a real race pedigree.

[CarolinaBlue704]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

Well, to me there are few differences. GTs color looks fake, trees bright green, etc. But the huge difference is the FORZA actually gets released and I have been playing it for a year now! Forza 4 will be here before gt is.

But you must admit it is beyond absurd what they have put us through. I went out and bought a g25 wheel for the basis alone of playing GT, and while I have had fun with the other racing ames, and soon f1, GT keeps on getting delayed. I have the ps3 for 2 games, the show and GT, but now all i have is the show as GT Prologues fun lasted a week or so. I cant wait for GT, and the game does look great, but the wait has diminished my anticipation to a degree im no longer counting on the upcoming release. And when he said they have already begun working on GT6 it blew my mind, as we are still a long time from gt 5 coming out. Forza has been every inch as good as GT and with 1/6th the wait time.

What are you talking about? GT5 comes out November, 2nd...

As for the people who are talking about the long development time, just look at all the features that will be in GT5. When GT5 comes it will be one of the most feature-rich games on the market. Yeah, it has been frustrating at times waiting on GT5. But come November, 2nd, I'm confident the wait will have been worth it.

Also, you have to realize that Gran Turismo is Sony's highest selling franchise of all-time (over 55 million copies sold). GT5:Prologue sold over 4 million copies alone....And it had 5 tracks & 70 cars. Meaning GT5 is VERY important to Sony. So they want the game done right. GT5 in its current state would not be possible without a long development cycle.

As for the video, I think it's ridiculous. Wait 'til November to make a comparison between the two games.

[DickDalewood]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

We've all seen the high def pics of what this game will look like when it's on our TVs. I can't believe this is being argued based on a ****ty youtube video, lol.

[forensicd]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

What are you talking about? GT5 comes out November, 2nd...

Kazunori Yamauchi has already stated this is not a definite release date. But thats beside the point. The point of this discussion, and I got off track, was GT vs Forza. Forza has proven its every bit as capable as GT, and the racing mechanics have been better then GT, maybe not driving mechanics, but racing. Car collecting is much better in GT, but most prefer racing vs collecting. All I can compare is GT Prol., which was lifeless, so we can only make comparisons when GT comes out. A youtube video is too hard to tell.

[NINJAK2]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

Forza 3 using adjusted (maybe 90°) cockpit view. Default is much closer to GT5.

Both in-car views are put to shame by NFS Shift, DiRT and GRID.

Forza colors look under saturated while GT5s over saturated.

Forza has a green suggested line; GT5 has a blue one.

Both titles seem to feature very non-bumpy tracks.

Based on how he weaves through traffic GT5 is set to easy/no sim/no damage?

One works on the 360; one on the PS3.

In the end is there really much difference. Two clinical sim engines trapped in a collect-a-car, hot-lap, arcade-ladder game with AI set to sleep walk. Sure, one may have night and rain and one may have a big MS Paint swap shop but both lack a real race pedigree.

Got to agree with the bold strongly. I may even put pgr3/4 cockpits ahead of both as well.

[Behindshadows]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

Okay after today, I realized that none of the videos are being honest with people...

If you have a local Best Buy in your area...go play the demo....that's all I got to say about it.....So disappointed....

Just go play the actual demo...because screenshots and mocked up videos of how this game looks during actual gameplay are just misleading.

[randombrother]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

Okay after today, I realized that none of the videos are being honest with people...

If you have a local Best Buy in your area...go play the demo....that's all I got to say about it.....So disappointed....

Just go play the actual demo...because screenshots and mocked up videos of how this game looks during actual gameplay are just misleading.

Man you can't just leave it to that. You gotta lay it out there for the people. What's going on with the game?

[Flawless]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

So, it doesn't look as good as the super-sampled PR shots or trailers outside of replays and photo mode? While GT has been one of the worst offenders the games still look really great. This isn't exclusive to the series either, you see it a lot, especially this generation with shots sporting AA levels that are well beyond the capabilities of the consoles.

[Behindshadows]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

Man you can't just leave it to that. You gotta lay it out there for the people. What's going on with the game?

It's just not as it appears! I even went into the settings of the console just to make sure the demo machine wasn't downgrading the visuals and they are set right. Game just doesn't look anything like the mock ups. They must have taken all those screens from a souped up developer PC.

Because once it made it to the console it's downgraded quite remarkably. It doesn't look any better than Forza and the environments look like 2D polygons mixed with 3D car models. Car details are remarkable, and shine and reflect somewhat, but the physics in them are somewhat broken.

Guys just go to a Best Buy and hit up the demo!!! I don't want to say much more without knocking the game. I'm still buying regardless, because I own all GT games, even that terrible Prologue version.

[randombrother]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

It's just not as it appears! I even went into the settings of the console just to make sure the demo machine wasn't downgrading the visuals and they are set right. Game just doesn't look anything like the mock ups. They must have taken all those screens from a souped up developer PC.

Because once it made it to the console it's downgraded quite remarkably. It doesn't look any better than Forza and the environments look like 2D polygons mixed with 3D car models. Car details are remarkable, and shine and reflect somewhat, but the physics in them are somewhat broken.

Guys just go to a Best Buy and hit up the demo!!! I don't want to say much more without knocking the game. I'm still buying regardless, because I own all GT games, even that terrible Prologue version.

Thanks for hitting me up with the real. See they had my head souped up thinking this was going to be the sickest racing game visually and now I hear otherwise. I'm glad to be dealt this blow of knowledge early instead of popping it in my PS3 and sitting there saying WTF. Matter of fact I'll be hitting up a Best Buy tomorrow. I gotta take something back and take wife furniture shopping (YA! that will be fun ) so I'm going to check that demo out myself. This game keeps losing more and more luster as info comes out.

[Flawless]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

Still looks impressive. Here's in-game screens of GT5 (no touch ups). Keep in mind, since these are direct-feed things like aliasing and an aggressive LOD will look worse than in motion.

[burnwood]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

Wow! I'm not impressed anymore. Isn't this supposed to be a flagship title showing off the abilities of the PS3?

All those jaggies and blurry patches! Don't even bother looking at how damage is modeled. It's embarrasing.

From the screenshots above GT5 looks no better than FM3 (worse IMO). It reminds me of the days when I was PC gaming...ridiculous visuals on the back of the box, but since my rig was 2 generations behind I get dumbed down graphics. Well, at least I can save my money and not buy a PS3.

[Behindshadows]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

Yeah Forza 3 is definitely more impressive and the environments have so much more detail...on FM3!

[Flawless]

Re: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza Motorsport 3 Video: Circuit de la Sarthe

Camino Viejo is arguably the best looking environment in Forza 3, but most of others are rather dull looking. I still think GT5 is a cut above in terms lighting and car shaders. Also, it has weather and is rendering twice the number of cars on the track.